Keith and Linda Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Grumpy old man alert :wink: I need a dog to calm me down, we lost ours this year:sad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith and Linda Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 All 3 of my cats have vehemently rejected that assertion. They point out - quite rightly it seems to me - that they don't require walking and are sophisticated enough to deal with their own poo. So there! :tongue: Typical cat owner:arghh: I think cats do it whilst the owners talk it!:wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith and Linda Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 But will your present owner reqlinquish you? :err: I doubt it because she really like it when I am bad:wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petals Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I have a six month old Standard Poodle no shedding, and a five month old Groodle. Groodle is golden retriever x poodle. So both are large dogs. Love them to bits. I have always had standard long haired dachshunds before and love them too and they are lovely dogs to have in the home. Also good for allergies. They do shed though. Non shedders cost a lot because of the grooming unless people do it themselves. My poodle needs grooming every eight weeks. Groodle does not need as much maintenance and has a wonderful nature and very clever dog. I also have four cats. If thinking of a pure breed big bucks are needed. 1800 to 2000 dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country vic Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Please rescue.... 10,000's of healthy dogs and puppies are killed every year because of stupid, lazy, selfish humans. I have all sort from RSPCA and pet rescue, from a Staffy X puppy to an old Sydney Silkey, they have all turned into beautiful pets. So many people get pet because they think it will be fun...and it is BUT it is also work and a major commitment. In my observation the biggest single mistake people make is not making the time to give their dog enough exercise, when I adopted my two puppies (both sadly dead now) as well as having a large garden for them to chase each other around in, they went out for runs and walk 2 - 4 hours a day, all sort of different places, from walking through town in their leads to running and swimming at beaches and long walks through reserves. Now I have the old Silky (adopted at 14 he will be 17 at the end of the year) even he goes to the forest every morning and we are out for an hour, then again in the late afternoon a local walk 30-40 minutes. If you don't have the time and commitment to properly meet the needs of a dog please don't get one. Behaviour problems in dogs are always the fault of the owners. i have met a few rescue greyhounds and they are beautiful and also don't generally need long walks, so a good consideration for those who can't provide a large amount of excercise, they will still have other needs requiring patience, energy and time. One thing I have learnt is NEVER shout at a dog, it achieves nothing, you wouldn't like being shouted at or threatened so don't do it to a dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpingjellybean Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Maybe take a test: http://dogtime.com/quiz/dog-breed-selector I took a test and it gave me five options: Brussels Griffon, Norwegian Elkhound, American Eskimo, Cockapoo and Bedlington Terrier. The Cockapoo is such a ridiculous name; but oh my goodness what a cute gorgeous looking dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 King Charles Spaniels are lovely little dogs. I would have suggested the 'oodles' but you seem to have investigated that type of dog. Another very nice little dog is the Papillon. Not sure about allergies though. They aren't yappy dogs and are very smart. Yes King Charles Spaniels are lovely little dogs. Our Oli is just the most lovely loyal boy. My Oh wasn't to keen on having a small dog at first ( we've had German Shepperds previously) but our work commitments don't allow the time required for a large dog. My oh and Oli are just like the best of friends now love each other to bits. He is the cutiest happiest boy. Our boy Oli bless him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chortlepuss Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Maybe take a test: http://dogtime.com/quiz/dog-breed-selector I took a test and it gave me five options: Brussels Griffon, Norwegian Elkhound, American Eskimo, Cockapoo and Bedlington Terrier. The Cockapoo is such a ridiculous name; but oh my goodness what a cute gorgeous looking dog. Parents used to have a Norweigan Elkhound. Gorgeous but they kept him largely untrained (he went to behaviour classes and came second last) and un-neutered (they thought it was cruel - go figure). The dog was way above the pecking order of us kids. Incredibly strong, outrageously naughty but absolutely gorgeous - fond memories! I really want a dog at some stage but need one that can handle being with a cat - so far have come up with retriever/labrador/collie crosses - would really love a husky but apparently they don't tolerate cats at all well and enjoy the chase and the kill :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpingjellybean Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I really want a dog at some stage but need one that can handle being with a cat A TEACUP pup like a Pomeranian perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Parents used to have a Norweigan Elkhound. Gorgeous but they kept him largely untrained (he went to behaviour classes and came second last) and un-neutered (they thought it was cruel - go figure). The dog was way above the pecking order of us kids. Incredibly strong, outrageously naughty but absolutely gorgeous - fond memories! I really want a dog at some stage but need one that can handle being with a cat - so far have come up with retriever/labrador/collie crosses - would really love a husky but apparently they don't tolerate cats at all well and enjoy the chase and the kill :huh: Lots of dogs can cope with living with a cat. More so if they are brought up with them from pups and know no different. But lots of dogs can be brought in at an older age but need supervision while settling in and so on. I think you can often see which older dogs are ok. For example, we took in a Dobermann, an adult male dog and he'd not lived with cats but came into a pack of 3 dogs and 2 cats and it wasn't an issue. He was bottom of the pecking order. We felt confident when we took him on he'd be ok as he wasn't a dominant Doby and I worked hard with training him once he was in the home. He matured, remaining bottom of the pecking order and adoring the cats and other dogs. But try as he might, the cats would never play with him, just swipe his nose when he cared try to get them to :cute: You can get rescues to assess their dogs with cats. A friend of mine just took one on and he is about 2 years old and happily living with her cats. Its them who are put out by him being there atm. He pays them no attention. Please don't consider anything with border collie in it. The working dog drive is in these dogs and they are dogs that need a large amount of exercise and mental workouts. They don't cope well in a normal pet home. So often in my time in dog rescue we'd end up with staffy types, collies and collie crosses and lurchers. Usually as people could not cope with the collie dogs as to hyperactive or destructive when left. Husky and those types of breeds don't make good family pets IMHO. Incredibly strong dogs, need a large amount of exercise and are pack working dogs still at the end of the day. Plus they are built for cold climates, not 30C plus for weeks on end. They are also know for aggression and are a breed that once they mature and become dominant don't take kindly to other dogs even giving them a warning to stay away (a husky came and chased my little dog to play but my one tired after a while and so gave a bark/grumpy yap at the dog to leave them be and not keep harassing them, husky took umbrage at that and reacted more strongly, and yes, this has happened). I too often see the husky breeds only ever being walked on a leash (sometimes with a NO DOGS hi vis jacket on to warn other dog owners to keep their dogs away) or in dog parks. Rarely off leash here at an oval or along a trail. I refuse to go into dog parks anymore if there are large breeds like that in them. Sorry to tar all the breed with the same brush but I'd rather just take the precaution and stay away as its no fun to be in an enclosed space with a heap of dogs like that and my little one). I'm also amazed at the amount of people who have these big strong dogs and cannot handle them. On collars not harnesses, dragging the person along who can't stop them or barely can hold them. No warning jackets or collars on to indicate they are unpredictable. Often lots of energy as not getting enough exercise. Often not well trained (human or dog). One time a woman was walking her husky, a dog I knew and was wary of as he had gotten a bit older and matured and become dominant, he pulled her over almost to try to come towards us and she just let go of his lead. I was fuming as I had my own dog (well behaved and wouldn't hurt a fly, a foster rescue who was yappy but otherwise fine and my son). The dog came flying over, his body language wasn't good and I put myself betweem them all and yelled his name, really growled my commands at him firmly and kept repeating them. He stopped, started forward again with a lunge, I did the same, was even more firm (was nervous as hell as my own dog didn't like him due to the husky having turned on him before and my dog would always come off far worse out of the two) and he stopped. I yelled at him to get away, kept yelling it and amazingly it caught him off guard enough to stop him. His owner then caught up and got hold of him, I told her she should not be out with that dog if she couldn't control him and I turned and walked away quickly. After that I only ever saw the husband walking him and only ever on the leash, never off of it again. Great life for a husky who could live another 10 years or so :nah: I boggle at the amount of back yard dogs here. Dogs I never see out, never see on a walk, just hear/see barking through the day (and night). I know the neighbours to recognise them and never see them. And I go out walking at various times so you'd think paths might cross occasionally. I only ever see the same dogs over and over when out, often with owners with accents from the various parts of the UK :yes: Two dogs I do see barking a lot get walked to school sometimes with the kids but the dogs are then really aggressive on the lead and one of them, a Cav will try to go for any dog that comes within 50 metres and is aggressive towards people that pass by also. The owner is clueless. The other, a standard schnauzer just goes for dogs and really goes for it. The owner always says 'Sorry, not good with dogs' and carries on, dragging it away. I think 'for crying out loud, take the dog to classes, train it, try to fix the problems and take it out more'. My husband reminds me Aussies have a different way to keeping dogs here, I get that but I don't agree with it. A dog is a pack animal, needs companinship, training, exercise and so on. Not just to spend its life in a yard sometimes coming in the house. A number of Aussies here I've said about going for a walk with our dogs and they just went :unsure: and said they didn't do that. Just headed to the nearby dog park if they took them out. I just then don't mention it again and enjoy my many walks with our lil one (who is an inside dog and very much a part of the family). Apologies OP. I detracted from your topic and will shut up now (after all my years in dog rescue I feel negligent if I don't reply. I am painfully aware of the amount of dogs that end up in rescues or don't make it to a rescue and are PTS at the pound after 7 days, many not even a year old, just no longer cute or too much to cope with and so chucked out like rubbish :no:) and go back to thinking about other breeds that might suit your wish list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Lots of dogs can cope with living with a cat. More so if they are brought up with them from pups and know no different. But lots of dogs can be brought in at an older age but need supervision while settling in and so on. I think you can often see which older dogs are ok. For example, we took in a Dobermann, an adult male dog and he'd not lived with cats but came into a pack of 3 dogs and 2 cats and it wasn't an issue. He was bottom of the pecking order. We felt confident when we took him on he'd be ok as he wasn't a dominant Doby and I worked hard with training him once he was in the home. He matured, remaining bottom of the pecking order and adoring the cats and other dogs. But try as he might, the cats would never play with him, just swipe his nose when he cared try to get them to :cute: You can get rescues to assess their dogs with cats. A friend of mine just took one on and he is about 2 years old and happily living with her cats. Its them who are put out by him being there atm. He pays them no attention. Please don't consider anything with border collie in it. The working dog drive is in these dogs and they are dogs that need a large amount of exercise and mental workouts. They don't cope well in a normal pet home. So often in my time in dog rescue we'd end up with staffy types, collies and collie crosses and lurchers. Usually as people could not cope with the collie dogs as to hyperactive or destructive when left. Husky and those types of breeds don't make good family pets IMHO. Incredibly strong dogs, need a large amount of exercise and are pack working dogs still at the end of the day. Plus they are built for cold climates, not 30C plus for weeks on end. They are also know for aggression and are a breed that once they mature and become dominant don't take kindly to other dogs even giving them a warning to stay away (a husky came and chased my little dog to play but my one tired after a while and so gave a bark/grumpy yap at the dog to leave them be and not keep harassing them, husky took umbrage at that and reacted more strongly, and yes, this has happened). I too often see the husky breeds only ever being walked on a leash (sometimes with a NO DOGS hi vis jacket on to warn other dog owners to keep their dogs away) or in dog parks. Rarely off leash here at an oval or along a trail. I refuse to go into dog parks anymore if there are large breeds like that in them. Sorry to tar all the breed with the same brush but I'd rather just take the precaution and stay away as its no fun to be in an enclosed space with a heap of dogs like that and my little one). I'm also amazed at the amount of people who have these big strong dogs and cannot handle them. On collars not harnesses, dragging the person along who can't stop them or barely can hold them. No warning jackets or collars on to indicate they are unpredictable. Often lots of energy as not getting enough exercise. Often not well trained (human or dog). One time a woman was walking her husky, a dog I knew and was wary of as he had gotten a bit older and matured and become dominant, he pulled her over almost to try to come towards us and she just let go of his lead. I was fuming as I had my own dog (well behaved and wouldn't hurt a fly, a foster rescue who was yappy but otherwise fine and my son). The dog came flying over, his body language wasn't good and I put myself betweem them all and yelled his name, really growled my commands at him firmly and kept repeating them. He stopped, started forward again with a lunge, I did the same, was even more firm (was nervous as hell as my own dog didn't like him due to the husky having turned on him before and my dog would always come off far worse out of the two) and he stopped. I yelled at him to get away, kept yelling it and amazingly it caught him off guard enough to stop him. His owner then caught up and got hold of him, I told her she should not be out with that dog if she couldn't control him and I turned and walked away quickly. After that I only ever saw the husband walking him and only ever on the leash, never off of it again. Great life for a husky who could live another 10 years or so :nah: I boggle at the amount of back yard dogs here. Dogs I never see out, never see on a walk, just hear/see barking through the day (and night). I know the neighbours to recognise them and never see them. And I go out walking at various times so you'd think paths might cross occasionally. I only ever see the same dogs over and over when out, often with owners with accents from the various parts of the UK :yes: Two dogs I do see barking a lot get walked to school sometimes with the kids but the dogs are then really aggressive on the lead and one of them, a Cav will try to go for any dog that comes within 50 metres and is aggressive towards people that pass by also. The owner is clueless. The other, a standard schnauzer just goes for dogs and really goes for it. The owner always says 'Sorry, not good with dogs' and carries on, dragging it away. I think 'for crying out loud, take the dog to classes, train it, try to fix the problems and take it out more'. My husband reminds me Aussies have a different way to keeping dogs here, I get that but I don't agree with it. A dog is a pack animal, needs companinship, training, exercise and so on. Not just to spend its life in a yard sometimes coming in the house. A number of Aussies here I've said about going for a walk with our dogs and they just went :unsure: and said they didn't do that. Just headed to the nearby dog park if they took them out. I just then don't mention it again and enjoy my many walks with our lil one (who is an inside dog and very much a part of the family). Apologies OP. I detracted from your topic and will shut up now (after all my years in dog rescue I feel negligent if I don't reply. I am painfully aware of the amount of dogs that end up in rescues or don't make it to a rescue and are PTS at the pound after 7 days, many not even a year old, just no longer cute or too much to cope with and so chucked out like rubbish :no:) and go back to thinking about other breeds that might suit your wish list Brilliant post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzukiscottie Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 This young fella has been a breath of fresh air in our household. He's been hard work at times, and training is constant. But the rewards are fantastic. Lots of people have told us that Choc Labs can be a handful and are a bit scatter-brained (you don't see many chocolate guide-dogs, do you?). He'll carry a pebble around in his mouth all day as if I don't know about it, but whenever I put my hand in my pocket he spits out the pebble just in case there might be a treat in my pocket! He's got heaps of personality. But he knows the behaviour boundaries, and he likes to push the limits sometimes. It's all good fun though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chortlepuss Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I don't understand why people keep dogs in yards either.... We did look after a lab retriever for a while. Lovely dog. Drooled a lot and shed and was really greedy but such a lovely dog. He was kept in a yard by his owners and when we borrowed him, we used to take him out for long walks - he loved it and was always sad when he had to go home - we tried to adopt him but they couldn't let him go. Sad really when I think of this social, companionable dog being stuck in a yard and at best walked round the block. I need a dog that likes long walks. When I get back to the UK, I think I will try and foster a dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diane Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 The other, a standard schnauzer just goes for dogs and really goes for it. The owner always says 'Sorry, not good with dogs' and carries on, dragging it away. I think 'for crying out loud, take the dog to classes, train it, try to fix the problems and take it out more'. I'd second your comment on collies and collie-crosses. Never get a dog that's more intelligent than you and your family members (this is from experience!) However, on the comment above, I'd just like to say that our border collie/kelpie cross hates other dogs. Loves their humans, hates the dogs. We took her to training classes for years to try and socialise her. She loved the classes, but never got over her fear/hatred of other dogs. In fact the trainer herself had a border collie and said she left it in the car during classes as it was exactly the same. One time someone came up to me with my dog on the lead and they had this big white fluffy dog. i explained that Bonny was not good with other dogs, and the other owner said "oh she'll be fine" and let her dog sniff mine (Bonny does not like other dogs' noses up her rear end!). Well...the blood on the other dog's ear showed up really well against its white fur! Our dog is also very well trained. Will stop and sit at a single word when off the lead and never approaches another dog. And gets loads of exercise. But she still hates other dogs. She's always on the lead when there are any other dogs around. So some dogs, however well trained, exercised and socialised they are, just think they are humans not dogs and refuse to play with other dogs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JockinTas Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I'd second your comment on collies and collie-crosses. Never get a dog that's more intelligent than you and your family members (this is from experience!) However, on the comment above, I'd just like to say that our border collie/kelpie cross hates other dogs. Loves their humans, hates the dogs. We took her to training classes for years to try and socialise her. She loved the classes, but never got over her fear/hatred of other dogs. In fact the trainer herself had a border collie and said she left it in the car during classes as it was exactly the same. One time someone came up to me with my dog on the lead and they had this big white fluffy dog. i explained that Bonny was not good with other dogs, and the other owner said "oh she'll be fine" and let her dog sniff mine (Bonny does not like other dogs' noses up her rear end!). Well...the blood on the other dog's ear showed up really well against its white fur! Our dog is also very well trained. Will stop and sit at a single word when off the lead and never approaches another dog. And gets loads of exercise. But she still hates other dogs. She's always on the lead when there are any other dogs around. So some dogs, however well trained, exercised and socialised they are, just think they are humans not dogs and refuse to play with other dogs! My dog (Jack Russell x bull terrier) is the same. He was 2 years old when we got him from the RSPCA dog home and had just been de-sexed. He loves people but can take or leave other dogs. He doesn't like dogs coming near him when he's on the lead. Funnily enough he's fine off the lead and tolerates other dogs sniffing him. He doesn't play with them though. His best pal is a greyhound. They play happily together and look really funny as one dog is so big and graceful and the other is stumpy and stocky. I have no idea why some people have a dog and leave it in the back yard and never take it for walks. Just cruel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petals Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I have always had dogs and cats and never worried about them, pups are best with them of course but you can introduce older dogs. It just takes more patience and time. Cats are good at looking after themselves. My four are having a bit of prob with the bouncy young dogs but the oldest one gives them a clout and they know to keep away. The others I give sanctuary to in another part of the house, as long as they can get away from them. Once the dogs grow up they will not bat an eye at the cats and likewise. I had a dog trainer here this week with the pups and he said that they put down a large large large number of dogs every year in Australia and its happening every day at rescue and other organisations. The dogs have to pass a test to be rehomed. So who do we thank for this, us humans, so selfish. Why do people not realise its a responsibility to have animals. The holiday season is coming up and lots of people give up their pets at this time rather than save for them to be cared for whilst they are on holiday. I despair why people feel they are disposable. Trainer said he visited a couple paid three grand for the dog for their two year old. Two year old was not interested so they did not want it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest30085 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I seem to meet with your requirements:embarrassed: :laugh::laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I wouldn't buy a dog from a breeder when there are so many on death row tbh. Pedigrees too if that's what you want. All dogs require patience, time and a firm loving hand to settle happily into a family. You should have to pay, be character checked and go onto a register in order to keep a dog IMO. I also think breeders should have quotas that they cannot exceed. As for puppy farms and dogs in pet shops....well......I saw incidents at local pet shop last week that made me quite sad and despair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jetandspade Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 A poodle is the obvious choice if you are worried about allergies. Also they are great with kids and the don't loose their hair so your house will not get full of hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpingjellybean Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 The holiday season is coming up and lots of people give up their pets at this time rather than save for them to be cared for whilst they are on holiday. I despair why people feel they are disposable. This is one thing I just cannot understand. I have heard about it before and find it so hard to believe. I find it hard to believe that anyone would be stupid enough, selfish enough, tightfisted enough and lack feelings enough to do this. Alas I know it is true. I even have a pet that does not seem to like me. But I would never abandon her. I made a commitment to take care of her when I took her into my home. And I will always honour that commitment until she dies a natural death. To house her at a cattery when we go away on holiday costs a lot of money. But that is part of the responsibility of having an animal in the home. I cannot understand how people think pets are disposable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petkula73 Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 Thanks everyone for the incredible amount of feedback. Feeling a bit overwhelmed with the response!! We'll take the comments about rescue dogs on board. Makes sense to me that saving a dog is better than breeding a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpodom Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 cocker spaniel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bound4Tassie Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Bedlingtons are a wonderful breed. Great with children ( as much as any other dog is with respectful children!). You don't have to have the silly lamb show haircut . Any breed that doesn't shed( low allergen so to speak) will need its coat trimming about every 8 weeks. As someone said spend time with the breed/ rescue dog before taking it home to check you are not allergic to it. Some people its the saliva or the dander (skin cells not the actual hair) so shedding is neither here nor there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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