DawnAndGraeme Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Hi there We are currently on a 457 visa and I am currently still on a temporary contact with my employer. They have told me that they will be ending most Temp contracts soon, and have suggested that they nominate us for a 187 visa the 187 talks about being a pathway for PR? So after we pay AUD5K for the 187 app will we have to pay a further fee for PR application? Can we apply for a PR application straight away (ie not sponsored) does the 187 make the PR more likley to be approved What is the cost involved in the PR application Dawn and Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayinperth Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Check here, answers for your questions are mentioned. it will be different requirement depending on working period under 457. http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/187.aspx Any visa can be approved if you fulfill all visa criteria. You may need to pay for Resident return visa after obtaining PR (until you become citizenship) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozmaniac Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 You've misunderstood the nature of a 187. A 187 IS a permanent visa. Once you have it, you have PR and no further application is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Check here, answers for your questions are mentioned.it will be different requirement depending on working period under 457. 187 is sponsor visa, 186 is not required sponsor tho. http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/187.aspx Any visa can be approved if you fulfill all visa criteria. You may need to pay for Resident return visa after obtaining PR (until you become citizenship) Both the 186 and the 187 require a sponsor! If you can pass the skills assessment you can apply for either if these visas at any time. If not then you must wait until you have been on your 457 visa for two years. The 187 is permanent but you are tied to the sponsor for two years after. If you leave your visa can be cancelled. The 186 is more moral unless they can show you never planned on taking up the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benc Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Hi Dawn and Graeme, Whether your current employer can nominate you for a 187 visa will depend on a number of factors. What is the location of your employment? How long have you been employed by them? What is your occupation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnAndGraeme Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 Hi Dawn and Graeme,Whether your current employer can nominate you for a 187 visa will depend on a number of factors. What is the location of your employment? How long have you been employed by them? What is your occupation? I am a Nurse located in country NSW Employed 2.5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnAndGraeme Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 Ok thanks all for the replies. It has explained a fair bit. I was handed some paperwork from my employer talking about the RSMS scheme (187?) I am not sure if they would sponsor me for the 186 as im in the country. I also don't like the idea of being tied to an employer for a further 2 years, don't get me wrong, i love my job, but i dont know what the future holds, and the opportunity to move elsewhere may arise and from what i have read the 187 would be cancelled if i leave current employer. I had a look at the 189 visa would this be our only option of non sponsored Visa ? and if so could we expect it to be a more strict application than the 187 Thanks again everyone. We joined this forum 3 years ago, and it has been fantastic place to get proper answers from people who know what their talking about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 There is no reason for them not to sponsor you for a 186. It's preferable to a 187 in that it's a bit easier to get all the info for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaggieMay24 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 They may prefer the 187 since it requires you to remain with them for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnAndGraeme Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 They may prefer the 187 since it requires you to remain with them for 2 years. Yes that was my thinking.... what about the 189 visa any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayinperth Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Both the 186 and the 187 require a sponsor! Thanks for correction!! 186 doesn't have 2 years tie, so don't know why I wrote "no sponsor" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozmaniac Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 If you can get a positive skills assessment and 60 points, going for the 189 is an absolute no brainer. Costs the same as the other permanent visas, no sponsorship required and has not a single string attached. You can work anywhere, for anyone, in any occupation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnAndGraeme Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 If you can get a positive skills assessment and 60 points, going for the 189 is an absolute no brainer. Costs the same as the other permanent visas, no sponsorship required and has not a single string attached. You can work anywhere, for anyone, in any occupation. ... Yes, looks like thats they way we are are going.. might have to open a question in the nurse related thread.... but im confused about the ANMAC thing.... In order to practice as a nurse in Australia you need to be registered with APHRA they provide you with your registration. The subclass 189 visa talks about a skills assessment done by ANMAC (just like plumbing is done by TRA) I am hoping this ANMAC thing is for overseas nurses needing their skills assessed as you can apply for 189 visa from overseas. But as i am already registered and have been doing the job that ANMAC assess for surely you would think the "skills test" doesn't apply to me ? It would be a bit silly for that not to be the case? But LOL this is Australia! more red tape wouldn't be a surprise.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozmaniac Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I'm not a nurse, but from many posts on here, I know that if you are already registered with AHPRA, you can apply for a modified assessment from ANMAC. There's no way to avoid the need for skills assessment, but the modified assessment is less expensive and less complex. http://www.anmac.org.au/international-services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benc Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Hi Dawn and Graeme, Keep in mind that if you are interested in a subclass 189 visa, you must first lodge an 'Expression of Interest (EOI)' through 'SkillSelect' and then be invited by the Australian government to lodge an application. An EOI is not a visa application, it is an indication that you would like to be considered for a skilled visa. It is important to remember that meeting the points test mark does not guarantee an invitation to apply. Read 'Booklet 11 - SkillSelect' for more information about the process. You might want to speak to a registered migration agent for some specific advice. Regards, Ben. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnAndGraeme Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 ok just about got it now.. just another quick one... i lets say she gets the 187 and does 2 years work. what happens after that? is she free to work anywhere or does it still need to be regional? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozmaniac Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 ok just about got it now.. just another quick one... i lets say she gets the 187 and does 2 years work. what happens after that? is she free to work anywhere or does it still need to be regional? After 2 years in the regional area on a 187, you are a completely free agent and can work anywhere, for any employer in any occupation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnAndGraeme Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 After 2 years in the regional area on a 187, you are a completely free agent and can work anywhere, for any employer in any occupation. Weighing everything up. It would be silly to pass up the opportunity of a 187 visa. Thats the route we will take (unless the WILL do us a 186 (unlikely)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnAndGraeme Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 Have some additional questions, i would hope somebody would be able to point us in the right direction. Just about to get 186(7) health assessments done for both myself and my husband. I have already conducted my IELTS and received my new TRN from my employer. I am a bit confused on what i i have read about [h=2] Secondary visa application charge (SVA) I could be wrong but this would suggest that my husband (dependent adult) would also need to take this test or pay a huge fine ?[/h] Also does anybody know if you are able to register a company (sole trader) whilst you are on a 187 visa, I am working towards being a fitness instructor (457 doesn't allow employment by anybody else apart from your sponsor ) and would like to do some paid work (in addition to my full time sponsored job) Thanks in advance Dawn and Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raul Senise Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Hi there We are currently on a 457 visa and I am currently still on a temporary contact with my employer. They have told me that they will be ending most Temp contracts soon, and have suggested that they nominate us for a 187 visa If they are ending the temporary contract will they be offering you a permanent contract? They will need to offer you a full-time ongoing position for at least two years for a 187 to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaggieMay24 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Have some additional questions, i would hope somebody would be able to point us in the right direction. Just about to get 186(7) health assessments done for both myself and my husband. I have already conducted my IELTS and received my new TRN from my employer. I am a bit confused on what i i have read about Secondary visa application charge (SVA) I could be wrong but this would suggest that my husband (dependent adult) would also need to take this test or pay a huge fine ? Also does anybody know if you are able to register a company (sole trader) whilst you are on a 187 visa, I am working towards being a fitness instructor (457 doesn't allow employment by anybody else apart from your sponsor ) and would like to do some paid work (in addition to my full time sponsored job) Thanks in advance Dawn and Graeme Your husband needs to prove he has Functional English (http://www.border.gov.au/about/corporate/information/faqs/how-can-i-prove-i-have-functional-english), otherwise you pay the secondary fee of $4,890 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnAndGraeme Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 Thanks MaggieMay from border.gov.au Home > About Us > Corporate information > Fact sheets and forms [h=1]How can I prove I have functional English?[/h]To prove that you have functional English you must provide evidence of one of the following: You are the holder of a valid passport issued by the United Kingdom, the United States of America, Canada, New Zealand, or the Republic of Ireland and you are a citizen of that country. Currently on a UK passport as a UK citizen. So passport is all thats required right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isabelj28 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Yes, that's right. Copy of your husbands current passport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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