CaptainC Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I heard that Ship's Master will be removed from the Skilled occupation list. This news was given to me by a Captain working in Melbourne. So friends, find out and apply as early as possible. Just saw this post. The Ship's Officer/Master is not likely to be removed, as an occupation would have be on the list of flagged occupations first. See the flagged list here > https://www.education.gov.au/flagged-occupations-sol-2015-2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master24m Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 The ships officer/master not being likely to be removed is a relief as I'm currently in the process of applying for my skills assessment. I have had a vebal agreement on a job but have to wait until my pr is through. The company are more than happy to employ me but we're not willing to sponsor me on. Frustrating to say the least but it is what it is. I have ielts next week and have been revising as the 8 band score would give me an extra 10 points and most probably give me a better chance of receiving an invite quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Mate S Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 From 14 Dec 15, the workers on vessels in the offshore oil and gas industry do not need visa. This should hit the industry badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainC Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 From 14 Dec 15, the workers on vessels in the offshore oil and gas industry do not need visa. This should hit the industry badly. It will kill the Australian job market I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Mate S Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 It will kill the Australian job market I think. Majority of Australian seafarers are employed in offshore oil and gas sector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master24m Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 If somebody could please advise me on whether AMSA will recognise qualifications as mine are the equivalent to that of a diploma, If this is not the case will i need to submit an application to vetasses. Further to that i also have an engineers licence that is used for my occupation and will AMSA recognise this as the extra 10 points would be helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainC Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 If somebody could please advise me on whether AMSA will recognise qualifications as mine are the equivalent to that of a diploma, If this is not the case will i need to submit an application to vetasses.Further to that i also have an engineers licence that is used for my occupation and will AMSA recognise this as the extra 10 points would be helpful What qualifications do you have, and who are they issued by? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnp Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Hi guys, finally got my invite on 18th and applied yesterday/24 Dec. And the wait begins!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master24m Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Hello CaptainC. I currently hold a Skipper Grade 3 And Marine Engine Driver Grade 3 issued by Queensland Government. I was informed by one of the senior assessors at AMSA to apply for a Master 24m nc as they do not recognise fishing quals for skilled migration purposes. I was told by the assessor that mine was a unique case and told me to write a cover letter explaining that I had spoken to him regarding my queries. He was very helpful and informative in regards to documents and the process to gaining a positive skills assessment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainR Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 Hello CaptainC. I currently hold a Skipper Grade 3 And Marine Engine Driver Grade 3 issued by Queensland Government. I was informed by one of the senior assessors at AMSA to apply for a Master 24m nc as they do not recognise fishing quals for skilled migration purposes. I was told by the assessor that mine was a unique case and told me to write a cover letter explaining that I had spoken to him regarding my queries. He was very helpful and informative in regards to documents and the process to gaining a positive skills assessment. Only AMSA can answer your question, although they'll probably charge you to answer that question (qualifications assessment). I've PMd you some contacts that might be useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master24m Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Thankyou I received the contact details. Whereas mine are Australian Qualifications where I have already sat the oral and completed the course at great barrier marine college. AMSA recognizes this but immigration still need a skills assessment, and when I've already been assessed and have been working in the occupation as a ships master on a 457. It's very confusing as in both mine and maritime safety Queensland I should nt need the skills assessment and should be treated as domestic and commercial vessels rather than international shipping. Just a question for you captainc as you are very helpful and informative on this forum have you known anybody else with the same situation as mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainC Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) Just a question for you captainc as you are very helpful and informative on this forum have you known anybody else with the same situation as mine. It's very difficult to say. I've never heard of anyone in your position yet. I'm trying to figure out if your experience is going to be considered relevant. In an earlier post you say that you were a watchkeeper, is this a commercial vessel watchkeeper? Did you do this qualification overseas? Edited December 26, 2015 by CaptainC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master24m Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Yes it is a commercial vessel watch keeper but I have no formal qualification as you don't need one on vessels 24m and under but it is stated in my Record of Sea service which has been stamped by MSQ for registered sea time for gaining my skipper grade 3 which I have now converted to Master 24m nc under NSCV Part D. Its very confusing why I would need a skills assessment because I have already been assessed and AMSA already recognizes my qualifications. But that's immigration because I have been told by AMSA that they are willing to write a letter confirming authenticity of my tickets yet immigration still need my skills assessed. Im my opinion the main purpose of a skills assessment is to recognize overseas qualifications and not domestic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainC Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Yes it is a commercial vessel watch keeper but I have no formal qualification as you don't need one on vessels 24m and under but it is stated in my Record of Sea service which has been stamped by MSQ for registered sea time for gaining my skipper grade 3 which I have now converted to Master 24m nc under NSCV Part D. Its very confusing why I would need a skills assessment because I have already been assessed and AMSA already recognizes my qualifications. But that's immigration because I have been told by AMSA that they are willing to write a letter confirming authenticity of my tickets yet immigration still need my skills assessed. Im my opinion the main purpose of a skills assessment is to recognize overseas qualifications and not domestic. It will all be down to AMSA to provide an assessment for the purposes of migration. The only thing you can do is to apply for the assessment on AMSA form 12 and see what happens. AMSA will also make a determination on the experience that you have and it will be on your letter. You may have to sit the AMSA Orals before they will issue a letter. Yours is an unusual situation, but ensure that what you claim, by way of experience, can be backed up by evidence for DIBP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainR Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 You have to appreciate that a skill assessment is different to a qualification assessment, it goes beyond determining your certificate, it's also about analysing an confirming your seatime and experience to provide DIBP with an accurate letter detailing that. Nothing in the published regulations or guidance on the AMSA website explains how they determine this. I would speculatively contact the contacts I provided you with to ask whether your license would be positively assessed as suitable for the immigration skills assessment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master24m Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I appreciate your thoughts CaptainC and CaptainR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master24m Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I will post the outcome on this forum in event of some body else in a similar situation in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master24m Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I have a quiery in regards to lodging an EOI, when I receive the skills assessment back from AMSA, does anybody on this forum know what the expected wait is for an invite on 65 points?? Is it relevant to the occupation or is it purely based on points?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainC Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I have a quiery in regards to lodging an EOI, when I receive the skills assessment back from AMSA, does anybody on this forum know what the expected wait is for an invite on 65 points?? Is it relevant to the occupation or is it purely based on points?? You'll get an invitation on the next available round with 65 points. It's not based on occupation, but on points alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPS Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Hi Fernz How do you go about contacting them and procedures.Please share contact addresses an fees etc. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPS Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Hi Capt R If you could possibly send me through these two to my email. AHP20 Seafarers Handbook for Australian Waters AMSA code of safe working practices for Australian seafarers Your help much appreciated Cheers Orals PreparationDo not underestimate how much revision you will need to do, this is no a small undertaking. Initially you must become familiar with the AMSA website, it contains a vast amount of information. A drop box has been setup with some of the feedback from people who have already taken the oral, please feel free to use this information for your personal use. Ensure you read the 'Read Me' file first before you use any of the documents in the Dropbox. Once you have taken the oral examination , please send your feedback on the exam to CaptainC on the email provided in the Read Me file this will then be posted in the Dropbox and can help future candidates. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/grpoeyxt4zz59ds/AADHbSoNuTBOUpNIIj-dRmQwa?dl=0 You will need to become familiar with the following publications: AHP20 Seafarers Handbook for Australian Waters AMSA code of safe working practices for Australian seafarers Navigation Act 2012 Occupational Health and Safety (Maritime Industry) Act 1993 AMSA Marine Notices AMSA Marine Orders AMSA Website (Pollution, PSC, Environmentally Sensitive Areas, MLC etc) MARPOL SOLAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainC Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Hi Capt R If you could possibly send me through these two to my email. AHP20 Seafarers Handbook for Australian Waters AMSA code of safe working practices for Australian seafarers Your help much appreciated Cheers The Code of safe working practices is in the Dropbox. AHP 20 is not available on PDF, and you'll have to buy it from a chart agent. I got one in the UK fairly easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainR Posted January 3, 2016 Author Share Posted January 3, 2016 The new edition AHP20 is due for publication imminently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aetguy1982 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Hii friends has anyone from India got his AMSA COR recently . What documents were provided for continued competence ?? ..thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainR Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 Continued Competence is the STCW refresher course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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