keithredpath Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 We are looking to emigrate to Australia. Would it be worth our time to take out a long stay visitors visa then while we are out there look for jobs. Then if we get one, we can apply for anoher type of visa which will allow us to work and stay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engaus Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Apart from it being in breach if your visa conditions - you will be hard pressed to find a single employer that would give you a job when you have no right to work.....getting a skilled work visa isn't a quick process so I wouldn't think they would wait around for you to apply and be granted one - even if they entertained te idea of employing you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 We are looking to emigrate to Australia. Would it be worth our time to take out a long stay visitors visa then while we are out there look for jobs. Then if we get one, we can apply for anoher type of visa which will allow us to work and stay? This is what I call the last resort type of approach. In that it is a terrible idea unless you have exhausted all other options. What do you know about visas so far? Are your occupations on the skilled lists? Looking for a job before visa usually results in a temporary visa situation, rather than migration too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithredpath Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 We are 60 years old and are therefore subject to age discrimination so we are searching for an affordable way in to be with my daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 We are 60 years old and are therefore subject to age discrimination so we are searching for an affordable way in to be with my daughter. I am afraid your plan seems even more unlikely now, as age discrimination is pretty bad when it comes to looking for jobs and there is 6.5% unemployment here too. There is almost certainly not a path to Australia for you other than the parent visa, you maybe need to think about ways to adjust to the choice your daughter has made. There is a five year parent tourist visa now that lets you stay in Australia for 12 of every 18 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geordie joe Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 To be honest your options are really limited given your age. You could look at a contributory parent visa which is very expensive around £50,000 for a couple, there are also rules relating to this such as half your children must be permanent resident in Australia and have been settled there for 2 years. Another option which is very difficult is obtaining a sponsorship on a 457 visa depending on your occupation, and after 4 years you can look to apply for permanent resident providing you have remained in the same occupation and earned above a certain level for each of the 4 years which I believe is circa $130,000 per annum. You may want to consult with a registered migration agent who will be able to go through all your options, there are one or two who post on this site and there have been some excellent feedback for these individuals. I know how frustrating this is having been through it and in the end reluctantly applying for the contributory parent visa Good luck in your endeavours. joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 To be honest your options are really limited given your age. You could look at a contributory parent visa which is very expensive around £50,000 for a couple, there are also rules relating to this such as half your children must be permanent resident in Australia and have been settled there for 2 years. Another option which is very difficult is obtaining a sponsorship on a 457 visa depending on your occupation, and after 4 years you can look to apply for permanent resident providing you have remained in the same occupation and earned above a certain level for each of the 4 years which I believe is circa $130,000 per annum. You may want to consult with a registered migration agent who will be able to go through all your options, there are one or two who post on this site and there have been some excellent feedback for these individuals. I know how frustrating this is having been through it and in the end reluctantly applying for the contributory parent visa Good luck in your endeavours. joe In all honesty, I think you have covered the options. They are the parent visa or the 457 for four years followed by a permanent visa. But a long shot, who is going to sponsor a 64 year old for a permanent employer sponsored visa? I note the wife is a nurse from another thread, so the 457 is an outside chance and would at least get them more or less to retirement. After that, I think it is long holidays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sustain Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 We are 60 years old and are therefore subject to age discrimination so we are searching for an affordable way in to be with my daughter. Do you need to work in Australia? What about coming as a visitor (6 months) and using NZ as a weekend getaway or Singapore (as your choosing Perth) to go out of the country to establish another 6 month time period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 We are 60 years old and are therefore subject to age discrimination so we are searching for an affordable way in to be with my daughter. I know the age discrimination seems harsh, but the fact is that if you arrive at 60, the Australian public health system will have to support you through your eventual old age and death - a very expensive time of life medically. Unlike Australians who've paid 40+ years of tax in their working lives to pay for that, you'll contribute only 5 or 10. So can you see how that's a burden on the taxpayer and that's why the Australian government won't allow it? That's why the contributory parent visas are so expensive, because those fees are to make up for that missing tax. Having said all that, there was someone on these forums recently who was planning to try a workaround. She was planning to come to Australia on a visitor's visa then apply for a parent visa (not the contributory one) after she arrived. The theory was that she would then be put on a bridging visa, which would allow her to stay until the parent visa was granted (which can take up to 30 years). There are several catches with this scenario. First, if your tourist visa has a "no further stay" condition then you will have to leave anyway. Second, if immigration guesses your intention when you arrive, they'll put you straight back on the next plane. Thirdly, there may be restrictions on what you can do on the bridging visa and you would need to check what they would be (e.g. you may not be able to work, or you may not be able to access benefits or non-emergency medical care). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramot Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I know the age discrimination seems harsh, but the fact is that if you arrive at 60, the Australian public health system will have to support you through your eventual old age and death - a very expensive time of life medically. Unlike Australians who've paid 40+ years of tax in their working lives to pay for that, you'll contribute only 5 or 10. So can you see how that's a burden on the taxpayer and that's why the Australian government won't allow it? Thirdly, there may be restrictions on what you can do on the bridging visa and you would need to check what they would be (e.g. you may not be able to work, or you may not be able to access benefits or non-emergency medical care). If you are a UK citizen I question that you might not be allowed access to non-emergency medical care, because there are reciprocal health agreements. I can only quote my daughter, first on WHV, then 457, then bridging visa for months, while waiting for partner visa with no work rights till they were lifted. She has never been refused any health care. She is epileptic, and has had fantastic back up, much better than UK, she had a bad burn after a fit, and has had totally free lazer treatment ongoing for 18 months with the top burns specialist in Sydney, also discovered while here that she has heomochromotosis, picked up instantly here but it was never picked up in UK, and all her treatment is free. So I would class all of these as non emergency. My son was on a bridging visa for 31/2 years and again had no problems accessing medical care. I know there have apparently been the occasional story that people have been refused treatment, but I have no knowledge of whether they were on bridging visas or on holiday here. Obviously I am basing my comments on being on a bridging visa, with UK recipricol, have no idea how much reciprocal you are entitled to if on holiday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 If you are a UK citizen I question that you might not be allowed access to non-emergency medical care... I honestly have no idea what the restrictions would be on a bridging visa, just saying they should check to make sure if there are any and if so, what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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