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I have applied for visitors visa for 8 family members late March. Their flight is on the 15th of May and no changes to their applications yet. They have all been to Australia at least once, the past visas were approved in a matter of days but that was before Covid.

I'm starting to get worried. If they don't get the visa they are likely to lose almost $50K in tickets as rescheduling might no be possible (they booked the flights before covid and have been rebooking it ever since the pandemic started).

I'm going to wait until Monday when they should update the processing times and will try calling immi to see if I get any compassion from them and hope they can fast track the applications. Does anyone have any experience contacting them? 

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It is not good practice to pay for travel before visas are granted. It is a better strategy to pay a small deposit with the balance to be paid subject to visa grants.

You are unlikely to be assisted in this matter by contacting immigration.

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Westly Russell Registered Migration Agent 0316072 www.pinoyau.com

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3 minutes ago, wrussell said:

It is not good practice to pay for travel before visas are granted. It is a better strategy to pay a small deposit with the balance to be paid subject to visa grants.

You are unlikely to be assisted in this matter by contacting immigration.

that's what they've done mate, back in 2020... They got their visas approved and purchased the tickets but then covid hit.

"You are unlikely to be assisted in this matter by contacting immigration." Do you have any experience contacting them?

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Do you have any experience contacting them?

Yes, 30+ years, 19+ as a registered migration agent. There are some good people in a bad system, but for the most part you might as well talk to a brick wall.


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6 hours ago, wrussell said:

Yes, 30+ years, 19+ as a registered migration agent. There are some good people in a bad system, but for the most part you might as well talk to a brick wall.

Have you seen any movement on offshore 491visa grants? Seems they have been forgotten about. Back in the day they  were sold as a quick processing visa

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On 29/04/2022 at 14:59, Phil1712 said:

Have you seen any movement on offshore 491visa grants? Seems they have been forgotten about. Back in the day they  were sold as a quick processing visa

Actually, the 491 visa was always "the one you go for when you're desperate to migrate to Australia but you can't qualify for a 189 or a 190".

Applying for the 491 because it's quicker was always a bad idea, sacrificing a lot for the sake of impatience.  It's like train travel in the old days.  The 189 is first class, the 190 is second-class, and the 491 is third-class (the 482 is a carriage that's hooked on the back and might fall off before you reach your destination).

I'm always curious when people say visas were "sold as" something.  It suggests the Australian Government was out there, actively marketing to attract immigrants, and I'm curious about that.   I know they did that for a few extreme-shortage occupations—but for the last 20 years, Australia has received thousands more migration applications than they can process, so I'm surprised if they are touting for business generally.  Who was out there "selling" the 491 when you applied?  Was it the State goverment or some agency?

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Scot by birth, emigrated 1985 | Aussie husband applied UK spouse visa Jan 2015, granted March 2015, moved to UK May 2015 | Returned to Oz June 2016

"The stranger who comes home does not make himself at home but makes home itself strange." -- Rainer Maria Rilke

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Who was out there "selling" the 491 when you applied?  Was it the State goverment or some agency?

Do you have to ask?


Westly Russell Registered Migration Agent 0316072 www.pinoyau.com

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41 minutes ago, wrussell said:

Do you have to ask?

Cryptic as usual but yes, I'd like to know the specifics of who was actively marketing the 491 visa in the UK in recent years.


Scot by birth, emigrated 1985 | Aussie husband applied UK spouse visa Jan 2015, granted March 2015, moved to UK May 2015 | Returned to Oz June 2016

"The stranger who comes home does not make himself at home but makes home itself strange." -- Rainer Maria Rilke

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I follow R G Menzies who said: If you can get it on one page I shall read it. I might have been too cryptic.When I was school they used to hand out 6 of best to those who could not precis War and Peace to 3 pages.

 I thought you wanted to ascertain whether it was THE department or some other party barking. It was not THE department*.

* Department name          Abbreviation     Start      End       

Department of Immigration       DI          1945      1974      [9]

Department of Labor and Immigration DLI         1974      1975     

Department of Immigration and Ethnic Affairs (I)            DIEA      1975      1987              

Department of Immigration, Local Government and Ethnic Affairs               DILGEA               1987      1993     

Department of Immigration and Ethnic Affairs (II)           DIEA      1993      1996              

Department of Immigration and Multicultural Affairs     DIMA    1996      2001              

Department of Immigration and Multicultural and Indigenous Affairs     DIMIA               2001      2006     

Department of Immigration and Multicultural Affairs (II)             DIMA    2006               2007     

Department of Immigration and Citizenship       DIAC     2007      2013     

Department of Immigration and Border Protection         DIBP      2013               December 2017               [3]

Department of Home Affairs      Home Affairs     2017      Present

 

 


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4 hours ago, Marisawright said:

Actually, the 491 visa was always "the one you go for when you're desperate to migrate to Australia but you can't qualify for a 189 or a 190".

Applying for the 491 because it's quicker was always a bad idea, sacrificing a lot for the sake of impatience.  It's like train travel in the old days.  The 189 is first class, the 190 is second-class, and the 491 is third-class (the 482 is a carriage that's hooked on the back and might fall off before you reach your destination).

I'm always curious when people say visas were "sold as" something.  It suggests the Australian Government was out there, actively marketing to attract immigrants, and I'm curious about that.   I know they did that for a few extreme-shortage occupations—but for the last 20 years, Australia has received thousands more migration applications than they can process, so I'm surprised if they are touting for business generally.  Who was out there "selling" the 491 when you applied?  Was it the State goverment or some agency?

I don't believe I asked you the question

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They have updated the processing times and now for the 600 - Tourist, 90% is under 37 days so will give them a call on Monday and hopefully they will be able to assist.

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On 29/04/2022 at 08:11, wrussell said:

Yes, 30+ years, 19+ as a registered migration agent. There are some good people in a bad system, but for the most part you might as well talk to a brick wall.

I suspect the applications are in some sort of limbo. When they first applied for Visas back in 2020, most of them got approved within a week with some approved on the same day. I know everything was different before Covid but still. 

Could there be any problems with submitting the applications again, without withdrawing? Also, they submitted the applications as a group hoping it would speed things up but I wonder if it's doing the opposite.

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Hi all,

I wondered whether anyone here might be in a position to offer any advice or guidance regarding my father's 651 eVisitor visa application.

He applied on 14 March and was asked to provide more information (police check) on 18 March. He provided that to the Department on 25 March (clean with no convictions) and has yet to receive any further correspondence on his application.

I even became an authorised recipient on 22 April and contacted my local MP in the hope of moving the process forward, unfortunately to no avail.

My mother applied at the same time and received her application in a matter of minutes.

Would appreciate any views as the past 8 weeks have been incredibly frustrating and stressful.

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My family visas were granted today!

I can now say it was definitely in some sort of limbo. I called immi twice last week and they kept saying there was nothing they could do bla bla bla.

Today I called them again and asked to speak with a supervisor. He was very willing to help but said the only thing he could do was add a note to the application saying it was urgent.

I don't know if behind the scenes he did something else but 4 hours later all 8 visas were approved! I wish I could thank him for whatever he did.

Tip: if you're gonna cal immi do it at 9am sharp which is when they start. All three times I got through I did that and didn't wait a second in the queue. 

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