CaptN Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Hi...I will be obtaining my Master's licence end of the year.I presently hold Chief Mate COC.Can I apply for skill assessment now with AMSA under Ship Master since i intend to go there for orals (AGW) after my Master's ticket. This way i would just save some time starting the process sooner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainR Posted May 13, 2016 Author Share Posted May 13, 2016 Hi...I will be obtaining my Master's licence end of the year.I presently hold Chief Mate COC.Can I apply for skill assessment now with AMSA under Ship Master since i intend to go there for orals (AGW) after my Master's ticket.This way i would just save some time starting the process sooner I very much doubt it, a Masters CoR is assessed against a pre-existing Masters CoC. AMSA are quite rigid and operate in a very black and white manner, anything that does not fit into the prescribed requirements in the legislation is generally met with rejection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptN Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Thank you Sir for your prompt reply Sir the plan is to apply for my skill assessment at present and undergo mates oral in australia purely for PR purpose so that by the time Iam done with Master's i would have my Grant. In this scenario i understand i would have to undergo only an oral again (since i would be australia with my PR) after obtaining master's licence in case i get an opportunity to work in australia ?(plz correct me if iam wrong) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainR Posted May 14, 2016 Author Share Posted May 14, 2016 Thank you Sir for your prompt replySir the plan is to apply for my skill assessment at present and undergo mates oral in australia purely for PR purpose so that by the time Iam done with Master's i would have my Grant. In this scenario i understand i would have to undergo only an oral again (since i would be australia with my PR) after obtaining master's licence in case i get an opportunity to work in australia ?(plz correct me if iam wrong) You will probably have to pay for another assessment in addition to the Master CoR oral, essentially doubling the work. That being said, it is unlikely that you would need an AMSA CoR to find work when you get here. As a warning though, work is few and far between, recent adverts for pilotage jobs have had hundreds of experienced and qualified applicants, likewise most seagoing jobs are letting people go rather then recruiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptN Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Yes Sir i completely agree with you. The job scenario seems dismal and bleak however Iam working on board Specialised ROV DP vessels and knowing Australia to be the second biggest gas producer ,hoping for a promising future. In the current market situation i guess ill have to continue working with my existing company till things get better Iam sorting out my seatime letters,.will apply for my skill assessment next week. Thank you for being so active on the forum. It's a blessing for people specially like myself who need clarification and the agents are almost useless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainR Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-15/seafarers-devastated-by-influx-of-foreigner-workers/7414570 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-15/seafarers-devastated-by-influx-of-foreigner-workers/7414570 The above link is worth a read for anyone considering applying for skilled migration, the AMOU is working towards getting Masters & Mates removed from the skilled occupation list. Edited May 15, 2016 by CaptainR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anil999 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Dear cap R I'm a certified 2 nd mate from india. I would like to give my chief mates at Australia.I'm having 30 months sea experience.I'm having the following doubts. 1.should I have an Australian cor prior giving an exam for mates from Australia. 2.should I have an Australian pr prior to proceeding for chief mate fg course I was planning to study at Challenger institute for chief mate fg They have asked me to get my sea time assesed from AMSA. Please advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptN Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Thank you Sir for sharing the Article. Hoping for the best though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptN Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Requesting senior members who have obtained their grant or are near the completion of the process to kindly share details of a MARA registered agent in and around New Delhi. Looking for someone who is well versed with the requirements of our occupation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jithooos Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Hello seniors this thread was of great use to acquire critical information regarding skilled migration. However I have a slightly different query. Myself and my wife are planning to migrate under 189 skilled visa.I'm planning to stay as co-applicant as my wife will be the primary. In order to achieve extra 5 points I read that I have to get my skills assessed. My question 1. In this case too should I need to attend the orals or is there any formal assessment which could be done for me to stay as co applicant ? What does AMSA say when we initially submit our docs ? Grade : chief mate FG, India Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainR Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 Requesting senior members who have obtained their grant or are near the completion of the process to kindly share details of a MARA registered agent in and around New Delhi. Looking for someone who is well versed with the requirements of our occupation. It's primarily a pom (british) biased forum, so you might want to try asking around elsewhere for specific agents in New Delhi. Hello seniors this thread was of great use to acquire critical information regarding skilled migration. However I have a slightly different query. Myself and my wife are planning to migrate under 189 skilled visa.I'm planning to stay as co-applicant as my wife will be the primary. In order to achieve extra 5 points I read that I have to get my skills assessed. My question 1. In this case too should I need to attend the orals or is there any formal assessment which could be done for me to stay as co applicant ? What does AMSA say when we initially submit our docs ? Grade : chief mate FG, India Thank you Yes to get the skills assessment, even as a co-applicant, you will need to to go through the same process including the Oral. Could you not get the points for your wife through other methods (English test etc?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptN Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Good Day Sirs My COC is expiring August 2016.Do i need to renew it prior applying for skill assessment or should I go ahead and apply for skill assessment and renew my COC prior appearing for Orals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anil999 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I am second mate holding Indian coc .do I need to apply and get an Australian cor for my present coc before joining for an chief mate fg course at Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anil999 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Dear Capt c I want to do my chief mates fg from Australia.at present I'm holding an Indian coc for oow.my coc is valid till 2020.Do I need appear for an oral exam for an Australian oow prior to my chief mates course from an approved institute. I intent to do this from Challenger institute. To be more specific do I need have an Australian oow to appear for chief mate. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainR Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 Good Day SirsMy COC is expiring August 2016.Do i need to renew it prior applying for skill assessment or should I go ahead and apply for skill assessment and renew my COC prior appearing for Orals? I can't answer that, it could make life a little more complicated for you, but unless you e-mail AMSA and ask, you won't know. Why not renew it early? Dear Capt c I want to do my chief mates fg from Australia.at present I'm holding an Indian coc for oow.my coc is valid till 2020.Do I need appear for an oral exam for an Australian oow prior to my chief mates course from an approved institute. I intent to do this from Challenger institute. To be more specific do I need have an Australian oow to appear for chief mate. Thanks You will definitely need to contact the Challenger Institute (or Australian Maritime College in Tasmania) to find out about that, they will be able to talk you through entry requirements, the process and the student visas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anil999 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I can't answer that, it could make life a little more complicated for you, but unless you e-mail AMSA and ask, you won't know. Why not renew it early? You will definitely need to contact the Challenger Institute (or Australian Maritime College in Tasmania) to find out about that, they will be able to talk you through entry requirements, the process and the student visas. Dear cap c They are saying to get my sea service assesed by AMSA prior joining for chief mates course. But should I get an Australian cor for my oow certificate before appearing for chief mates fg.please advice Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainR Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 Dear cap c They are saying to get my sea service assesed by AMSA prior joining for chief mates course. But should I get an Australian cor for my oow certificate before appearing for chief mates fg.please advice Thanks Only AMSA can answer that, but I very much doubt that you would have to do that. Drop AMSA an email to ask what to do next, although I'm surprised the college hasn't given you more information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid007 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Dear Captain C, Captain R, Some of the websites have already published 2016-17 SOL and Ship's Master is still there. Hope its a good news. Kind regards Sid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptN Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Sir is Ship's Officer listed too?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptN Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Just read the article...Ship's Master/Officer/Engineer -All 3 listed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptN Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 http://humansatsea.com/2016/05/22/australian-seafarers-devastated-influx-foreign-workers-maritime-industry/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariner2126 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I needed some assistance with some questions: requirements to maintain the following on Australian registered ships official logbook gmdss logbook battery logbook seafarer agreements also difference between Australian and international requirements life saving appliances ism code auditing and certification ship security auditing and certification ship reporting i would very much appreciate if you could help me out with these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainR Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 https://www.education.gov.au/flagged-occupations-sol-2016-17 Ships Officers/Masters/Engineers are now on the flagged list for possible removal in the future, the unions here are actively working for the removal as the country now has a surplus of the skills with many seafarers unemployed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harprret Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Hello all capts... I have not started the procedure to apply for AMSA COR. I have found this thread very interesting. I am going to start process of getting company letters. So 1st question...to whom these letters to be addressed to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainR Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 Hello all capts... I have not started the procedure to apply for AMSA COR. I have found this thread very interesting. I am going to start process of getting company letters. So 1st question...to whom these letters to be addressed to? Australian Maritime Safety Authority 82 Northbourne Avenue Braddon ACT 2612 Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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