pzuk Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 31 minutes ago, Elote said: Hi guys very sad to tell you that our nomination got refused for the second time. 1st Nomination applied: 08/02/17 nomination refused: 08/08/2017 2nd Nomination applied: 20/08/2017 Aplication: 02/02/2018 Nomination refusal: 07/07/2018 Low risk applicant sales and marketing manager the reason on the first time was because of tranining and second time because the company didn’t provide enought reasons why my husband was necessary to the company, after 7 years working for them. They never asked for further information just got refused. The only option that we have is to appeal but that can take more than 2 years so, arrivederci we are leaving for good. The only thing I can suggest is if you haven’t heard from them put EVERYTHING even a picture of your desk to demonstrate that you are a genuine employee, and even thought you never know. we have submitted a refund request for the first one in December and haven’t heard anything back, so don’t even bother to do it, they just want to get money from immigrants like us and reject us. Wishing you all the best of luck on your apliccations. Jesus. My heart breaks for you, that's brutal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KazBaker Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 On 05/06/2018 at 16:46, Parkesy said: FINALLY!!! Some good news Congratulations mate!! Congratulations ! Mate. Relax life ahead of you. Enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkesy Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Elote said: Hi guys very sad to tell you that our nomination got refused for the second time. 1st Nomination applied: 08/02/17 nomination refused: 08/08/2017 2nd Nomination applied: 20/08/2017 Aplication: 02/02/2018 Nomination refusal: 07/07/2018 Low risk applicant sales and marketing manager the reason on the first time was because of tranining and second time because the company didn’t provide enought reasons why my husband was necessary to the company, after 7 years working for them. They never asked for further information just got refused. The only option that we have is to appeal but that can take more than 2 years so, arrivederci we are leaving for good. The only thing I can suggest is if you haven’t heard from them put EVERYTHING even a picture of your desk to demonstrate that you are a genuine employee, and even thought you never know. we have submitted a refund request for the first one in December and haven’t heard anything back, so don’t even bother to do it, they just want to get money from immigrants like us and reject us. Wishing you all the best of luck on your apliccations. Thats awful. Was it a small company or something? I don't understand how they can refuse that he wasn't necessary if he had been there for 7 years! Sounds like they need him to me but I guess Im not the expert and I don't know the ins-and-outs. Seems very harsh but hard to comment from afar. Regardless, Im really sorry you have to go through this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkesy Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 46 minutes ago, pzuk said: Jesus. My heart breaks for you, that's brutal Sounds so intense doesn't it! Poor couple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdeep Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 18 hours ago, oscar said: Hey, mate. I am also waiting from 2016, so exciting to see you got approved. Just a question, did you contact they for update? I got no communication from them , just like nothing happened. Should i call them? did you call them? Thank you dear, I did never any call to them. My MA said just wait and Be patient. Don't worry you will get responses very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdeep Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 17 hours ago, Speedbird73 said: Finally PR has been granted after 18 months Occupation: Marketing specialist HR country / 2 person / TRT Nomination/application lodged: 08/dec/2016 Further Documents requested: 5/march/2018 Documents provided: 29/March/2018 Second request : 16 April /2018 PR granted today : 6/June/2018 congratulations. Looks like another Marketing Specialist today Thnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdeep Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Alibaba said: Congratulations. 18 months still a long wait. But better Late then never. Would you mind telling me what docs did the request in the first request and what were in the second request pls ?? Thank you dear In first request : current training benchmark, 2017 lose profit, current bas statement For visa : form 80 , expired police clearance, In second request : She called to my MA and said my nomination approved, but she need at least 10 year information in in form 80 by mistaken I put 9 year. That's why we resubmitted form 80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdeep Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 17 hours ago, Parkesy said: Really happy for you!! Go marketing!! Thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W4V Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Elote said: Hi guys very sad to tell you that our nomination got refused for the second time. 1st Nomination applied: 08/02/17 nomination refused: 08/08/2017 2nd Nomination applied: 20/08/2017 Aplication: 02/02/2018 Nomination refusal: 07/07/2018 Low risk applicant sales and marketing manager the reason on the first time was because of tranining and second time because the company didn’t provide enought reasons why my husband was necessary to the company, after 7 years working for them. They never asked for further information just got refused. The only option that we have is to appeal but that can take more than 2 years so, arrivederci we are leaving for good. The only thing I can suggest is if you haven’t heard from them put EVERYTHING even a picture of your desk to demonstrate that you are a genuine employee, and even thought you never know. we have submitted a refund request for the first one in December and haven’t heard anything back, so don’t even bother to do it, they just want to get money from immigrants like us and reject us. Wishing you all the best of luck on your apliccations Sorry to hear elote, but if you don't mind can you explain what went wrong on training criteria? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipp Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 11 hours ago, Hilary said: Conference and Event Organiser TRT pending since April 2017...no news yet! Hi Hilary, I am also a Conference & Event Organiser, DE 187, pending since Jan 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzuk Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 16 hours ago, Parkesy said: Sounds so intense doesn't it! Poor couple I know. I feel so much for everyone as this is people's lives we're talking about. I can't imagine having to completely uproot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, pzuk said: I know. I feel so much for everyone as this is people's lives we're talking about. I can't imagine having to completely uproot The reality is, though, that if someone comes to Australia on a temporary visa, they know it's a temporary visa when they sign up. If they rashly made decisions on the basis they're here for life, that was their choice. If the employer gave them the impression they were secure and guaranteed to be able to stay, the employer should be shot because that's very far from the case. More than half of all 457 holders end up going home. Length of service or being a "genuine employee" are not part of the criteria. When you're on a 457, you're on a temp contract with a possibility of maybe being able to migrate in the future. I wish everyone the best of luck in making the transition, but it's a lottery and the government has been making it ever more difficult. I wish people would think it through more, before they even apply for a 457, but I guess the unfortunate thing is that it's human nature to think "I'll be the lucky one who'll get to stay". Edited June 8, 2018 by Marisawright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P102Be Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 19 hours ago, Elote said: Hi guys very sad to tell you that our nomination got refused for the second time. 1st Nomination applied: 08/02/17 nomination refused: 08/08/2017 2nd Nomination applied: 20/08/2017 Aplication: 02/02/2018 Nomination refusal: 07/07/2018 Low risk applicant sales and marketing manager the reason on the first time was because of tranining and second time because the company didn’t provide enought reasons why my husband was necessary to the company, after 7 years working for them. They never asked for further information just got refused. The only option that we have is to appeal but that can take more than 2 years so, arrivederci we are leaving for good. The only thing I can suggest is if you haven’t heard from them put EVERYTHING even a picture of your desk to demonstrate that you are a genuine employee, and even thought you never know. we have submitted a refund request for the first one in December and haven’t heard anything back, so don’t even bother to do it, they just want to get money from immigrants like us and reject us. Wishing you all the best of luck on your apliccations. This was awful and unfair for people,who been working hard and pay the tax for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P102Be Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Guys, I am so excited!!!!! My IMMI status just change to Finalised this morning. wish I get my golden email by the end day. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAL Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 minute ago, P102Be said: Guys, I am so excited!!!!! My IMMI status just change to Finalised this morning. wish I get my golden email by the end day. You can check your visa status through below link to confirm the visa. When my status was changed to finalised, it was night and my MA wasn't available at that time. I confirmed it through the below link to confirmed it was approved. https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/busi/visas-and-migration/visa-entitlement-verification-online-(vevo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P102Be Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, KAL said: You can check your visa status through below link to confirm the visa. When my status was changed to finalised, it was night and my MA wasn't available at that time. I confirmed it through the below link to confirmed it was approved. https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/busi/visas-and-migration/visa-entitlement-verification-online-(vevo) Thank you Kal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve 007 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 On 23/02/2018 at 11:29, steve 007 said: Hi, have got my nomination approved, what are the chances of getting PR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkesy Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, steve 007 said: How would we know the ins and outs of your case? Generally your chances are improved if your nomination has been approved but its not guarantee by any stretch of the imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkesy Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 32 minutes ago, P102Be said: Guys, I am so excited!!!!! My IMMI status just change to Finalised this morning. wish I get my golden email by the end day. Great news mate. You marketing too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 18 hours ago, Parkesy said: Thats awful. Was it a small company or something? I don't understand how they can refuse that he wasn't necessary if he had been there for 7 years! Being in a job for 7 years doesn't make you indispensible. I had a job for 7 years and the company was able to replace me, it happens all the time. Of course, the company would rather keep the employee they've got, than go to the trouble of training a replacement, but that's not the government's problem. They designed visas like the 457 as a way to temporarily fill a gap until there are Australians who can do the job. They may be wrong in their assessment, but that's the intent of their decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkesy Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Marisawright said: Being in a job for 7 years doesn't make you indispensible. I had a job for 7 years and the company was able to replace me, it happens all the time. Of course, the company would rather keep the employee they've got, than go to the trouble of training a replacement, but that's not the government's problem. They designed visas like the 457 as a way to temporarily fill a gap until there are Australians who can do the job. They may be wrong in their assessment, but that's the intent of their decision. I would counter that and say if you have been in a role 7 years there is a clear need for the role as long as its tied to genuine, profitable, business objectives, and its on the occupation list. I agree that it should be looked at through a temporary lens but i would say that there is an inconsistent application of policy if thats the case. Are you saying that there are not enough Australian cooks? Or customer service managers? Pick an occupation and you will see some inconsistency. Take them off the list and then its transparent and fair. I dont blame the hard working people in the offices processing, im merely commenting on a lacklustre immigration policy without clearly defined objectives tied to Australia's needs. Edited June 8, 2018 by Parkesy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzuk Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Marisawright said: The reality is, though, that if someone comes to Australia on a temporary visa, they know it's a temporary visa when they sign up. If they rashly made decisions on the basis they're here for life, that was their choice. If the employer gave them the impression they were secure and guaranteed to be able to stay, the employer should be shot because that's very far from the case. More than half of all 457 holders end up going home. Length of service or being a "genuine employee" are not part of the criteria. When you're on a 457, you're on a temp contract with a possibility of maybe being able to migrate in the future. I wish everyone the best of luck in making the transition, but it's a lottery and the government has been making it ever more difficult. I wish people would think it through more, before they even apply for a 457, but I guess the unfortunate thing is that it's human nature to think "I'll be the lucky one who'll get to stay". I completely get your point. But to give the flip side, when you spend that amount of time in a country, you do create a life here. A visa application is someone's future being decided and so has huge standing. I think everyone knows when applying that there is always a chance they won't be granted a visa. Otherwise, there would be no need for forums like this as everyone would be confident in their position. Fact is, if you believe you hit certain criteria and then you are refused on the basis of your position not being genuine, after being there for 7 years I'm assuming that's not something you thought would come up. So I stand by the fact that I feel awful for people in this situation and hope others don't have to go through the same. Thinking "I'll be the lucky one who'll get to stay" is called hope, and we all need a bit of hope. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P102Be Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 19 minutes ago, Parkesy said: Great news mate. You marketing too? I am cook trt applied both nom and visa on 24 Jun 17 high risk , 2 ppl ask for further docs 1 May 18 , New police check, Health exam, and Partner IELTs and did submit 27 May 18 grant both nom and visa 8 Jun 18 wish your guy get your PR soon soon, this page help to clam me down a lot, thank for all info I got from you. my wait is over 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve 007 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Just wondering if form 80 is required, BECAUSE THE CASE OFFICER HAS NOT ASKED FOR IT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkesy Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 minute ago, P102Be said: I am cook trt applied both nom and visa on 24 Jun 17 high risk , 2 ppl ask for further docs 1 May 18 , New police check, Health exam, and Partner IELTs and did submit 27 May 18 grant both nom and visa 8 Jun 18 wish your guy get your PR soon soon, this page help to clam me down a lot, thank for all info I got from you. my wait is over That's so great for you. Go enjoy it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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