geordiegirl68 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Day off today Nat, so planning to write, let us know if you find email address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paednurseclaire Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 It has all gone a bit quiet overnight on the twitter front! No response to my tweets, don't know if that's a good or a bad thing ?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiegirl68 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 And no response to the question I've asked 3 times! Because they can't answer it! I may need to retweet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jac2011 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 OK, I was 4 1/2 hours early for my induction day so I have come home and sent my first EVER tweet on Twitter! I hope our mass tweeting works. For those that don't know how to use Twitter its relatively easy so lets all get on this. I am a degree registered nurse, but I am doing this for my fellow nursing colleagues with Diplomas who I know are equally as well trained as me. I have a friend in Brisbane who submitted in October and can not get registered and she is an amazing nurse who taught me well as a mentor. When you look at how many of us nurses are reading this thread we need more proactiveness to support our nursing colleagues. So everyone, get on Twitter or send as many emails as possible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jac2011 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 4 Tweets!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiegirl68 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Well said jac2011, and remember. There is a huge loophole, which is why we are being refused, they assess us at AQF5 or 6. When we should be AQF7, they still can't explain their reasoning for doing this. And ANMAC, using the same framework put our DipHE at AQF7, which is correct! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellyv Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I have had a response from my agent who was contacting Anmac. Basically they are not getting involved and just say that although they work closely together the assessment processes and outcomes are separate. Also they reiterated recieving an LOD from them does not guarantee registration with ahpra. So...not very helpful at all. :thumbdown: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliepawz Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Hi everyone today I received my letter for more info to be sent to aphra seems pointless since I'm a diploma nurse but anyway every time I try to email the CO I get the email returned as a bad gateway. The end of the email address is @aphra.gov.au I thought it would of been ahpra how does everyone else's co's end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz2014 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Hi everyone today I received my letter for more info to be sent to aphra seems pointless since I'm a diploma nurse but anyway every time I try to email the CO I get the email returned as a bad gateway. The end of the email address is @aphra.gov.au I thought it would of been ahpra how does everyone else's co's end? try ahpra.gov.au rather than aphra.gov.au Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliepawz Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 try ahpra.gov.au rather than aphra.gov.au Yeah I tried that too it sent but I've had no response do they take awhile to get back intouch? Both email addresses on this letter end with aphra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiegirl68 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Well it's pretty bad if they can't even get their own name right, but it wouldn't surprise me! It should read AHPRA, and not APHRA x x x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliepawz Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Well it's pretty bad if they can't even get their own name right, but it wouldn't surprise me! It should read AHPRA, and not APHRA x x x Haha true I even emailed their main page to double check and they haven't even got back in touch! I will email again with ahpra and see what happens x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz2014 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I emailed web enquiry and got reply that it was forwarded to international team and would be answered within 48hrs still waiting and that was 2/06. Other emails to my case officier have never been replied to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jac2011 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 My complaint to AHPRA got raised to the complaints team weeks ago, no reply either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colettemg123 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 What will ahphra do with all the Diploma trained nurses when they come to renew their registration with them? :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellyv Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I think they will continue to renew them. They'll never get away with that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiegirl68 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I think they will continue to renew them. They'll never get away with that! True, but that goes to show what a double standard this new criteria is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiegirl68 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Can he put all our tweets on it too??? [emoji15] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paednurseclaire Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 True, but that goes to show what a double standard this new criteria is! Do not wish to jeopardise the registration of fellow dip he currently in oz but surely if dip he does not meet the national law (53b) which is consistently quoted by ahpra, then how can there registration be renewed if they are now not working within the national law. I have heard that dip he nurses have had there registrations renewed whilst this fiasco has been ongoing. I feel another tweet coming on :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colettemg123 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Do not wish to jeopardise the registration of fellow dip he currently in oz but surely if dip he does not meet the national law (53b) which is consistently quoted by ahpra, then how can there registration be renewed if they are now not working within the national law. I have heard that dip he nurses have had there registrations renewed whilst this fiasco has been ongoing. I feel another tweet coming on :confused: My thoughts exactly! Your either meeting the standards or not :mad:. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura George Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I feel for you guys but the whole reason aphra have done this is due to the job situation out here for nurses. There aren't even enough jobs for the Aussie nurses newly qualified and existing nurses so adding migrant nurses to the mix would just exacerbate the problem. There are Aussie nurses out here who are equivalent of diploma whom are registered also that's life, boards can change standards as they wish that's called progression same as in uk with project 2000 you could not wipe out all nurses who were registered under the old system. I think rather than wasting time and clutching at straws why not do the top up to degree or bridging program if you are really desperate to go to oz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clairemolly6340 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 There's always one Laura George!! Thanks for the support!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paednurseclaire Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I feel for you guys but the whole reason aphra have done this is due to the job situation out here for nurses. There aren't even enough jobs for the Aussie nurses newly qualified and existing nurses so adding migrant nurses to the mix would just exacerbate the problem. There are Aussie nurses out here who are equivalent of diploma whom are registered also that's life, boards can change standards as they wish that's called progression same as in uk with project 2000 you could not wipe out all nurses who were registered under the old system. I think rather than wasting time and clutching at straws why not do the top up to degree or bridging program if you are really desperate to go tooz? If there are enough nurses then immigration should admit it and should remove it from the skills list, it is unreasonable for one body to say our dip he is equivalent to a degree and another to say it is not especially when they are using the same framework. As a nurse I think we all know about progression which is right and how it should be but this is unfair. I have read many conflicting reports as to the job situation in Aus and would never want to take jobs away from the Aussie nurses, however when you have invested time effort and not to mention money in realising your Aus dream then I think we will continue to argue our case. A lot of us dip he are band 6's and 7's in the UK with highly specialised jobs and would only be an asset to any healthcare provider as well as a mentor to newly qualified nurses. Don't get me wrong I have a plan B, but for now I'm happy to continue to "clutch at straws" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellyv Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Laura, I don't think thats really the issue people have. It's more a case of how the ahpra have dealt with the change. Honesty and transparency from the offset would have enabled them to implement the change with minimal disruption. Eg: when they brought out the new application form it should have clearly stated that Diploma only nurses may not be accepted and referral for bridging/further quals may be required rather than publishing this only days ago when nurses are still waiting for a decision from submitting applications months ago! Most nurses are continuing to study/gain more quals anyway as part of their cpd requirements so I don't think people are clutching at straws either. Australia may be short of nursing posts for newly qualified nurses - but Australia generally are only interested in migrant nurses that are highly skilled and experienced so graduate nurses can't fill those posts anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiegirl68 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) I feel for you guys but the whole reason aphra have done this is due to the job situation out here for nurses. There aren't even enough jobs for the Aussie nurses newly qualified and existing nurses so adding migrant nurses to the mix would just exacerbate the problem. There are Aussie nurses out here who are equivalent of diploma whom are registered also that's life, boards can change standards as they wish that's called progression same as in uk with project 2000 you could not wipe out all nurses who were registered under the old system. I think rather than wasting time and clutching at straws why not do the top up to degree or bridging program if you are really desperate to go tooz? Hi Laura, I have read the DOH's report, as I clutch at my straw, it does say in some areas employment for graduate nurses is a problem, this is even explained to us at expos, however, what is made clear to us is that 'experienced' specialised nurses are very much in demand, in order to make the workforce more robust. To act as mentors etc, and probably why ANMAC require post reg experience when they assess you. However, if AHPRA have their way, you will have lots of newly qualified UK degree nurses, competing for jobs, as they don't require any experience as part of their assessment, so you tell me what you'd rather have??? And as nurses remain on SOL list, for each state, your argument really doesn't hold up! Edited July 8, 2014 by geordiegirl68 gammar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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