mcgyver Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Hello All, I am quite confused and its seems those who are getting their skills assessed by ACS are going through a paradox due to the fact that there are some new rules set out for ACS to inforce. According to the new rules, the first 2 years of my ICT related experience get deducted from the total number of ICT experience I have acquired in my professional career so far, since my degree was an ICT Major. As a result, I am deemed as a "skilled" professional with 6.5 years, instead of 8.5 years. So, I should have got 10 points for my experience. But I have filled out the EOI pages and after submitting the total number of points rewarded are 15, instead of 10! Is it a glitch in the system? Does DIAC have yet to upgrade the EOI tool? Or is it a time bomb waiting to explode in the form of a rejection that may result in later on when a Case Officer says that my claimed points are more than what I deserve? But, I have done nothing but simply answered questions listed by the EOI tool. The tool has asked me to state the start-date and end-date of each of my jobs. Based on the answers, it calculates my ponits for 8.5 years! Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozee Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I don't think it's a glitch, you just have to fill in only "skilled" experience. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Hello All, I am quite confused and its seems those who are getting their skills assessed by ACS are going through a paradox due to the fact that there are some new rules set out for ACS to inforce. According to the new rules, the first 2 years of my ICT related experience get deducted from the total number of ICT experience I have acquired in my professional career so far, since my degree was an ICT Major. As a result, I am deemed as a "skilled" professional with 6.5 years, instead of 8.5 years. So, I should have got 10 points for my experience. But I have filled out the EOI pages and after submitting the total number of points rewarded are 15, instead of 10! Is it a glitch in the system? Does DIAC have yet to upgrade the EOI tool? Or is it a time bomb waiting to explode in the form of a rejection that may result in later on when a Case Officer says that my claimed points are more than what I deserve? But, I have done nothing but simply answered questions listed by the EOI tool. The tool has asked me to state the start-date and end-date of each of my jobs. Based on the answers, it calculates my ponits for 8.5 years! Why? Just put in the dates you wish to claim for, the system doesn't know what ACS have decided is skilled and which is not does it. Best to claim as little work experience as you can get away with to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgyver Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 Hi. Thanks to both for replies. I can update EOI and modify the start date of my first job so that it coincides with the date as of which ACS considered me "skilled". I can do that. But, my physical reference letter from the first job (and therefore also the photocopy of it) still hold the "original" start date. Won't a CO notice it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitrii Kovtunov Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Hi mcgyver! What did you know about your situation? I am in the same. Please, let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linhtrung Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Appreciate if someone could advise...many thanks all of my studies were from oversea. does it mean at least ACS will exclude 2 years of experience of my exp ? I will have 8 year exp on Sept...if ACS exclude 2 years of experience of my exp, I would rather do the skill assessment now as anyway I cant gain more point after Sept.... Again thanks for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Those who mare not 100% sure what to claim for work experience or how to claim it stand the risk of forfeiting their visa application charge if they get it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usman Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Hello All, I have just realized that ACS deduct 2 Years work experience... I have received an invitation based on my claims in EOI... I claimed 3 years work experience (5 points) in EOI... But now I have realized that ACS deducts 2 Years which makes my work experience to 1 year (0 points)... Now, the question is, I received invitation on 65 points. If the case officer deducts 5 points of experience i will still have 60 points. Will I still be able to get VISA or the case officer will refuse visa... As we all know there is an inconstancy in DIAC and ACS... As i filled form the EOI tool automatically generated 5 points for my experience instead of 0 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozee Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 As far as I know (from other cases) visa will be refused. Check with DIAC, just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usman Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 EOI form says to fill "employment dates". EOI tool has calculated points emplyoment point... I believe DIAC will consider this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozee Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Employment dates for "skilled employment". Better to check with DIAC directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Grey Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Hello All, I have just realized that ACS deduct 2 Years work experience... I have received an invitation based on my claims in EOI... I claimed 3 years work experience (5 points) in EOI... But now I have realized that ACS deducts 2 Years which makes my work experience to 1 year (0 points)... Now, the question is, I received invitation on 65 points. If the case officer deducts 5 points of experience i will still have 60 points. Will I still be able to get VISA or the case officer will refuse visa... As we all know there is an inconstancy in DIAC and ACS... As i filled form the EOI tool automatically generated 5 points for my experience instead of 0 points. This has been discussed recently in another thread. A new policy has been introduced that can take into account circumstances where a genuine mistake has been made as long as the applicant would have originally received an invitation at the lower score. So for example if you were invited on July 1st at 65 points and the invitation score for that or subsequent rounds was 60 points, then it's possible that they will ask permission to correct your invitation score and assess you at 60 points. This should not be relied on though as the regulations still quite clearly state that the assessed score must not be lower than the invited score, so it's a contradictory situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaggieMay24 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 You should fill in the employment dates based on what you're claiming. If ACS deducts 2 years of experience, you should show your employment dates as 2 years from your start date to have the points calculate correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usman Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Thank you for taking out time and replying. Since I have already lodged application and submitted visa fee $3528, I cannot update my EOI... Having said that, DIAC tolerates honest mistakes even if it results in over-claim. But it is only on Case-officer's discretion grant or refuse a visa... DIAC tolerates an honest mistake only IF your new score / actual score (lesser score) is equal or greater to the EOI scores in subsequent rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umair Rafiq Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I have a valid skills & work experience assessment of 5 years (Electrical Engineer). So I am standing at 55 points. Can you guys please tell me that Can I claim 05 points for education of my spouse (She holds a 04 year Bachelors degree in computers and 2 years experience). My plan is to submit EOI with her (if i get her 05 points).? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozee Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 You can claim points for your spouse only if she also did skill assessment and het job is on SOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umair Rafiq Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 She need to apply through ACS ? With 2 years experience and 04 years degree can I clam her 5 points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekha Rajendran Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Hi, I am planning to get assessed with the acs but I need to find whether am eligible to apply. Kindly someone help me on this. I have gone through the acs site but have got few clarifications. I have done my bachelor's in information technology for full time 4 years in india. I have worked in IT field as system engineer for four years in TCS, India. Mainframe and cognoscenti are the technologies I have worked on. My age is 25. I have not appeared for ielts but have done my toefl of which I scored 102 out of 120. Is toefl enough or should I appear for ielts again? Is Mainframe considered by acs. Where can I assess to confirm whether I have the required points to apply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usman Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I have a valid skills & work experience assessment of 5 years (Electrical Engineer). So I am standing at 55 points. Can you guys please tell me that Can I claim 05 points for education of my spouse (She holds a 04 year Bachelors degree in computers and 2 years experience). My plan is to submit EOI with her (if i get her 05 points).? Yes, she will apply through ACS... She fulfils the threshold criteria which is 4 years degree in Computer science and minimum 2 years experience to get a skill assessment as "suitable" ... Please make sure your spouse occupation is on SOL (skill occupation list), otherwise her assessment outcome will not be "suitable". Once she gets "suitable" assessment. You can claim 5 points... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usman Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Hi, I am planning to get assessed with the acs but I need to find whether am eligible to apply. Kindly someone help me on this. I have gone through the acs site but have got few clarifications. I have done my bachelor's in information technology for full time 4 years in india. I have worked in IT field as system engineer for four years in TCS, India. Mainframe and cognoscenti are the technologies I have worked on. My age is 25. I have not appeared for ielts but have done my toefl of which I scored 102 out of 120. Is toefl enough or should I appear for ielts again? Is Mainframe considered by acs. Where can I assess to confirm whether I have the required points to apply First of all Rekha you have to choose occupation from SOL (skilled occupation list) that best fits your current Job role. Secondly as per my knowledge TOEFL is not recognised by ACS/DIAC. So it is compulsory to appear in IELTS and score minimum of 6 points in each section (reading, listening, writing and speaking). If you don't score minimum of 6 points in each section you will not be eligible to apply even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozmaniac Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 First of all Rekha you have to choose occupation from SOL (skilled occupation list) that best fits your current Job role.Secondly as per my knowledge TOEFL is not recognised by ACS/DIAC. So it is compulsory to appear in IELTS and score minimum of 6 points in each section (reading, listening, writing and speaking). If you don't score minimum of 6 points in each section you will not be eligible to apply even. From November, TOEFL will be accepted as well as IELTS. Until then though, only IELTS (and OET for some occupations) is acceptable. http://www.immi.gov.au/News/Pages/aelt.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umair Rafiq Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Can you please provide me more information on this. Which documents she need to send/upload.Who can attest her documents (In mu case, notary public did it). What is the fees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usman Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Can you please provide me more information on this. Which documents she need to send/upload.Who can attest her documents (In mu case, notary public did it). What is the fees? http://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/17636/Document-Checklist.pdf https://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/7319/Skills-Assessment-Guidelines-for-Applicants.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abh Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Hi Usman, I am in the same boat as you , recieved invitation but EOI points are higher than what ACS gave, did you get any updates on this yet , did you get your visa ?Please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterc1983 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 I only claimed exactly what the ACS told me they considered skilled. Since I was going to be sending the ACS assessment as evidence at some stage, I presumed it would be cross-referenced to verify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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