Chortlepuss Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 If you can massage your CV to look like a BA this may be a good approach. I am a change manager, and project manager as well as a BA. Even where there are jobs, if it's anything like Brisbane there will be hundreds of applicants for each one. Project Manager roles are thin on the ground in areas where there is very little project start up work (In Brisbane it is dead). Every other person's a change manager in Brisbane and recruiters rarely have the skill to see that they're making stuff up! BA's tend to fare a little better with legacy work, enhancements, small system implementations etc.. Do not be worried about changing previous job titles from PM to BA - Australians do this all the time I have finally got a short contract as a BA and I was way overqualified for the role - I just struck lucky as someone (an experienced recruiter for a change) saw my experience as a bonus, and loved it that I'd had some PM roles as well. If you can target more technical roles where the competition is less, that may be in your favour too. I too have applied for jobs I could do standing on my head (Project Officer) and got no-where - Mostly clients just can't handle people with what they think has 'too much experience' Try not to get too despondent - as I said earlier it's a shocking time to be searching for work, play on your strengths, tailor each CV to match the job description even if you have to bend the truth, be really explicit with skills as there are some recruiters with very low levels of understanding - don't assume they understand - and best of luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afzal630 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Is there same problems with mechanical engineer in regional WA? I am a mechanical engineer will be moving to regional WA soon on visa 475. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yilmazke Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Is there same problems with mechanical engineer in regional WA? I am a mechanical engineer will be moving to regional WA soon on visa 475. I don't think the issue is about the profession since I met some people with different professions in the regional area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I would like to share only one of rejection letters below. I have a collection of those. Here in this letter PC Scheduler means Project Coordinator/Scheduler. I applied for the job vacancy and I got advise with rejection. During our time in WA for 4 months, I have always advises and rejections from employers and recruiters as well. "HI *****, I just thought I would send you a short email to let you know that for the PC Scheduler role we will not be able to hire you. Your skills are more directed at IT Project Management or Business Analyst Roles. I checked the 475 Visa and it states that you need to BOTH live and work in a regional area. I checked your postcode and your address in ****** is definitely in a regional area but our place of work is in *********** in Perth which is not in a regional area. It sounds like your visa has been created to attract skilled people to regional (country) areas in Australia as it is always a challenge to attract people to roles outside the city areas. It sounds like your skill set and your Visa location requirement will make it a challenge for you to get the role you wish for as traditionally IT Project Manager roles are city based. With that in mind may I suggest you do one of the following things: (but this is only me personal advice in trying to help you get a good job long term). Either try and get a job in a Bank local to where you are in Mandurah. I used to work in Bankwest. I would try to get a job as anything in the retail store – eg. Teller, home Loan Specialist,etc. and although it would be a step down compared to your current experience you could work there for 1 year (as your visa states). Once you have store experience then you could still live in Mandurah and see if you can transfer to Bankwest Head Office in Perth City (Your visa states 2 years living in a regional living and only 1 year working there) They have a large IT Project Management area and it would be very beneficial getting Bankwest store/branch experience as there are a lot of projects that require an understanding of how the retail stores/braches work. If you are to apply for a role in a store I would consider changing your entire resume. I would focus on making it a more customer service type resume showing how you have been able to provide customer facing experience and people skills as well as confidence in handling cash,etc. I know this may feel like a back step but if you want to keep around Perth, then this is the only real way I can see your visa working. The other option would be to move to a larger regional country town like Albany, Geraldton, Busselton or Bunbury. The towns are big enough to have some type of IT Project Management positions for you... but you would probably need to get a job there and then move there (if you have a family that cannot move easily.) If I were you though with your skill set I would get a job at a bank doing anything and then work your way up and focus on Bankwest as they are the only bank in WA that has a large WA-based IT area – all the other banks have their head offices over eastern states and therefore not many IT jobs. I hope this information is of help to you and wish you all the best in finding a job in Perth. Regards," It is very nice of them to give you such detailed feedback. But just be aware of the comment in red, you must live and work in a regional area for the duration of your 475 visa. The 2 years living and 1 year working relates only to the qualification criteria for the permanent stage visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparker1982 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Hi Yilmazve We have just had our 186 visa granted which is the Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme, where the employer sponsors you. If you are looking to stay in WA I would suggest looking North around the Geraldton Area, as there are plans afoot for a new data and technology centre, and speaking to a number of colleagues in the area, there is a real issue of getting skilled IT workers in this area. Geraldton and the Mid West Region are also one of the first to gain access to the National broadband Network, and they sponsor a high number of staff. Might be worth a look. Don't lose faith and keep the dream alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Londoner786 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 HI Yilmazve, I am suprised that an I.T professional can't get a job in Perth WA? There are alot of companies that are looking for I.T staff espeically in Oil and Gas , Mining. Send me a PM with his details and I might be able to have a look at what the issue is with his C.V or approach or whats in his C.V etc . Can't promise anything but hey I am willing to help where I can. Why not one day someone will help me when I need it , thats how it works in life. Do good get good, do great get greater back. regards Fas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 HI Yilmazve, I am suprised that an I.T professional can't get a job in Perth WA? There are alot of companies that are looking for I.T staff espeically in Oil and Gas , Mining. Send me a PM with his details and I might be able to have a look at what the issue is with his C.V or approach or whats in his C.V etc . Can't promise anything but hey I am willing to help where I can. Why not one day someone will help me when I need it , thats how it works in life. Do good get good, do great get greater back. regards Fas Yilmazve is not looking for work in Perth. Have you read the thread.. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I have read the post. Since when did Mandurah become 'regional' Mandurah is the second largest urban conurbation in Western Australia. It's most assuredly not regional. Besides, there's *loads* of I.T. management jobs going up North. I asked what skillset he has - perhaps it isn't what is required in which case he is stuffed, but he should have researched that before coming. As for moving to Bunbury to find a PM job??? That makes no sense whatsoever. By the way I checked the jobs boards for PM positions before writing - has he looked at employment with the State? Strangely enough Mandurah is classed as regional for the purpose of the visa, even though it's a decent size place. Jobs in IT would be few though I would have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDAMUMFORD Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 It is very nice of them to give you such detailed feedback. But just be aware of the comment in red, you must live and work in a regional area for the duration of your 475 visa. The 2 years living and 1 year working relates only to the qualification criteria for the permanent stage visa. Sorry Rupert, can you explain what you mean? My understanding in our case is that once we have worked for 1 year regionally & lived for 2 years regionally we will have met the criteria to apply for the Permanent Visa. Do you see this differently?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyNook Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Sorry Rupert, can you explain what you mean? My understanding in our case is that once we have worked for 1 year regionally & lived for 2 years regionally we will have met the criteria to apply for the Permanent Visa. Do you see this differently?? The person writing the feedback letter to the OP seemed to think that the OP could work anywhere after they'd worked regionally for one year. That's not true. The minimum time you need to work regionally is one year. The remaining year you can work regionally or not work at all. You can't work non-regionally in that other year. Rupert was just clarifying that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milliem Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 The person writing the feedback letter to the OP seemed to think that the OP could work anywhere after they'd worked regionally for one year. That's not true. The minimum time you need to work regionally is one year. The remaining year you can work regionally or not work at all. You can't work non-regionally in that other year. Rupert was just clarifying that point. You can also work two part time jobs to make up full time hours, or you can work less than 35 hours and work until you have accumulated the equivalent of one year full time. Millie x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yilmazve Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 Thank you everyone for your explanations and comments. I believe this thread is now very informative thanks to contributions from many people. I wish you all Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. We are up to very important changes we will let you know once things are clear.., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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