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16 months thats crazy wife is only One Left in family to apply but We Never bothered as heard loose Application fee etc etc. And if new rules did apply then she would need to wait till july 2018 anyway. Was tempted regardless for her still to apply back in june but now that you say that maybe if new rules did kick in by time they did her application it be officially ok as she be under new rules anyway. But if these new rules don't kick in and go in her favor or old rules then maybe she will have a head start. Surely they cant keep a back log for that long aint they going to start new staff so they can catch up. Sometimes i wonder if its even worth it to be honest.

What the reason of trying to apply before parliament starts? When do they start? Am i missing something here while was able to apply under old rules back on 1st june but we left it for now to see what happens under new rules she would not be able to apply till july 2018. Ideally would prefer if we could apply now but is there any point?

I know now its nothing to do with citizenship yes she is already pr for 3 yrs now

Ok thanks thats why i had asked i thought it was something else never seen that part you posted about what it was all about.

I probably have mentioned a million times on here she was eligible to apply under old rules 1st jun 2017. But cause they changed or wanted to change rules from 20th april under old rules she cant. She would have her 4 yrs pr july 2018 which is when she could apply. So what is this new comment about from 1st july?

Still dont get it or what it means and regarding my wife being able to apply or not officially yes on old rules but not on new. Anyone care to tell me what this is about?

What does that mean? For a wife who could apply on 1st june 2017 but never did due to new rules which means she could only apply july 2018,which yet nobody knows what's happening. Im not sure what this is about or means?

Have emailed them all but i do wonder if they even bother to read them. My wife should have applied 1st june 2017 under old rules but cant now till july 2018 to have 4 yrs pr required. Ok english test is another things we are against etc. But our reason's for not applying for her citizenship is due to unsure how this go,might not get fee back and applications are frozen. Would it be worth applying now as they swing towards rejecting the new rules? Or wait a bit longer? If wife called dibp to see when she was eligible would they tell her its from date we last asked of 1 june or would it be july 2018 which is under new rules not yet passed. And can you still apply online now or have they put a stop to this with a backlog. Want to move forward on this and i suppose many others do, but just getting the info together etc can take long enough.

If you had applied in may you would still be too late as they mentioned the changes on 20th april. My wife was due to apply 1st june but we have left it on hold until we see what happens,been here just over 4 yrs but 3 yrs of this wife has been pr. So its now july 2018 before she can apply under new rules or if they do changes etc in her favour then she can apply. Im not willing to risk losing the fee if things dont change and what be the point as believe there is backlog anyway. As many others have said and yes we have wrote to many places from here and elsewhere how annoyed we are. Two main things they should consider anyone who is already pr should not be affected and bin the english test,but yes could make test a little different but to be honest its ok as is. I wish they roll on with this so everyone knows what to do.

What is this going to do or what's it for?

I hope your right but im sure many of us would have heard about it also.

So what does this all mean when do we know if changes have happened or not,my wife was due to apply 1st june this month but due to new rules would be july next year as she will have gained by then her 4 yrs pr. She has been here 4 yrs but as part if her visa was temp she had two yrs temp. She got granted pr on July 2014. So does this mean we can get the ball rolling and apply or wait it out a bit longer. I know she has not got so long of a wait as others under new rules but if she can apply asap i rather she did.

The fact is they dont want us to be citizens as they sure are making it hard for us. Well i already am one but feel sorry for my wife who now needs to wait over a year longer and both our kids and i already are citizens. It was migrants who made australia what it is today and this how they pay you back by making it even harder to get.

Lol where do you get 2 yrs wait from?

His is all ballocks to be honest australia dont half do things the hard way wife is as well switch off and wait till next year in july when she will have her 4 yrs pr. As its all if,buts,maybe,not sure and just does your head in.

What do you mean 3 month period is this still under old or new rules. So what does this mean for wife who was eligible 1st june under old rules and in july will have 3 yrs pr? But new rules its july next year.

So what does this mean for wife who was eligible 1st june under old rules and in july will have 3 yrs pr? But new rules its july next year.

Where does it say this?

So if your wife was eligible under old rules on 1st june to apply would you just go ahead? Or wait till next year july next year where she will have 4yrs pr by then which is required under new rules. I simply cant afford to apply and down the line get rejected and loose the fee,if refunded then all good. But we had hoped before all this was announced that wife would be citizen by end of this or into next. Mine too about 7 months and this was with a 1 month delay due to my daughter still being on temp visa when she was supposed to be pr. At my interview they noticed this but it which was not known to us or nothing to do with us but admin error. As when wife went from partner visa temp to pr daughter should have been same but she wasn't. So it delayed mine for a month until it was sorted. She needed to be pr before she could get citizenship which they changed. But we are just over a week and not sure if should go ahead or what.

My wife was due to apply for citizenship 1st june 2017 under old rules,which she has or will have been 4 yrs in australia and come july 3 yrs of this will have been pr. Under new rules its now july next year to apply to have the 4yrs pr not sure if we should just go ahead next month or wait till next year. I wonder if there have been many who have applied under old rules just gone ahead and done so to see what happens.

What calculator they dont have it on there site anymore?

You might be entitled to your application fee back if the application was valid under the old rules but not the new rules but that's the only compensation you'll be able to claim. So as the new rules are not law yet and say you can apply on the date under old rules what do you mean? If going by old rules wife can apply 1st june but if we left it and went under new rules it be july next yr where she will have gained her yrs pr. To be honest they are just complete clowns the way they have gone about all this. I just hope this does not pass. But we have a while yet to wait to see,while all of us or many of us are affected. When a few simple changes could be made,but no the country is run by clowns.

So what is your situation with applying for citizenship? When can you apply under old rules and also new rules? Have you applied and if so when and was there any issues applying online you was not blocked due new rules? So you have an agent and he said to apply and if new rules do pass you still be refunded? Do you mind sending me a pm telling me who your agent is,I used one a while back for my pr and wife's partner visa and he knew his stuff I'm just curious who you agent is. But he maybe just said that to get his fee also from you but it would be a bit harsh if all along he knew you would never get refunded and lose his too. But sounds interesting your agent says to go ahead,I don't mind or should I say wife does not mind applying as long as got refund. its either apply in June which is 4 yrs for wife in Australia and come July month after be 3yrs pr she will have or wait till next July 2018 to have gained the 4yrs pr under new rules. By the time the new rules kicked in if they pass say this is the end of 2017 or start of 2018,it be only 7 months after that she be eligible under new rules, would be a bit harsh if they rejected then being so close. Im tempted to just go ahead as normal and see what happens but really don't want to be rejected and get no refund. If your agent says do it then I'm inclined to go by what they say,I wonder if they know something we don't? Anyway if your not eligible now cause of the new rules they should not allow you online but if it is allowing you then surely you have a compaint there if was rejected and got no refund, cause they allowed us to apply and new rules are not law as yet.

Yes but can you? Or have the not changed that part online yet? I know from experience with mine i could only apply last year on a date when i was eligible. But as we have new rules are we still eligible to apply under old rules if we are what happens then? They leave it on hold? It slips through? Or the laws dont pass and we have head start? Or could they reject it and not refund the money? It would be great if my wife can apply as it would have been 1st june. But now to qualify under new rules as pr she is now july next yr which will be the 4 yrs of pr for her. We if she is eligible to do online still on old date will give it a shot but surely they not cancek it as its a bit of work just getting all the stuff together. And as for any police check im not going to rush into getting that as only good for a certain time 12 months if i remember?

So what does all this mean? Wife was eligible 1st june 2017 was on partner visa which is 2 yrs temp and 2 yrs pr come july this year she will have been 3 yrs pr. But under these new rules she cannot apply till july 2018 as needs thar extra 1 yr as pr. Do we still apply and can you online? Or should it be paper based? Prefer online. Or will she simply not be able to apply as all these rules etc etc are not even passed yet. I know its backdated etc but has anyone been able to apply online and got further under old rules. I would hate that come 1st june she could have applied but we left it till the extra yr is up but could have sooner or we just dreaming.