Guest tyasawa Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I feel more hopeful after joining this forum and met with others with the same circumstances :smile: This is really cheesy line but hopefully together we can make a difference. I will also write to relevant authorities as soon as possible. Best of luck to of all of us.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrright Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Hi all, I am also sailing in the same boat as you guys. My question is does recent graduate category is completely abolished after 1st July? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chajath Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Hi all, I am also sailing in the same boat as you guys. My question is does recent graduate category is completely abolished after 1st July? At least ACS is still keeping Group C assessment, which is essentially for the recent grads. The question is which ANZCO code will they give to those Group C applicants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ddd2010 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 At least ACS is still keeping Group C assessment, which is essentially for the recent grads. The question is which ANZCO code will they give to those Group C applicants. http://www.acs.org.au/assessment/docs/ADDENDUM_TO_THE_ACS_PASA_GUIDELINES_FOR_APPLICANTS.pdf This document specifies that they now get to choose which ANZSCO occupation they want to apply under. That means they will be in the new SOL, whereas for those people applied under the old guideline won't be in the new SOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Name Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 At least ACS is still keeping Group C assessment, which is essentially for the recent grads. The question is which ANZCO code will they give to those Group C applicants. Recent grads get their code allocated based on the content of their degree. So if you do lots of programming subject it could be developer programmer one and so forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrright Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 But what if they can't fit into any occupation specified in new SOL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tyasawa Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 At least ACS is still keeping Group C assessment, which is essentially for the recent grads. The question is which ANZCO code will they give to those Group C applicants. I am under the impression that IT degree with at least 65% of the courses/subjects are relevant to nominated occupation, it is possible for new IT graduates to be assessed to one of the IT occupations on schedule 3 (refer to http://www.acs.org.au/assessment/docs/ADDENDUM_TO_THE_ACS_PASA_GUIDELINES_FOR_APPLICANTS.pdf). Please correct me if I'm wrong tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chajath Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I am under the impression that IT degree with at least 65% of the courses/subjects are relevant to nominated occupation, it is possible for new IT graduates to be assessed to one of the IT occupations on schedule 3 (refer to http://www.acs.org.au/assessment/docs/ADDENDUM_TO_THE_ACS_PASA_GUIDELINES_FOR_APPLICANTS.pdf). Please correct me if I'm wrong tho. I think you are right on that one. But we are yet to see any outcome of such applicants so its hard to tell. Plus, since they mention work experience in Group C assessment criteria, maybe having a relevant experience would help applicants to move into a different ANZCO code. (Same thing should really happen to existing 2231-79s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tyasawa Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I think you are right on that one. But we are yet to see any outcome of such applicants so its hard to tell. Plus, since they mention work experience in Group C assessment criteria, maybe having a relevant experience would help applicants to move into a different ANZCO code. (Same thing should really happen to existing 2231-79s) That is true, everything is so unpredictable atm it's hard to believe anything without solid example. If they can't be assessed to one of the new SOL, I'm not really sure tho what's the alternatives. Apply to one of the occupation on transitional arrangements? Apply for TR and hopefully get more experience? Do further study? :confused: Regarding moving to ANZSCO code, I agree wholeheartedly. One would have thought that if we managed to secured a job on our nominated occupation, things should be easier.. boy I couldn't have been more wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest macbeth4397 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Well I just had a chat with the immigration office 5 minutes back and what they said to me regarding my application is not satisfactory.. I applied for 885 independent visa in october , 2008 and I was a ICT graduate. .. My degree was in computer science ... BUt just now they told me as there is a change in priority processing, ICT graduate who applied before have to wait untill 2012.. I can quote his statement .. This is what he said " Yes that what I am saying pretty much, If you have waited for 2 years , you have to wait for another 2 years" which is like 2012.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Name Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 But what if they can't fit into any occupation specified in new SOL? That can be a problem. Especially if you have networking major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ddd2010 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 That can be a problem. Especially if you have networking major. Well "Network Programmer" is listed under 261312 DEVELOPER PROGRAMMER. So, I don't know but if I have a networking major, I would think that I can probably get an assessment under that occupation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Name Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Guys I think it's pointless to ring DIAC to complain about this. These people are obliged to follow ministerial direction when doing priority processing no matter how ridiculous it is. So if you ring you are simply wasting your time and effort and will get the same "tough luck" attitude from them. The commonwealth Ombudsman is probably the right person to complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Name Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Well "Network Programmer" is listed under 261312 DEVELOPER PROGRAMMER. So, I don't know but if I have a networking major, I would think that I can probably get an assessment under that occupation. Hi could please post the link to the list. I couldn't see any list of which major goes under which occupation. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chajath Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Guys I think it's pointless to ring DIAC to complain about this. These people are obliged to follow ministerial direction when doing priority processing no matter how ridiculous it is. So if you ring you are simply wasting your time and effort and will get the same "tough luck" attitude from them. The commonwealth Ombudsman is probably the right person to complain. I agree. Its not unprecedented that often they were giving misleading answers to the phone calls. I had one such experience. The handling of existing 2231-79 applicants with specialisation is obviously a gap in the new rule. They should admit this and publish a further addendum or ministerial direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ddd2010 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Hi could please post the link to the list. I couldn't see any list of which major goes under which occupation. Thanks. 1220.0 - ANZSCO - Australian and New Zealand Standard Classification of Occupations, First Edition, 2006 I'm not sure but it's listed under "specialisations". So I thought that might be it. Please correct me if my understanding is incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheStig Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Like all assessment I'm sure there is a validity period. Isn't the skills assessment valid for 2 years? What happens after that? Get your skills re-assessed under the new ANZSCO? So lodge a new GSM application? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Manj Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I think we (all 2231-79 Computing Professionals (nec) applicants who are affected) should ALL write to all relevant authorities, whether if it's DIAC, ACS, Skills Australia, Migration Institute of Australia, Immigration Ombudsman or whatever else we can find and explain to them about this absurd defect in the transitioning of the system. Hopefully, they will be able to see this logical problem and attempt to resolve it. I don't know but I think if we can point out this problem which is specific to 2231-79 Computing Professionals (nec) to a wider community to be aware of and if there are many of us sending the message then they will know that this problem is real and hopefully they will fix it. Yes you should be doing it..mate!!:wubclub: _____________________ CAT (4), 885 applied 2008 AUG, ICT - Recent graduate NEC, IELTS 8.0, NAATI qualified, Currently employed as a ICT Project Officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Manj Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Well I just had a chat with the immigration office 5 minutes back and what they said to me regarding my application is not satisfactory.. I applied for 885 independent visa in october , 2008 and I was a ICT graduate. .. My degree was in computer science ... BUt just now they told me as there is a change in priority processing, ICT graduate who applied before have to wait untill 2012.. I can quote his statement .. This is what he said " Yes that what I am saying pretty much, If you have waited for 2 years , you have to wait for another 2 years" which is like 2012.. WTF................this is insane!!!:skeptical: Did you get the name etc whom you spoke to ....cos when I called them this morning they did not know to give a timeline for category 4 processing!!! _______________________________________ CAT (4), 885 applied 2008 AUG, ICT - Recent graduate NEC, IELTS 8.0, NAATI qualified, Currently employed as a ICT Project Officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest macbeth4397 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 WTF................this is insane!!!:skeptical: Did you get the name etc whom you spoke to ....cos when I called them this morning they did not know to give a timeline for category 4 processing!!! _______________________________________ CAT (4), 885 applied 2008 AUG, ICT - Recent graduate NEC, IELTS 8.0, NAATI qualified, Currently employed as a ICT Project Officer No I didn't ask his name but he was very confident .. Try to think it logically because even before we were in old CSL list and the introduction of new SOL list plus the priority processing will linger the application for long time.. Trust me I am not less desperate than any one else..Graduates in @007 from the univerisity of queensland with a high GPA in computer science then completing another business degree and still cann't able to find a job.. so many graduate program i was selected but got screened out every time for visa option.. So pretty much I am confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tyasawa Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 No I didn't ask his name but he was very confident .. Try to think it logically because even before we were in old CSL list and the introduction of new SOL list plus the priority processing will linger the application for long time.. Trust me I am not less desperate than any one else..Graduates in @007 from the univerisity of queensland with a high GPA in computer science then completing another business degree and still cann't able to find a job.. so many graduate program i was selected but got screened out every time for visa option.. So pretty much I am confused Hello there fellow UQ graduates. My heart goes to you... I went for several interviews only to be told that they can't accept me because I do not have any PR yet. But just when I was about to give up, I managed to get a full time job. Who knows what will happen between now and 2012? What I fear the most is if they got the authority to cap and cease our applications. :arghh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chajath Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Hello there fellow UQ graduates. My heart goes to you... I went for several interviews only to be told that they can't accept me because I do not have any PR yet. But just when I was about to give up, I managed to get a full time job. Who knows what will happen between now and 2012? What I fear the most is if they got the authority to cap and cease our applications. :arghh: Yeah its really tough to get a full-time job but its not impossible. I had to persuade my employer to employ me. I went through the work entitlements of Bridging Visa A and explained I will eventually get a full PR, its just going to take some time. Nowadays I find many job ads which they say they are looking for people with a right visa, as opposed to PR. period. So yeah, keep trying and you will get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tyasawa Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Yeah its really tough to get a full-time job but its not impossible. I had to persuade my employer to employ me. I went through the work entitlements of Bridging Visa A and explained I will eventually get a full PR, its just going to take some time. Nowadays I find many job ads which they say they are looking for people with a right visa, as opposed to PR. period. So yeah, keep trying and you will get there. In my case, my current employer only asked me if my bridging visa allows me to work full time. It can be really tiring, to get rejected because of something you have no control about. Tho it's not ideal maybe getting a part time jobs or contracts could be easier. And try smaller companies instead of the big ones. It works for my boyfriend and I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest daclaro Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Hi all, I m new member and in same situation. we should do something regarding to this matter. CAT (4), 885 applied 2008 AUG, ICT - Recent graduate NEC, IELTS 7.5, No CO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Manj Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 No I didn't ask his name but he was very confident .. Try to think it logically because even before we were in old CSL list and the introduction of new SOL list plus the priority processing will linger the application for long time.. Trust me I am not less desperate than any one else..Graduates in @007 from the univerisity of queensland with a high GPA in computer science then completing another business degree and still cann't able to find a job.. so many graduate program i was selected but got screened out every time for visa option.. So pretty much I am confused Macbeth.... this might help if you are still studying...some degree's have an 'Internship' module...you get to work and gain experience ....I found my job through this method... try doing voluntary work as well (maybe as a programmer, helpdesk person etc..) and then apply for other jobs! Hope this helps.........:wink: Good luck! ______________________________________________________ CAT (4), 885 applied 2008 AUG, ICT - Recent graduate NEC, IELTS 8.0, NAATI qualified, Currently employed as a ICT Project Officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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