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You are worried about how a four year old will handle the news of a UK return? Really? The child doesn't have much to say in the decision making I'd have thought. It is hardly an age to discuss pro and con's. Say what ever is needed to get over any tantrum. The child will eventually get over it.

I'm greatly afraid lapses in intelligence, being kind, in the Anglo Saxon sphere has damaged our countries irreparably. All built around greed and nepotism, together with a all too complacent, under politically educated ,populist populations stuck in the groove of particular right wing advocated agendas.

This was a totally different country from twenty years ago. Thirty plus years (going back further) it was actually cheap compared to most rest of developed world.

Very much concur. I was one of those that took quite a 'hit' in super at the time, so not as keen on it as some I know, even though pumped a lot in after that and more than made up for losses, but still , remain very cautious. Indeed best to spread the risk. I don't write financial situation on line but a spread in foreign currency is the way to go. I most certainly do not trust the longer term outlook of the Australian dollar ...... We too live rather frugally, rather easy to do in Australia, apart from most things being over the top expensive, of course. The solution is being debt free, holidaying mostly outside the country ( also expensive with the location and a taste for far locations, Bali simply wouldn't do apart from a short get away)and curtain outside social expense in the way of excessive eating out/pubs and the like.

I guess anything more than text length, could be described by some as waffle. If you bother to read , and I admit too much information, but far from fantasy. The fantasy lays in the expectation that full speed ahead can be maintained in times of growing economic uncertainty.

Well no twenty years ago it was a very different situation. House prices were still in the cheap range. The GST was yet to come in. Unemployment wasn't great but social security payments still maintained some value. Rents were affordable, with a question mark around Sydney perhaps. Immigration was at a low rate and perfectly acceptable. Government was stable, if a little too right under Howard. In fact, plenty of these great soothsayers were in evidence free GFC of 2008. Just, as now, eyes were diverted elsewhere and little interest in what was evident. Hence up to a week before folk were insisting the Irish and American housing industry was in great shape.

Das talks a lot of sense. Australia was basically cocooned from GFC due to being in the midst of the mining boom. Since the decline of the boom it has been in search of a replacement and housing and services went some way, short term at replacing downturn . Lets be clear. It wasn't good managing. It was luck. Negative talk is too rarely brought to the surface in Australia. People will believe what they want but there is increasingly, a lot of disquiet about with the state of Australia and how it has become one of the most expensive countries in the world to purchase a house. To eat out /socialise, to travel in and the like.

When you have massive divisions in society there must of course be repercussions. It'll come to Australia, already in stages and house breaking is high in certain Australian burbs. At least neither country has shop doors locked, requiring person to ring a bell to gain entry, as is the case in a number of South African businesses.

How that would work after a breach of visa conditions, I'm not sure. The De facto attempt to remain in the country must be one of the most abused category forms in use by far. Even back in 94, the Australian Embassy in Paris, insisted I signed a document, that I would not attempt to sponsor my partner, a French citizen with excellent profession and high earning ,together with perfect English, on a de facto visa after entry to Australia. I had a hell of an argument with them, as firstly we were going on holiday only and secondly I was convinced it was not legal. Had little choice in the end to ensure a visa as departure time was near. I often thought I should have followed it up on return. Moral is get advise. Don't accept the first word and more importantly get the legal standing. Of course, a breach is a breach would can have consequences and there may be even more to the story, but on information at hand get advise.

Between 89 and 90 I ate out most nights in London, affordable and a matter of knowing where to eat. Years between 90- to 92 , was out most every night, and at least three times ate out. Hence UK was cheapish, if knew where to go. The times and vibe was different. In 2010, when I last lived in London, only one of the 'old affordable' places still existed. These days that city caters for a particular market. Probably even a status thing where to be seen. Perth never much of night city, especially for those over twenty five or so. I find Fremantle a lot quieter these days as well.

Surely 'dependents' could be a cost in health terms to Australia, in time of illness. Somewhere where international students are a cost to the community though, is their ability to purchase housing for duration of studies. I've yet to get any confirmation on their meeting selling requirements when/if leave Australia.

Australia is very conservative. But the tall poppy syndrome is hardly unique to Australia. UK suffers it as well. But I would question to what extent this 'syndrome' still dominates cultural and social thinking? Nor do I agree about being successful. if anything Aussies have become increasingly 'up themselves' and very much into materialism and ostentatiousness can equally be observed here as anywhere else, along with the shallowness that accompanies that.

Read the content well. We used to rent a car during the years of being auto free, for long distance country travel mostly. There are certainly restrictions involved in that. But you will be staying in South Perth, will you not? A great cycle path all around the river in both directions to Fremantle and Perth. Just imagine the benefits you will bestow on yourself. Fitness. All the 'readies' saved. Enough to stop at every river side pit stop for an over priced Perth café or beer and even a sandwich and still come out on top.

To much information for one sitting, but scanned the material and it is pretty much on the ball. We as a nation are in a mess. China has prevented Australia from taking a hit after the GFC but the price was very high. Talk about a country with everything in one bag. Our politicians have sold us out basically. It remains to see how much influence China will wield over foreign policy and decision making but they have certainly purchased influence. From sustaining the real estate bubble that has resulted in Australians being the most levered in debt due to housing costs to annual earning averages onto the education farce that further supports high housing costs as well as immigration, to the use and abuse of 457 visa's and the continued un needed and generally unwanted (outside of business and real estate and banks) record immigration intake to sustain the Ponzi and lower living standards at the same time. And this from a person in support of immigration and in multi cultural diversity and despair at the right wing nut jobs that belong IMO to another century with their desire to return to a white Australia etc. I will return to the article later in read in more detail. But YES in general to question posed.

The rate rise will not be advertised and afraid you cannot say no interest rise in the foreseeable future as certain. As I wrote , Australia borrows in US dollars. If the overseas interest rate goes up Australia will have little choice but to raise. Actually if housing was still in the inflation equation, interest rates would have gone up some years ago. But then already mentioned that. The housing market is certainly a mile stone around the RBA's neck. But they must share a large part of the blame.

I'd hold off and wait closer to the time you think of emigrating. Five years is an incredibly long time ahead. Desire may wane. Australia may be a far less desirable place or migration rules are enforced and a return to normal numbers make the competition fierce.

Sorry but haven't you posted an identical thread previously? Yes we sent a container from Europe to Australia but that was in 2001. Costs likely increased considerably from then. Even then shopped around and found a good deal out of Hamburg.

Quite some difference between $A50,000 and GBP 65,000 and 70,000 though.

A lot of people are/will be a little tired of purely 'coping' with living with some of the world's most over inflated housing prices. It will increasing become less politically a selling point maintaining ever higher prices due to political manipulation. Australia would likely be the first nation that have managed to surmount such challenges if it did come about. For one thing growth in house prices as way out stripped wage growth over time. The housing costs in excess of 6.5 times annual wages is close to the highest in the world. Interest rates will rise with the rise of American interest rates, the currency Australian loans are in. Not a thing Australia can do about that. That's al reliant on overseas events. Nobody or few agreed the state of the WA economy would be as it is at the moment just a few short years ago. People are so easy to convince and manipulated. We now have the highest delinquency rate regarding payments in Australia. Still only a trickle compared to the likelihood of great numbers finding themselves in a spot of bother come even the smallest of rises. Let alone a return to a more normal rate. Changes in NG and the removal of housing from being included in inflation figures as well as halving the tax, by the idiotic Howard Lib government has done no end of damage to the economy. NAB indicated recently that their figures showed 11.6% oh house buyers and 17% of flat buyers were foreign based. At one point the owners of property applauding many hundreds of times increase in their property will be silenced in their complicity in selling out the nation by the growing chorus of dissatisfied and disillusioned people either locked out or locked in a life time beholden to banks , even if little else happened. Of course denial was very evident in the air in Ireland and USA before their corrections as well. But some believe Australia is 'different'. New Zealand is setting a 'new tone' with its new government. Something Australia could emulate when and if it ever manages to elect a political class willing to do something towards housing than a few sound bites. If not a very high price will be paid.

Well glad your' lifestyle' has moved onto to a place you have found greater contentment with. Posts from a few years back suggested not quite in such a state but you have been consistent with your views Perth Northern areas so no argument from me . But you know me by now. I loathe the northern suburbs and wouldn't consider it as a liveable option. You can't beat the inner city or Fremantle IMO if one wants to witness a bit of life around one and no I don't like bland suburbia and reminds me of a sand pit in places. Usually interaction revolves around people with some interesting to say enough to sit and discuss. 'Doing things' is active interaction at best with the activity being the role focus, somewhat ideal for not having to talk to much. Very popular in Australia a country more inclined to 'doing' than much in the way with conversations . Just saying there is far more to do at nights than watch crap television. Limited perhaps in Perth though granted.

Not only that, but until recently, the banks facilitated foreigners borrowing money in order to purchase Australian real estate , further putting it out of reach. Yes I believe they will come down but when remains an open question. The simple reason being each passing year, ever more people are locked out of housing. Sydney and Melbourne will become hell holes, un affordable to most Australians. Of course those that allowed the state of things to get so out of hand deserve at the least a summons to explain motives and a Royal Commission into the banking industry should be a priority The selling out of this country is criminal. It is food for right wing political politics and disharmony. The government can be thankful apathy is such a profound sentiment in this country and people live rather 'private inside lives'.

To give a further example my accountant has sold his house and rents. A far better use of resources as well as prepared for when reality further bites here in Perth.

No it should make Poms aware Australia is not cheap. The prices mentioned are pretty much spot on. A few things even more expensive here in Perth, but overall I would agree. As for location. Salisbury is a somewhat less than prosperous area. It equates the suburb of Gosnells, here in WA where I do a bit of business. It is cheaper, a little, than where I live, hence love shopping there. Like Salisbury, it has a large ethnic variety of shops and people. I can buy packets of herbs for 10 cents. (home produced) Turkish Bread/ Humus/local Coles and Woolies seem to have better prices and more specials. That is not the norm in less diverse with more people on benefits etc.

You should never eat shrink wrapped meat in any case. Some suggestions can lead to less than positive outcomes. Pay more buy fresh always better the fresh product.

Indeed. But still best not to over try patience. The record migration numbers of recent times, is impacting hugely on cities. Sydney and Melbourne of course in particular. People will continue in ever greater numbers, unfortunately, to seek blame in those cities, as initial amazement among house owners that their properties had magnified many times over in value. Many more are feeling 'trapped' and 'missing out' as time progresses. Worse still the government remains clueless how to tackle the problem or if even willing to tackle the problem, with interests elsewhere.