Guest Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Hey this might be a silly post but I have a slight concern if my family were to move to Australia, because we would be taking our dog! Milly is an adorable jack-russel cross with many other terrior types (gorgeous though!) so with her genes it's quite obvious that she's a little devil! As Australia is known for their scary large spiders, how can I protect milly from being bitten by one as she is more then likely to attack a spider if she sees one! Can she have an injection or anything? As we would most likely to move to a modern house, near the coast, would there be less spiders then there would be further from the coast? Also not relating to milly, but to me, are wasps a common pest at all? As I hate them with a passion LOL! Would like to know! Thanks! Chris =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobj Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Hey this might be a silly post but I have a slight concern if my family were to move to Australia, because we would be taking our dog!Milly is an adorable jack-russel cross with many other terrior types (gorgeous though!) so with her genes it's quite obvious that she's a little devil! As Australia is known for their scary large spiders, how can I protect milly from being bitten by one as she is more then likely to attack a spider if she sees one! Can she have an injection or anything? As we would most likely to move to a modern house, near the coast, would there be less spiders then there would be further from the coast? Also not relating to milly, but to me, are wasps a common pest at all? As I hate them with a passion LOL! Would like to know! Thanks! Chris =D G'day mate, I wouldn't worry too much about the dog; my pooch, PJ (chuahuah x miniature foxy and a bit of sumat else), sleeps in the breezeway and there are a few spiders that come in from the WET. Similarly, snakes come in during the Wet and all PJ does is to bark in a certain manner and we get rid of the snake. Cheers, Bobj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Thanks bobj for the reply! LOL your dog sounds better trained then mine as she would actually touch it and sniff it LOL! =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongobongo Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Hi, We have a Jack Russel and he chases the spiders. (Just like he did in England!) He hasn't caught any yet, but they're not the poisonous types! I don't think there is much we can do about it - unfortunately it's just what he does - he also chases the little lizards and even the cockatoo's. We're in Queensland so we have to watch out for the cane toads which are highly posionous to dogs and can cause fits and even death - needless to say he doesn't go out on his own after dark. Luckily he hasn't seen a snake yet but when we do we will cross that bridge when we get to it! I think it's just a case of being vigilant and keeping an eye on what they're up to - sometimes I think the dog is worse than the kids! At least the kids can be trained not to eat the spiders! Kat x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Thanks kat! So yourdog hasn't encountered any poisonous spiders? I guess all we need is watch out for milly! =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elisek Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Hey this might be a silly post but I have a slight concern if my family were to move to Australia, because we would be taking our dog!Milly is an adorable jack-russel cross with many other terrior types (gorgeous though!) so with her genes it's quite obvious that she's a little devil! As Australia is known for their scary large spiders, how can I protect milly from being bitten by one as she is more then likely to attack a spider if she sees one! Can she have an injection or anything? As we would most likely to move to a modern house, near the coast, would there be less spiders then there would be further from the coast? Also not relating to milly, but to me, are wasps a common pest at all? As I hate them with a passion LOL! Would like to know! Thanks! Chris =D Hi Chris, I`m so glad it`s not just me who has questions like your one! lol We too have a dog called Millie, we also have Chloe too, both Springers and both love to play with and eat spiders. I`ve been thinking the same as you with regards to our 2 being bitten by spiders and have been wondering how we can deal with the situation should it arise. I`m hoping that both our dogs will learn to leave the spiders alone and that they will just learn to ignore and tolerate them......here`s hoping that`s the case if we do move to Australia anyway :skeptical: Lise x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest earlswood Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Intressting article. You must keep dogs away from toads though. In America, they call the Red Back a Black Widow and in New Zealand, they call it the Katipo. Red Back Spiders mate in December and January. The female then produces a web with several round egg sacks. These sacks hatch about three weeks later. Signs of Red Back poisoning Top After a Red Back bites, your pet will show intense pain at the site of the bite, especially if touched. Cats will usually salivate excessively and will produce thick, ropy saliva. The cat will be distressed, restless and breathless. It will usually show muscular weakness or tremors and muscle paralysis. Red Back Spiders often bite cats on the tongue. This causes the cat great distress. Its tongue will protrude from its mouth. Veterinarians have reported an occasional and unusual symptom in cats that have been poisoned by a Red Back - the sporadic ‘stretching’ of the outside toe of the hind limbs as if it the cat has a mild cramp. Dogs are less susceptible to the bite of a Red Back Spider but the signs are similar. Pain at the site of the bite occurs and the dog may also vomit. An antivenene is available and is rapidly effective. While it is not always used in dogs, it is usually lifesaving with cats. Toads Top Toads are a common cause of poisoning in dogs. The toad can poison cats, too but this is not very common. Toads exude a milky white toxin from poison glands behind their eyes. They squeeze this poison onto the surface of their skin when they are under threat. Toads do not spit or squirt the poison as commonly believed, and they don’t bite. Dogs and cats are poisoned when they mouth the toad or sometimes when the toad’s poison gets into their eyes. The toad’s poison is also dangerous to humans and deaths have occurred. Some adults have even been affected when they absorbed the poison through cuts in their skin after handling a toad. In China, they have used toad poison as an expectorant, a heart stimulant and as a diuretic. It has also been used as a remedy for toothache and sinusitis. In Africa and South America, toad venom has been used on the tips of arrows as a poison. Toads were introduced into Australia in 1935 to control the cane beetle - a disastrous move, as toads have no natural enemies in Australia. Australian Terriers and Fox Terriers also think this was a dumb idea, as they are the breeds most often affected by toad poisoning. Signs of Toad poisoning Top Due to its corrosive and irritant nature, the poison will cause profuse salivation soon after your pet bites the toad. Following this, vomiting often occurs, especially in cats. Cats also show hindquarter weakness and a fixed trance-like stare. If your dog is poisoned, it will usually suffer from seizures or convulsions. These convulsions are usually fatal unless you seek urgent veterinary attention. The poison can also affect the heart of dogs and cats, causing immediate cardiac arrest. After it has mouthed a toad, it is vital that you remove all trace of the poison from your pets’ teeth and gums. Using a jet of water from a hose is an effective way of doing this. The water jet should be directed forward out of your pet's mouth, not down into its throat. Toads are a nocturnal menace. They regularly poison dogs, such as Terriers, which often chase small animals. To prevent the problem, do not allow your dog to go outside unattended at night. Take it out on a lead if the need arises. Place two or three bells on your dog’s collar. The bells will not affect the toad, but you will learn to recognise the telltale jingling sound the bells make when your dog is ‘suspiciously active’. Immediate investigation when the bells are ringing may save your dog’s life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobj Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Just to let you know what a cane toad looks like.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ozcans Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Blimey Bobj they're massive! I didn't think they were that big - it's like a cat! Is that because they don't have any predators? Do they eat loads of indigenous bugs/small animals then? Sue x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest earlswood Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Blimey Bobj they're massive!I didn't think they were that big - it's like a cat! Is that because they don't have any predators? Do they eat loads of indigenous bugs/small animals then? Sue x Cane Toads eat almost anything such as small lizards, frogs, birds, fish, mice, bees, worms, dung beetles, scarab beetles and even younger Cane Toads and even small kittens. They are also known to steal food from dogs and cats if their food dishes that are left outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobj Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 And you need a driver....a 7 iron is not quite good enough:no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElleNico Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I've kissed a few toads in my time, but it didn't stimulate my heart!! lol x...but I have printed this off, to add to my ever growing list of ''things to know if you want to live in OZ'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Thanks everyone for all your informative posts and pics! Gosh cane toads are HUGE!!!! I'm very watchful over milly, so if she were in the garden I'd be with her! Hopefully when it's really hot she'll be sensible to collapse inside the house on a nice cool flooring LOL! Or in the pool with us LOL! =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Letasha Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Do you get cane toads in Perth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobj Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Do you get cane toads in Perth? Not yet, mate... Cane Toad Cheers, Bobj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongobongo Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 The ones in my garden aren't that big! Thank god! They are really grumpy looking and they aren't afraid of you - they just sit there with a "come on then if you think your hard enough" face. They don't attempt to run away. Thanks Earlswood for the post about symptoms and what you can do if they do lick them. Most useful. Kat x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Letasha Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Just to let you know what a cane toad looks like.... Paul said we should get a few for the barbi :biglaugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ozcans Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Start exporting them to France!! hahahaha Sue x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smc01 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nothing to worry about at all...... :arghh: (btw your dog will be fine with Huntsmen!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Letasha Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Start exporting them to France!! hahahaha Sue x Mmmmm Cajun Cane Toad :idea: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest paradisi Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 how long does your dog have to stay in quarrantine? once its out - flea and tick sollutions are available from the vets or supermarkets - essential in the warmer areas - - heart worm is a big problem for dogs in queensland - and they are spread by mosquitos spiders - most of them avoid contact with anything - except the sydney funnel web - and they are from about woollongong to newcastle in NSW you'll find other nasties but nothing to panic about you should get to a vet as soon as your pooch is out of quarantine and get the shots - for your area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DadAgain Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 To be fair that is a HUGE cane toad in that picture!! Most of those i've encountered in Brisbane are more like the size of a tennis ball, with a big one being about the size of a grapefruit. You dont generally see them around much during the day, but at night, particularly if its been wet they do pop out occassionaly. Our King Charles Cavalier Spaniel, Xena, does bark at toads, but doesnt have the confidence to touch them, I've never seen her bothering to interact with spiders at all (but we have plenty of Redbacks around the house and the odd huntsman inside) - and as far as snakes go I've only once see her keeping a safe distance and barking like mad at a 3m long Python that looked like it was eyeing her up as a meal! The bigger problem for dogs to be honest is going to be paralysis ticks. These are REALLY nasty and Xena has been hospitalised twice. Both occassions we got her to hospital before symptoms were noticable by anyone other than us (very slight drag of a hindleg), and on both occassions she was very nearly killed. There are tick-repelling collars available - but you have to remember to change them frequently!! Cost of not buying a $15 collar can be scarey (we paid about $3000 for Xenas last tick episode) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisamic2009 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 WOW! Thanks for all these tips ,because we have a dog that we are planning to take with us and his cross between labrador/beagle.. and he is full of energy. This site has become very useful to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prozac Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Just to let you know what a cane toad looks like.... I don't think you need to worry about your JR eating the cane toads, but perhaps you might want to keep it in at nights. This bigboy would suck it right off the lead! prozac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhus Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Just to let you know what a cane toad looks like.... What is that cane toad holding???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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