Guest Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Always good to get a different perspective - I was in WA and primarily worked in state government, projects were very much driven by funding and the financial year. About 50% of employment in WA is in state government so it might well be in the private sector in Sydney is quite different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AltyMatt Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Regarding contracting rates, they don't seem to be much higher than the equivalent perm salary, whereas when I worked in London there was a significant mark up when contracting. I'm looking to start contracting in Sydney and the rates aren't that impressive. I'm wondering if that is just due to a tight job market & oversupply of candidates or whether this is always the case here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squarepusher Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Regarding contracting rates, they don't seem to be much higher than the equivalent perm salary, whereas when I worked in London there was a significant mark up when contracting.I'm looking to start contracting in Sydney and the rates aren't that impressive. I'm wondering if that is just due to a tight job market & oversupply of candidates or whether this is always the case here. You're correct the rates are low, its mainly due to oversupply. The contract rates here in Sydney are not much better than permanent rates, once you factor in Super, Holiday and Sick , then there is no real incentive to contract. Occasionally good rates are paid for extremely scarce skills, but this is rare and much lower than the UK rate. If you're coming here expecting UK rates, i'm afraid you'll be very disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krishmeu Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Guys, I have been tying to connect with Australian IT recruiters and consulting companies and unfortunately I have not been very successful in that. Currently I am in US and plan to move to Australia in the coming months. I wanted to make some connections and know about up coming openings in my field. Someone told me that companies and recruiters will not care when inquiries and made from offshore. Anyone with some advice or similar experience ? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krishmeu Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Similar situation here, Currently I am in US and plan to move to Australia in the coming months. I have been tying to connect with Australian IT recruiters and consulting companies and unfortunately I have not been very successful in that. I wanted to make some connections and know about up coming openings in my field ( DW/BI ). Someone told me that companies and recruiters will not care when inquiries and made from offshore. Anyone with some advice or similar experience ? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bromney Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I'm a PM and didn't think the rates were great in Sydney. However I've just landed 2 jobs in the space of a week with both offering the same rate I was getting in the UK, even with the AUD being almost 2:1 against the GBP. A lot depends on the agent as I think they end up taking a bigger share so you end up being paid less. Generally though London does offer better rates but then it is a bigger market with a lot more opportunities, especially in the finance sector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bromney Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Similar situation here, Currently I am in US and plan to move to Australia in the coming months. I have been tying to connect with Australian IT recruiters and consulting companies and unfortunately I have not been very successful in that. I wanted to make some connections and know about up coming openings in my field ( DW/BI ). Someone told me that companies and recruiters will not care when inquiries and made from offshore. Anyone with some advice or similar experience ? Thank you Most companies and agencies are not interested unless you are already in the country and you have working rights. There are a lot of candidates available locally so they only consider off-shore people where they require a niche skill-set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalyst2012 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 (edited) Hi All - I moved to WA in 2012 to honour the state sponsorship obligation, and I pretty much had to start from the scratch despite having about 3 years of experience in Software Testing and about a couple years worth of IT Support experience. I did Service Desk for a year and then moved into a Level 2/3 Apps support role with a local software company. However, I am seriously thinking of moving to Melbourne just to be closer to my family, and because Perth is not where I would see myself settling down. I have applied to heaps of roles in Melbourne(Service desk/Desktop Support/Applications Support/Sys Admin etc) and have not received a single response. Is moving to Melbourne without a job the only option at this stage, because surely recruiters wouldn't bother contacting interstate candidates given the significantly higher number of people already available in the Melbourne IT market? I am single with no commitments, have managed to save quite a bit, and I also have a roof over my head in Melbourne, but it's just the sheer thought of being unemployed for an unknown period of time which makes me think twice before taking the plunge. Any advice would be most welcome! Cheers Cat Edited March 3, 2015 by Catalyst2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMan2 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Catalyst2012 Here are some tricks of the trade you need to implement if you want to get calls from Melbourne employers and agencies if you are searching for jobs from Perth. Here is it how u can do it. Option 1. Do not put your current Perth address in your resume. your contact details should only contain your Mobile No. and email. Option 2. Put a Melbourne address in your resume if possible, in your case you can put the address where your family is staying in Melbourne. when u get a phone call from any agency or employer from Melbourne, explain to them tht you have a place to go to in Melbourne and that your family is also based in Melbourne, they will buy it. I was in the reverse situation, I was based in Melbourne, but nothing clicked there for me, so had to move to Sydney. When applying for jobs in Sydney, I removed my Melbourne address from my resume and just included my Phone no and email in my resume. Started getting calls from Sydney agencies and employers and then finally landed with a job in Sydney. Had to move my whole family too after a few months. Whenever I used to get calls I used to convince the agents and employers that I have close family ties in Sydney and hence I want to make a move to Sydney. The agents will trust you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 As above, lie. Take your Perth addy off your CV. If you get an interview (not an agency one, but a proper one) get them on the phone, explain you are "just in Perth on a break" and you'll "head back for an interview". Then book flights/hotel and have the interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalyst2012 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Cheers IronMan2 and Bibbs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangargoyle Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Advice needed, I am an IT Manager with around 10 years of Experience and the following qualifications; MSc Computer Science (UK), MBA (Strategic Management), BSc IT (Hons), CISA, CISM, CISSP, MCITP, MCSE, MCSA, MCTS, MCSA-2012, MCP, ITIL V3, CEH e.t.c I am planning a move to Sydney in June 2015 with a family of Four (Wife and 2 kids both under 5 years of age). I need advice on the best strategies to find work as soon as I land in Sydney. Would like to know about the experiences of others in a similar situation. Finally, what Centerlink payments are a new 189 Visa holder entitled to? Regards, D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AltyMatt Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Advice needed,I need advice on the best strategies to find work as soon as I land in Sydney. Hi Dan Just pm'ed you a recruitment contact who helped an old colleague in a similar situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozmaniac Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Advice needed,I am an IT Manager with around 10 years of Experience and the following qualifications; MSc Computer Science (UK), MBA (Strategic Management), BSc IT (Hons), CISA, CISM, CISSP, MCITP, MCSE, MCSA, MCTS, MCSA-2012, MCP, ITIL V3, CEH e.t.c I am planning a move to Sydney in June 2015 with a family of Four (Wife and 2 kids both under 5 years of age). I need advice on the best strategies to find work as soon as I land in Sydney. Would like to know about the experiences of others in a similar situation. Finally, what Centerlink payments are a new 189 Visa holder entitled to? Regards, D As soon as you have been granted your 189 and have an idea of when you will be moving, start contacting the specialist IT recruiters e.g. Paxus, Candle, Lucas, Hays (and there are heaps of others). There's a reasonably good chance that you will have a job before you land or at least, you'll have an idea of where to start looking. From day 1 you'll be eligible for Family Tax Benefits, Childcare Allowance and Childcare Rebate as well as Baby Bonus and Parental Leave pay if you'll be adding to your family. You're also eligible for Medicare from day 1. You won't be eligible for any major income support payments (e.g. the dole a.k.a. Newstart Allowance, Parenting Payment etc) for 2 years. http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/subjects/payments-for-families DHS Payments for families Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangargoyle Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 As soon as you have been granted your 189 and have an idea of when you will be moving, start contacting the specialist IT recruiters e.g. Paxus, Candle, Lucas, Hays (and there are heaps of others). There's a reasonably good chance that you will have a job before you land or at least, you'll have an idea of where to start looking. From day 1 you'll be eligible for Family Tax Benefits, Childcare Allowance and Childcare Rebate as well as Baby Bonus and Parental Leave pay if you'll be adding to your family. You're also eligible for Medicare from day 1. You won't be eligible for any major income support payments (e.g. the dole a.k.a. Newstart Allowance, Parenting Payment etc) for 2 years. http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/subjects/payments-for-families DHS Payments for families Thanks for the Advice Ozmaniac. My confidence levels concerning the 'big move' have definitely improved now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangargoyle Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Hi DanJust pm'ed you a recruitment contact who helped an old colleague in a similar situation. Thanks AltyMatt, I have contacted the recruitment contact and am awaiting his feedback. Regards, D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raul Nigli Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Hey guys, how you going… I will be moving to Adelaide in the middle of April & am currently on Seek, looking up jobs in IT & Management. I have an MBA (University of Worcester, UK) & a B.E. Computer Science Engineering. I don’t fancy a coding/software job as I am more of a people’s person. I was looking at getting into IT Support, either at an educational institution or a small company, or an operations management role involving IT (preferably). I don’t want to start too low, somewhere in-between as my wife will be joining me next year & I need to have it all good to go when she gets here. As dan gargoyle said, what options do I have as a IT professional? I had my own company fixing, building custom rigs, tutoring people on iOS & android, & also helping out at local schools in Worcester & at University for their IT needs. What Centerlink payments will I be eligible for? I will be on a 190 permanent residence visa. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raul Nigli Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 I'm a practicing Roman Catholic so a christian institution would be a good idea I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamps Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 3 weeks until We fly out to Melbourne on a 189 visa so time to start re-vaming my CV. I've checked a few websites for hints on how an Australian CV differs from the UK one but can't find much information. Can anyone give any advice on laying out a CV.. Even better.. anyone brave enough to send me theirs so I can see how it's done. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 3 weeks until We fly out to Melbourne on a 189 visa so time to start re-vaming my CV. I've checked a few websites for hints on how an Australian CV differs from the UK one but can't find much information. Can anyone give any advice on laying out a CV.. Even better.. anyone brave enough to send me theirs so I can see how it's done. Thanks. I honestly don't think they are that different - the two page max rule hasn't really hit (certainly not the government sector in WA anyway) so when I got UK applicants with a super slick CV I did have to sometimes explain to my boss that was considered best practice in the UK but I went on a 'how to write a CV course' (company provided as there was a restructure) and to be honest the focus was on succintness. Just google and you'll find lots of examples http://career-advice.careerone.com.au/resume-cover-letter/resume-writing/resume-writing-the-basics/article.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonu008 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Hi All, I am new to this forum and this is my first post. I am a British citizen and received a PR for Australia. IT consultant from profession with 13 years of experience working with IT consultancy and Insurance giants. Currently planning to visit Australia for 3 weeks during easter to see what it is like down under. I have a 5 year old son and my plan is to make my final move in Aug 2015 after school sessions end. Just like others, I have mixed feelings - Nervous & Excited. I am in touch with few recruiters based in Australia, however, not getting any positive response from them. Can someone please suggest what is the best way to secure a job - Any recruitment consultants, comapny contacts etc. It will be my experience & skillset that will secure me a job, however, someone to talk to and little bit of guidance will make this journey slightly smoother. Many Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AltyMatt Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Does anyone have experience working in the public sector? I have been offered a contract paying similar rate to what I was offered at a big4 bank, so money seems competitive & inline with the Robert Walters survey. The opportunity to work flexible hours is a big plus (although wondering how flexible they will be in practice). Coming from an investment bank where you are expected to work all hours and management were frantic & headless I'm hoping for a more consistent workload & better work-life balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chortlepuss Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Does anyone have experience working in the public sector?I have been offered a contract paying similar rate to what I was offered at a big4 bank, so money seems competitive & inline with the Robert Walters survey. The opportunity to work flexible hours is a big plus (although wondering how flexible they will be in practice). Coming from an investment bank where you are expected to work all hours and management were frantic & headless I'm hoping for a more consistent workload & better work-life balance. Which city will you be working in? Lots of experience working as consultant/contractor in government in Brisbane and TBH people (even senior positions) work far less hard than in UK public sector and nothing like the hours you'd be working in an investment bank. You may get a boss that requires their pound of flesh, but I suspect you'll find it a comparable breeze workload wise. The politics and infighting are a different thing altogether though, and I am still shocked by the immaturity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AltyMatt Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Which city will you be working in? Lots of experience working as consultant/contractor in government in Brisbane and TBH people (even senior positions) work far less hard than in UK public sector and nothing like the hours you'd be working in an investment bank. You may get a boss that requires their pound of flesh, but I suspect you'll find it a comparable breeze workload wise. The politics and infighting are a different thing altogether though, and I am still shocked by the immaturity. I'll be working in Sydney. I have heard that overtime is recorded as time in lieu automatically for perm staff. As a contractor I don't expect to be required to work too much more than the contracted hours. Politics & grudges were common in investment banking too, so I've learnt to be careful about what you say & to whom Hope it isn't too cruisey as don't want to become bored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chortlepuss Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 It will be what you make it. Quite a strong work ethic in Sydney compared to Brisbane but be prepared to switch the lights off of you leave at 6pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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