Devastated

[Tosh]

After being told two weeks ago by a VERY reputable, registered migration agent that we pass all the criteria needed to migrate to Oz, we employed an Australian lawyer to get things going and have since been told we cannot apply for a migration visa.

 

It has been our dream for ten years to move to australia and all along we've been told on numerous occasions with our skills and qualifications we'd make it no problems.

 

Then when it comes to the right time for us we're told sorry no. To say we are gutted is an understatement.

 

The reason we've been given is lack of work experience and no heading on the visa list for what I do.

 

I started life as a photocopier engineer for 18 years, then 3 years ago to aid our plans did a 3 year plumbing apprenticeship and became a qualified plumber as well. I then changed jobs 18-months ago to repairing and installing hospital equipment/equipment for the disabled which combined both my electronics background and my plumbing.

 

We've now found out that under the various VISA classes there is a class for office equipment trades worker (photocopiers) or general plumber. The work experience required is 12 out of the last 24 months current working in the chosen field you're applying for. Even with 18 years of photocopiers behind me it's only what I've done in the last 24-months that counts.

 

Looking for a visa for what I do, there isn't one. Our only option now is to get company sponsorship which I am told is near on impossible unless you're very specialized.

 

Our dream is drifting away at a rapid pace and it's crushing.

 

Good luck to you all if you're trying to go I hope the new points system in July 1st brings you what you're after.

[Metoo]

is it not possible to return to your original trade for 12 months and then reapply, how old are you? do you have time on your side?

 

Metoo

[Guest xeroid]

After being told two weeks ago by a VERY reputable, registered migration agent that we pass all the criteria needed to migrate to Oz, we employed an Australian lawyer to get things going and have since been told we cannot apply for a migration visa.

 

It has been our dream for ten years to move to australia and all along we've been told on numerous occasions with our skills and qualifications we'd make it no problems.

 

Then when it comes to the right time for us we're told sorry no. To say we are gutted is an understatement.

 

The reason we've been given is lack of work experience and no heading on the visa list for what I do.

 

I started life as a photocopier engineer for 18 years, then 3 years ago to aid our plans did a 3 year plumbing apprenticeship and became a qualified plumber as well. I then changed jobs 18-months ago to repairing and installing hospital equipment/equipment for the disabled which combined both my electronics background and my plumbing.

 

We've now found out that under the various VISA classes there is a class for office equipment trades worker (photocopiers) or general plumber. The work experience required is 12 out of the last 24 months current working in the chosen field you're applying for. Even with 18 years of photocopiers behind me it's only what I've done in the last 24-months that counts.

 

Looking for a visa for what I do, there isn't one. Our only option now is to get company sponsorship which I am told is near on impossible unless you're very specialized.

 

Our dream is drifting away at a rapid pace and it's crushing.

 

Good luck to you all if you're trying to go I hope the new points system in July 1st brings you what you're after.

 

Hey what sort of experience do you have ie. HV colour etc and what reprographics companies have you worked for?

 

I could get you in touch with my old employer, they sponsored me (UK) on a 457 and I worked there for over 6 years.

 

They also sponsored a German guy last year and I think they are sponsoring a S African at the moment, so they are open to it.

 

It means going back to printers and copiers working in Sydney, but it comes with a company car and after 2 years you would be good for PR.

[Guest xeroid]

After being told two weeks ago by a VERY reputable, registered migration agent that we pass all the criteria needed to migrate to Oz, we employed an Australian lawyer to get things going and have since been told we cannot apply for a migration visa.

 

It has been our dream for ten years to move to australia and all along we've been told on numerous occasions with our skills and qualifications we'd make it no problems.

 

Then when it comes to the right time for us we're told sorry no. To say we are gutted is an understatement.

 

The reason we've been given is lack of work experience and no heading on the visa list for what I do.

 

I started life as a photocopier engineer for 18 years, then 3 years ago to aid our plans did a 3 year plumbing apprenticeship and became a qualified plumber as well. I then changed jobs 18-months ago to repairing and installing hospital equipment/equipment for the disabled which combined both my electronics background and my plumbing.

 

We've now found out that under the various VISA classes there is a class for office equipment trades worker (photocopiers) or general plumber. The work experience required is 12 out of the last 24 months current working in the chosen field you're applying for. Even with 18 years of photocopiers behind me it's only what I've done in the last 24-months that counts.

 

Looking for a visa for what I do, there isn't one. Our only option now is to get company sponsorship which I am told is near on impossible unless you're very specialized.

 

Our dream is drifting away at a rapid pace and it's crushing.

 

Good luck to you all if you're trying to go I hope the new points system in July 1st brings you what you're after.

 

You might be in luck mate.

 

What sort of experience do you have?

 

ie. HV, colour, mono

 

and have you worked for any of these companies?

 

Canon

Xerox

Konica Minolta

Oce

 

I could get you in touch with my old employer, they originally sponsored me (UK) on a 457 and I worked there for over 6 years.

 

They also sponsored a young German guy last year and I think they are sponsoring a S African at the moment, I left a few months ago but am still friendly with them. Also know the Service manger in one of the other companies was sponsored on a 457 himself.

 

If you are any good I reckon you would have a fair chance getting your foot in the door, would be on a 4 year 457 but after 2 or 3 years you can make it permanent same as me, but it means going back to printers but they pay is not bad and there is always overtime plus a comapny car helps with the start. Although it would be Sydney as thats where the work is.

[Guest isobel10]

I know how you feel. Im a nurse working as a lecturer and because I havent the recent clnical nursing experience I couldnt apply for PR visa either. That's why Im going the sponsorship route. Surely in 10 years someone must have pointed that out to you or said it on a forum:swoon:

[Guest orangepeelskin]

Unfortunately, this is being done across australia because we are running out of water. The only way you'd get in is if you can bring enough water with you to last a lifetime.

[Guest isobel10]

Seems ironic that all that water fell on poor Brisbane and Queensland and yet there's no water. But hey Im no water expert! Well only the bladder, kidneys kind!

[Paul1Perth]

is it not possible to return to your original trade for 12 months and then reapply, how old are you? do you have time on your side?

 

Metoo

 

Or go back to plumbing for a couple of years to get some experience. Whilst you are plumbing you can then try and get a plumbing company to sponsor you. At least you will be able to say you are currently working as a plumber.

 

I've just heard about a guy who is qualified only as a bed salesman. He's been doing it years in the UK so knows his stuff. There was no option for him to emigrate as that so he enrolled on a course here and came over on a student visa, rang around some bed sales people until he got sponsorship, changed to a 457 and dropped out of the course. (the course cost something like $25,000 though, which he lost).

 

There are ways round emigration if you're desperate enough. Maybe you could come in on a student visa on a plumbing course??

 

I was amazed when I heard this story (and met the guy) only last week. My sister and family applied a few years ago and were devastated too when they didn't get accepted. My brother in law is in the police force too but got put in the "pool". Never heard anything since

 

Good luck.

[Guest guest17520]

I've just heard about a guy who is qualified only as a bed salesman. He's been doing it years in the UK so knows his stuff. There was no option for him to emigrate as that so he enrolled on a course here and came over on a student visa, rang around some bed sales people until he got sponsorship, changed to a 457 and dropped out of the course. (the course cost something like $25,000 though, which he lost).

 

That's what I did. My wife and I came on student visas, she went to college and I looked for an employer who wanted to sponsor me. Our course only cost $2,500 so we didn't lose much money.

 

I didn't have half the work experience the OP has and I did it so there's hope for everyone I guess.

 

Good luck.

[Guest xeroid]

In my opinion a subclass 457 is always better tnan a student visa.

[Guest guest17520]

In my opinion a subclass 457 is always better tnan a student visa.

 

True but if you need a way to get in to the country to look for a job then a student visa is a good way to go as it's valid for as long as the course and you can also apply to work for 20 hours per week which gives employers the chance to "test you out" before they apply for a 457.

[Guest xeroid]

True but if you need a way to get in to the country to look for a job then a student visa is a good way to go as it's valid for as long as the course and you can also apply to work for 20 hours per week which gives employers the chance to "test you out" before they apply for a 457.

 

Risky if you have a family though.

[Guest guest17520]

Risky if you have a family though.

 

Also true, it should be a last option. Let's hope for his sake that something can come from the employer you mentioned.

[BuddysMum]

e visa list for what I do.

 

 

 

Looking for a visa for what I do, there isn't one. Our only option now is to get company sponsorship which I am told is near on impossible unless you're very specialized.

 

Our dream is drifting away at a rapid pace and it's crushing.

 

Good luck to you all if you're trying to go I hope the new points system in July 1st brings you what you're after.

 

From what you have told us, I thought your problem was that you are TOO specialised.

 

I would try to find out some more about sponsorship if I were you. Get stuck into the online searches etc for any firms who might want your skills.

 

 

Hope you get what you want.

[Tosh]

Hmmm ok so my ears have pricked up. You've all got my attention when we've been told by an australian lawyer there's no way we can get there.

 

Paul1Perth: The plumbing side of it is easier said than done, trying to get into plumbing in England with minimal experience and no gas qualification is near on impossible, plus I've seen the 5 sections of the plumbing VETASSESS and have never touched two of the sections so don't think i'd pass that anyway. Apart from installing a few central heating systems getting a Gas Safe friend in to sign the boiler off, most of my other work is just bathrooms with very occasional kitchen work.

 

Xeroid: But the copier side has certainly got me interested. I originally changed to plumbing to aid our move to Oz so am not at all adversed to changing back but been out of it for 18 months now so things have moved on and I am no longer up to date.

I started off with Xerox, then Sharp, Danka and Ricoh.

Did everything from LV B+w, MV B+W, Col, HV 135cpm upwards, obviously networked. As you know Xeroid over here it's not that well paid with no overtime but if it's not bad pay and overtime available there then I'd happily return to what I know. Especially if it gets me to Oz, I'd sell my own sister if I thought it meant we could emmigrate to Oz.

 

Don't care where as beggars can't be choosers, our ideal would be Victoria but once there we'll have the rest of our lives to move if we wanted to.

 

I'd really really appreciate any assistance and a nudge on the right direction of sponsorship.

 

Many Thanks

 

Tosh

[Guest xeroid]

Hmmm ok so my ears have pricked up. You've all got my attention when we've been told by an australian lawyer there's no way we can get there.

 

Paul1Perth: The plumbing side of it is easier said than done, trying to get into plumbing in England with minimal experience and no gas qualification is near on impossible, plus I've seen the 5 sections of the plumbing VETASSESS and have never touched two of the sections so don't think i'd pass that anyway. Apart from installing a few central heating systems getting a Gas Safe friend in to sign the boiler off, most of my other work is just bathrooms with very occasional kitchen work.

 

Xeroid: But the copier side has certainly got me interested. I originally changed to plumbing to aid our move to Oz so am not at all adversed to changing back but been out of it for 18 months now so things have moved on and I am no longer up to date.

I started off with Xerox, then Sharp, Danka and Ricoh.

Did everything from LV B+w, MV B+W, Col, HV 135cpm upwards, obviously networked. As you know Xeroid over here it's not that well paid with no overtime but if it's not bad pay and overtime available there then I'd happily return to what I know. Especially if it gets me to Oz, I'd sell my own sister if I thought it meant we could emmigrate to Oz.

 

Don't care where as beggars can't be choosers, our ideal would be Victoria but once there we'll have the rest of our lives to move if we wanted to.

 

I'd really really appreciate any assistance and a nudge on the right direction of sponsorship.

 

Many Thanks

 

Tosh

 

Righto then I will PM you my email send me your CV and I will have a look at it and will advise on the best way to get in contact with them.

 

I actually posted in the careers section about 5 months ago http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/job-vacancies/99681-photocopier-printer-engineer-sponsorship-available.html#post911901

 

pity you didnt see it then, could have had you out by now.

[Paul1Perth]

Nice one Xeroid, good work. You are right about the 457 being the preference, visa wise, but if your desperate there are ways in that a lot of people might not even think about.

I would have tried the student visa route had we been knocked back on our visa but I wouldn't have known it was available if I hadn't spoken to the guy last week.

It does seem a bit of a loophole.

[DannyCoyles]

Nice one Xeroid, good work. You are right about the 457 being the preference, visa wise, but if your desperate there are ways in that a lot of people might not even think about.

I would have tried the student visa route had we been knocked back on our visa but I wouldn't have known it was available if I hadn't spoken to the guy last week.

It does seem a bit of a loophole.

 

Old saying, "where there's a will there's a way". My entire immediate family all emigrated to Australia on seperate PR visas, six of us in total. Three were told there was no chance of getting here but one way or another we are all here. Dont give up until you have exhausted every option for sponsorship and good luck.

[GavCar]

What a touching story Tosh, I really hope you make it! Please keep us posted on this thread as would love to see if you make it out there.

 

Best of luck

 

cara x

 

ps I also believe where there's a will there's a way!

[Tosh]

Am loving this site and how positive and supportive everyone is, thanks to everyone for your help and advice too.

 

I'm damn sure we'll make it as we want it bad enough and are prepared to do whatever it takes. Ok not sell a kidney or anything but work and study hard to make it work. lol

 

Thanks again everyone, look forward to meeting up one day for a bar b and a beer once we've made it accross.

[Guest guest17520]

Am loving this site and how positive and supportive everyone is, thanks to everyone for your help and advice too.

 

I'm damn sure we'll make it as we want it bad enough and are prepared to do whatever it takes. Ok not sell a kidney or anything but work and study hard to make it work. lol

 

Thanks again everyone, look forward to meeting up one day for a bar b and a beer once we've made it accross.

 

I might have failed my medicals because of my dodgy kidneys so if you do get to the stage where you may consider selling one let me know!!! :wink::biglaugh: