Spratnat
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Hi, I moved over to Aus 3 years ago and was caught up right in the middle of the whole Ahpra saga. This is my experience. I qualified in 96 from project 2000 with dip He in childrens nursing. Had also done 2 uni modules (nicu intensive care & mentor ship) which did not count towards anything. As my qualification did not have the word degree in it, I was refused registration but as I was child trained could not do the 8 week bridging course so I was offered registration with 1 year supervision, which i accepted. big mistake, huge! I could not get a job with the conditions, the local nicu manager wanted to take me on but the upper hospital management wouldn’t let him because of my conditions. I then found out that a lot of nurses with dip he were now applying through New Zealand & taking advantage of the trans mutual agreement. (This route was unknown to me previously due to being one of the early nurses caught up in it). However this route was now unavailable to me as I already had accepted registration with Ahpra. In the end the only thing I could do was do a one year uni degree top up, out here in Oz. It cost me $6000 (& it was very difficult to work during that year due to the placements, so financially it was very difficult). I hadn’t even completed my degree when I got a job on nicu, once they knew I would soon have full registration. My advice would be to go the New Zealand route. There is a very good nurses in Oz forum on Facebook which gives lots of advice on how to do this. Good luck, Natalie
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Does anybody know if any of these courses have a time frame from when u completed your diploma? I enquires with the open university but they said it was too late as u had completed my diploma over 16 years ago? Also I have 40 credits from 2 courses I have done over the past few years, do u think I could use these towards a top up degree, again ou wouldn't accept them as they only accept courses with 30 credits!
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Hi kelly, it looks like we've done pretty much everything at the same time so hopefully you'll get your visa soon! The only thing I haven't done yet is ahpra as I was waiting to see how things turned out. However I don't think it's going to get any better so I will apply ASAP. I don't think I will get registered though as I am diploma trained, I have some post reg qualifications but haven't topped up to a degree. I'm expecting to have to do a bridging course?!?! Fortunately I am not the main earner but I do still need to work as there are 7 of us, which as u can imagine is expensive & also I love my job! We will have to meet up in adelaide hopefully!!!!
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Hi, yes lodged on 6th June. We are moving to adelaide as my husband has a transfer with his work. We are hoping to go in nov so we can sort schools out before they close at beginning of dec. Just waiting on our house to sell & then we can go! Just got the horrible business now of telling our family & friends!!
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Ok, so last night we emailed the birth certificates that had been requested and this morning woke up to an email saying that our visa had been granted!!! Firstly I can't believe they they responded so quickly and secondly can't believe we've got a grant!!!!!!!!!! Soooooo happy right now. Good luck everyone still waiting and hopefully you will all hear soon xxxxx
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Hi, I applied from England and I am a british citizen. I am a nurse. This is my first email from a co, and was informed in this email that she was my allocated case officer. She was requesting the 2 birth certificates as these 2 were not full ones (didn't have parents names on them) so i was able to get copies of them today and i will get them certified tomorrow and then email them to the case officer. Just annoyed at myself that I didn't even notice/think about them not being 'full' birth certificates. Hopefully this will be the only things needed and the next email will be a grant?!?!?!
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I got an email this morning requesting some more information, 2 birth certificates, which is weird as there is 7 of us & I'm sure we put them all on together, but never mind it's a contact & shows I have a case officer & things are being looked at!!!!
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can a family of 5 live on one salary of $75k per annum?
Spratnat replied to susan's topic in Careers and Vacancies
I'm interested in this too, What about a family of 7 on $120? -
I sent an email last week to the Australian nursing and midwifery federation and they got back to me today and are looking into it. So hopefully that may help? Did anyone write anything off to the addresses I put up the other day? That is my next job, thought I'd try & find an email address for then though!
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Same with me!!
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It may be worth writing to these people as it looks like they have something to do with the accreditation of of health professionals? Ms Katy Gallagher MLA Chair Australian Health Workforce Ministerial Council PO Box 1020 Canberra ACT 2600 or Governance Committee National Registration and Accreditation Implementation Project PO Box 2089 Woden ACT 2606 Thankyou everyone who is fighting for our cause, every letter, email, tweet may help.......we can not just lay down and let APHRA make this ridiculous decision. With TRA saying the AQF framework is assessed by ANMAC then we really must have a case. Surely legally this can't stand up?!?! Keep fighting everyone and good luck!!
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You go girl, we need someone to fight and get someone to question what on earth ahpra are actually doing!!!!!!!
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Hi, I lodged my 189 pr visa at the beginning of June. I haven't applied to ahpra yet as I was waiting for the backlog to clear and to see what outcomes people were getting. It's not looking very positive so I am expecting to have to do the bridging course. I am just hoping that the immigration dept don't put a hold on nurses visas whilst this ahpra fiasco is going on!! So a bit nervous as to what the next few months may bring. I'm lucky in that my husband actually has a job transfer with his company and is probably go out ahead next month to start. We are applying throug me as a nurse as his job, project manager, wasn't on the skills list!! However with 5 kids to support I do need to work & bring in extra money and also I love my job as a neonatal nurse and have worked very hard over the last 15 years to become as experienced as I am now, I couldn't bear to think of not being able to do my job anymore and to think this time last year we would have been registered no problem, I just can't believe it!! I hope you get everything sorted out! I'll keep you updated on the visa front, Nat x
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AHPRA and why UK Diploma Nurses shouldn't bother applying
Spratnat replied to a topic in Careers and Vacancies
Someone raised an interesting point, when they asked you for your extra criteria did they ask for any more regarding criteria 4, about your qualification being equivalent to a degree? I wonder what additional qualifications they accept? Let us know how you get on with the bridging course, do they do one in adelaide? It's crazy, we have to pay to be told to do a bridging course & then pay again!!!!!!!! They should keep you on file & just register you once they get your bridging course certificate!!!!!!! I always thought the nhs was inefficient but I think this beats it!!! -
AHPRA and why UK Diploma Nurses shouldn't bother applying
Spratnat replied to a topic in Careers and Vacancies
I think this is the news we've been expecting and we'd much rather people told us so we can have an idea! So sorry for you, it's absolutely devestating the effect this is having on everyone. Have you done any post grad courses? Re check the bridging course as I too have heard it's 10 weeks & about $10,000. I haven't applied to aphra yet as I was waiting to see what results everyone was getting. Don't see if there is any point wasting my money now! In desperation I looked at registering as a enrolled nurse but it states that overseas registered nurses can't apply. So what can we do?!?!?! Just heartbreaking to think all those years of training & working not counting for anything! Let us know how you get on with the bridging course. I am going to adelaide so I might be joining u on it!!! Nat x -
Could this then lead to the immigration dept stopping the issuing of visa's to nurses? I lodged my visa a couple of weeks ago and so worried that they may put them on hold whole this whole issue gets looked into? Or does it mean that they are saying it was illegal for aphra to overrule ANMAC?!?!?
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http://www.nursingsa.com/nursing_career.php Just looked up Australian nursing qualifications, their enrolled nurses study for 18 months and get a diploma, placing them on level 6. Their registered nurse degree course is 3 years, level 7. Our diploma is 3 years & we are registered nurses. Totally different to the Australian diploma they are comparing us too!! This is just so frustrating that they are not giving us the recognition we have worked so hard for! However if this issue does not get resolved can we register & get jobs as enrolled nurses?!?!
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Oh no that is terrible for you and such a frustrating situation to be in. So gutted for you & everyone in same situation. I think we were all hoping this wouldn't be the case, just can't believe they have made this stupid decision . They are basing are diploma on the same level as an enrolled nurse and not recognising we are registered nurses! Do u mind if I ask if you have any post grad qualifications or just your diploma? Nat.
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Hi, is that you're aphra registration you have received? If so would you mind if I ask if you were degree or diploma trained? Thanks Nat x
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There isn't much difference between the two, I think it might just be one module/essay?!?! Like you say if you put them side be side they would see that. On the framework it clearly states that that level 6 diploma is a 2 year course and level 7 is a 3 year course which is why ANMAC say it is the equivalent to the degree!! If ahpra put the 2 courses side by side and looked at each bit closely I'm sure they could see it. What we need is a lawyer who can look at the degree & diploma courses and the level 7 framework & argue the case for us or something!!! That would take time though & we don't have that! Has aphra actually justified anywhere why the diploma is no longer good enough, even though it's a 3 year course & I mean given the actual specific detail if what is missing or different between the two? Because I would sure like to know!!
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I was going to apply but thought I'd wait due to the backlog and see what started filtering through. Now I will wait till I get my mentorship cert. aphra have said they will take into account courses so will just have to apply & see what happens. Fortunately my husband has a job as he is transferring as the head office is in adelaide, which is why we are doing this. I keep telling him I will have to be a lady of leisure if I can't get registered! However I love my job & have worked hard to increase my skills & would like to carry on doing it. Just can't believe last year it was fine for diploma nurses & now it's not?!?! Also there isn't much difference between the courses, only a essay or 2 I think! I personally wanted to do a diploma as it was more hospital based!! Unfortunately I did my diploma too long ago now to upgrade to a degree.
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Hi, I am in a similar position to you. Did my child health diploma in 96, completed neonatal course in 2012 & just finished my mentorship course!! Really hoping that post grad courses count. I guess we won't know until more people start either getting or being refused registration! So far there had only been 1 refusal that I'm aware off. Good luck everyone & please let us know how you are all getting on. And thank you to everyone who is campaigning & trying to get it sorted. This whole situation is a nightmare. Keep the faith everyone, Nat xx
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Thanks, I was ready to apply but thought I'd wait & see what was happening with other people & let some of the backlog get sorted! Bit worried that it's not looking too good ;(
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What modules have you done & how many credits were they? They don't even take into account your experience! Surely they would be interested in the fact that you have safely administered safe nursing care, medication for 15 years & kept up to date in your field so that you are giving best practice! Nursing evolves all the time that what you covered in your course is probably old hat now anyway!!!
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Ahpra it is then, they really do have us over a barrell!! More money then with no idea of what the outcome will be!!