Guest guest30085 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Long may you chuckle away then Life way to short too carry a frown. Just for you a spot of daring then. Just don't tell the gang. Saw a wonderful sunset sinking into the Indian Ocean the other night from Cot Beach. Not unusual though. There doneThere, just that, finding something joyful about your surroundings. There's nothing better than natures own beauty. See, there is positivity in everyone (it was only meant as a flippant remark, no offence intended by the way). Back to your comment though. That nasty, negative Flag, doesn't concern himself with Poms in Perth, so folk can run riot on that forum, expressing the delights in the most Disney like version they wish without any reality interruptions or alternative perspectives from that horrid fellow with subversive and darn right insensitive views. For the record, I'm not on Perth Poms or any of the other forums of similar vein, although I am intending to settle there. I am also a realist and understand that nothing will be handed to me on a plate. I'm not afraid of hard work, but I still understand that there may be difficulty with gaining employment before I can get my shiny car and 4 x 2 brand new house. I appreciate and take in both positive and negative views, but that is all down to individual experience. All good then. The pm's and Face Book connections can surely enhance the desired positive commentary. When all else fails there is the ignore button of course. Something I would refrain from using even with the most obnoxious poster, but I won't feel in any way offended towards those that choose such a path. I have no wish to put you on ignore, as I don't find you offensive, but I do find you negative, and I wondered if you do ever find anything good about where you chose to live. I don't know your circumstances but do wonder if you are in the right place for you? You don't have to answer, but sometimes you have to be more positive as life drags you down anyway, so you have to do something to counteract the sh!te. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest 47403 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Well they certainly wouldn't be dull. Stimulating would be a possible term. There are places for fun, whatever your idea of that may be. Please refrain from prejudging someone who you don't know and never will. With some people the consistent style of there posts paints the picture clearly enough no prejudging what so ever. Damn does that mean you'll be watching from around the corner (again) at any future Perth meet ups........................gutted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I have no wish to put you on ignore, as I don't find you offensive, but I do find you negative, and I wondered if you do ever find anything good about where you chose to live. I don't know your circumstances but do wonder if you are in the right place for you? You don't have to answer, but sometimes you have to be more positive as life drags you down anyway, so you have to do something to counteract the sh!te. Save your wondering for more important things that actually do play a part in your life. No I am perfectly in the right place for those that have voiced concern that I may be somehow ship wrecked in some sort of way. Life doesn't drag me down in any shape or form. I would suspect it is due to having a healthy regard for reality and as such I have to do nothing to counter act what you refer to as sh?te. Actually I am hardly negative just giving a little additional insight into realties that are to often ignored or fobbed off on the forum. As stated I don't touch Poms in Perth, so feel free to write your version there without any rebuttal from me. Of course do feel free to critique any error you feel in turn with regards my contribution. You could alternatively allow an alternative version to the Adonna and Bazz view of life and place your view without comment. I don't tend to critique those that hold Mary Poppins view of things at a personal level and as such an never sure why those that abhor the alternative view, be that negative in their eyes, to perpetuate in many personal comments. Still no one said life was easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 With some people the consistent style of there posts paints the picture clearly enough no prejudging what so ever. Damn does that mean you'll be watching from around the corner (again) at any future Perth meet ups........................gutted! Nothing better to do than make dumb ar.. comment.What an intellectual time bomb you must be. As for future meet ups hold them in my back yard and you'll know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kungfustu Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/western-australia-still-on-top-for-economic-performance/story-e6frflo9-1226805464388 No surprise there but what did surprise me that NT is second - perhaps somewhere often overlooked by migrants. "for how much longer" is the question on everyones lips....... http://au.pfinance.yahoo.com/education/investing/article/-/21673006/fears-aussie-dollar-could-hit-new-lows I wouldn't say the high prices signify success. I do see a greed culture in Perth where everyone thinks it acceptable to charge OTT prices whether it be a pint of lager or a house but as far as the economy goes it is keeping its head comfortably above water. Will the bubble burst? Who knows..I just go with the flow. Nothings changed there then......we suffered a similar experience ten years or more ago..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Pom Queen Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 For goodness sake, let's stop the personal attacks. It happened on a thread yesterday and is starting up again now, anymore and we will be looking at infractions as we can't keep tidying threads up and closing them the way we are. Just because someone has a different view to yours doesn't make it wrong, nor does it make yours wrong. Can we please stop the ganging up as that's what keeps happening at the moment. Flag - We don't own Poms in Perth in fact I'm not sure there is one anymore, its Perth poms. Also, yes I am disappointed we didn't get the chance to catch up, but knowing how nervous I was about the meet I fully understand why it was probably daunting to join in with the oldies :tongue: not that we are old but I know a Perth poms member said something about middle aged women! damn I thought I was still 21 until he said that :cry: Now all can we please let it drop about Flag and the get together, a lot of people didn't come for various reasons doesn't make it right or wrong, and I bet Flag wasn't alone I'm sure there were a few others sat in the sidelines that night. Again if this dig at flag for the meet continues I will look at issuing warnings. Now please back to the topic :hug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee13 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Yeah back on topic WA must be doing great. 2 million big ones pledged to boost the tourist economy and get more numbers into our oceans because our beaches should be really really clear of those pesky dangerous biteys, how dare they bite our kind on average of 0.785 per year...since Y2K, the year they all said would end..but I just pinched meself...and guesswhat Ahhhrrgh someone just pressed my cynical button... pls spank me ladies... :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight7 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Perth definitely needs people with their eyes open to negatives as well as positives. Otherwise the place will never improve and just wallow in mediocrity. The place has so many natural assets it is time it developed beyond the boring and bland- and it needs people with a bit of drive to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Pom Queen Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 This is now your second warning after more reported posts. I have deleted another 9 posts which is such a shame as it could have made good reading if it wasn't filled with personal insults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinsmom65 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Just another reminder to keep on topic. Perhaps some members might want to reread the rules of this forum. Cheers Karen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaclec Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 OK no mention of England's underclass this time. But Flag does have a point with regard to the economic outlook here. There are a lot of people struggling for work in Perth currently, Some of the big union construction companies are trying to cut there workers wages as they cant win the work anymore. Household debt is one of the highest in the world, rental vacancys are rising which means an oversupply of investment properties, lowest ever amount of first time homebuyers on record, no major mining projects in the pipeline, The construction of mine sites is what creates booms and jobs not normal operations. Tough times are coming to utopia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Perth definitely needs people with their eyes open to negatives as well as positives. Otherwise the place will never improve and just wallow in mediocrity. The place has so many natural assets it is time it developed beyond the boring and bland- and it needs people with a bit of drive to do this. Very true of course. Away with the naval gazing and self righteous indignation, by those of considerate number that continue unabated to keep the place programmed back to the future. This city should be oozing with a wider, more diverse range of folk, capable of lifting the city to greater heights. Away with the parochial and conservative complacency, what this place needs is an edge. It needs quirkiness and more folk less mainstream, that can turn this city around, from a place built on envy and greed and competition over material pursuits , a non untypical American Mid Western city and disengage from Bogan dictation of values to something far more interesting, soulful and rewarding. The recent Fringe and Festival of Perth, along with the Writers Festival was certainly steps in the right direction. With such uncritical mass no wonder Perth fails to reach its potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1977 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 OK no mention of England's underclass this time. But Flag does have a point with regard to the economic outlook here. There are a lot of people struggling for work in Perth currently, Some of the big union construction companies are trying to cut there workers wages as they cant win the work anymore. Household debt is one of the highest in the world, rental vacancys are rising which means an oversupply of investment properties, lowest ever amount of first time homebuyers on record, no major mining projects in the pipeline, The construction of mine sites is what creates booms and jobs not normal operations. Tough times are coming to utopia. Correct colin, I work for ( so I'm told and rightly so ) the best electrical company in WA. We're on the highest EBA agreement in the country and were being told of up to 20-25% pay cut ( at worse, long explanation ) the boom is over and reality is kicking in. Your right in saying about the bigger firms not being able to compeat ... The smaller ( bad paying ) firms are getting bigger because the big money isn't there as it used to be and people will take the jobs which I understand.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaclec Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Wages will start to fall here over time i suspect in real terms, just wait till the inevitable interest rate rise happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Who determines Perths potential? I see a place that is pretty content with where its been and where its going, the city doesnt need the approval of those who see nothing good here. (as determined by its growth) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 OK no mention of England's underclass this time. But Flag does have a point with regard to the economic outlook here. There are a lot of people struggling for work in Perth currently, Some of the big union construction companies are trying to cut there workers wages as they cant win the work anymore. Household debt is one of the highest in the world, rental vacancys are rising which means an oversupply of investment properties, lowest ever amount of first time homebuyers on record, no major mining projects in the pipeline, The construction of mine sites is what creates booms and jobs not normal operations. Tough times are coming to utopia. Pack of cards some say. WA has lived a lot on luck and having the available resources required by the world's greatest growing power. This state would have had to be more than dense to not having profited from a once in a lifetime global occurrence. Prior to the boom in the early 00's, WA was struggling somewhat. I recall the suggestion that Perth would be little more than a branch office as the Eastern States was where what happened really countered. I recall the house prices being another attraction to WA. A one bedroom flat in inner city for $38,000 purchased from a Swiss guy who became dissatisfied with life in OZ and returned home. That was cheap though, even for the time. I could go on as bargains galore. Trade folk were cheap to employ in 00, prior to the Howard government First Home Grant. Degree holders going on the dole. I can only but smile at those that arrived on these shores in recent years and consider the past years as the norm. Casino politics continue unabated at least in my eyes and the politicians at least are constant in not having a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I think a lot of people dont analyse past trends and just 'live' Theres a lot to be said for living in the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 OK no mention of England's underclass this time. But Flag does have a point with regard to the economic outlook here. There are a lot of people struggling for work in Perth currently, Some of the big union construction companies are trying to cut there workers wages as they cant win the work anymore. Household debt is one of the highest in the world, rental vacancys are rising which means an oversupply of investment properties, lowest ever amount of first time homebuyers on record, no major mining projects in the pipeline, The construction of mine sites is what creates booms and jobs not normal operations. Tough times are coming to utopia. I fully understand how England's underclass, not a term I'd use but working class coming perhaps from council estates, grey skies and poor prospects are rightly defensive of their adopted country . Land and swimming pool would have been beyond many folk's wildest dreams. Perpetual blue skies, the beach, everything shinny and new, I really get it and don't mean to sound ferocious, but that is not al there is. We can and indeed have the right of living in a rich country and state far more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Most migrants left the UK for some gain..be it social, financial or other perceived benefit. Nothing wrong with going with the flow where and when it suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaclec Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I think a lot of people dont analyse past trends and just 'live' Theres a lot to be said for living in the moment Tell that to the poor buggers in the US and UK who bought houses at the peak of the market and found themselves in negative equity and facing paycuts or even worse redundancy with massive mortgage payments. WA has a lot of similarities with those economies circa 2007-08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Tell that to the poor buggers in the US and UK who bought houses at the peak of the market and found themselves in negative equity and facing paycuts or even worse redundancy with massive mortgage payments. WA has a lot of similarities with those economies circa 2007-08 You win some..you lose some..buying property is a risk..no? A cautionary person would buy a property well within their means for less than the market value. If you overstretch yourself...well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaclec Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I fully understand how England's underclass, not a term I'd use but working class coming perhaps from council estates, grey skies and poor prospects are rightly defensive of their adopted country . Land and swimming pool would have been beyond many folk's wildest dreams. Perpetual blue skies, the beach, everything shinny and new, I really get it and don't mean to sound ferocious, but that is not al there is. We can and indeed have the right of living in a rich country and state far more. To someone who earns around $20k pa in the UK and lives in an a small terraced house to come here and be paid around $60-$70k and live in a shed i mean bungalow it may seem like paradise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I think a lot of people dont analyse past trends and just 'live' Theres a lot to be said for living in the moment Hardly the case for those with a mortgage, concerned about interest rates, on short tern contracts, on casual contracts, a health worker about to lose your job due to WA government cutbacks, one of the 17.5% youth unemployed in the Peel (Mandurah) Region, struggling to afford ones first house in a grossly inflated housing market or for that matter looking for a job in a very competitive job market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1977 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Who determines Perths potential? I see a place that is pretty content with where its been and where its going, the city doesnt need the approval of those who see nothing good here. (as determined by its growth) Because people don't like change here..! Typical WA attitude.. People who have an opinion need not apply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaclec Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 You win some..you lose some..buying property is a risk..no? A cautionary person would buy a property well within their means for less than the market value. If you overstretch yourself...well.... But people do don't they? Because they will never lose they are told, They forget that interest rates are at an all time low and don't think what will happen should they go up 3%. they think oh my house has gone up $200k lets remortgage and buy a boat and a holiday. Oz has higher debt per household than UK and US ever did but hey i am sure it will be fine the sun shines and wages are high here.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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