Bimbobread Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Calling all teachers in Australia or on their way... Where is the best place to find available teaching jobs in Victoria? Are there any good supply agencies? We're still in the process of applying for 190 visa but I'm aware the jobs for term 1 are starting to come out! Any advice would be greatly appreciated. A x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvesaussie Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Hi, try this. http://www.independentschools.com.au/ you need to get yourself registered with the teaching institue in Victoria before you can really start looking for work. I think its still too early for Term 1 jobs 2013, August/Sep time best time for that I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimbobread Posted May 15, 2013 Author Share Posted May 15, 2013 Ah great thanks for your speedy response. That's good to know I read someone already had a job for term 1! Am I right in thinking you need you visa to register with VIT? Thanks again. This is such a fab forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvesaussie Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I think that would be unusual, a lot of schools wont know yet who is quiting / moving on next year etc. I have been following teaching discussions on here for a year or so and most people are saying Aug/Sep is when the jobs start to get advertised for next year. Not many people think 6 months in advance . I am not sure about the visa situation, I would guess you can apply for registration before your visa is granted. My girlfriends visa has not been granted but she has applied for registration (not granted yet). You have to get a lot of stuff together for registration, certified copies of all sorts of paperwork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimbobread Posted May 15, 2013 Author Share Posted May 15, 2013 Ok that's amazing - super helpful! I will have a look at the VIT registration. I'm glad the jobs don't come out until then... Hopefully il be closer to getting to OZ by then. I hope your girlfriend hears soon. It's such a long process - I'm continually checking my emails! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petals Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I am the doom and gloom on teaching, mainly because I have two in my family and know a bit about how it all works. Maths and science no probs although my son told me recently people are hanging on to their jobs at the present time. Our teachers retire then get re-employed as temp teachers or on one year contracts, so they take up a lot of jobs. Our graduate teachers start looking in August and September for jobs. They are sought after as they are cheaper to hire than experienced teachers. There are not many permanent positions as teachers in the State School system, why because you have to earn them these days. My son spent three years in an outback country school to so he could be a permanent teacher. That means he is employed by the Education department. However that does not mean he can move schools without having to go on a contract, he may be asked to take a one year contract and then go permanent or he will return to the school he was teaching at as permanent. Its complicated. A lot of positions are maternity leave positions and therefore fill in one year positions. Some of the jobs on the Education Web site that appear as vacancies, have a contract teacher in place, who may be asked to do another contract so even though people apply they know who is going to be doing the job. Once you are in the education system word of mouth works just like a lot of occupations in Aus. The applications are very comprehensive and detailed as well. The money is not great in the public system so dedication is needed. In fact living in the country has its advantages as its cheaper to live, buy a house etc. My son chooses to live in the country because on his wage he can have a better standard of living than he would have if he lived in Melbourne with all the transport costs, higher housing costs etc. Plus he says country kids are good kids. Good luck just learn the way it all works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositivePixie Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 The money is not great in the public system so dedication is needed. Bit of a personal opinion thing though really - I believe VIC pay is better than SA (where I am) and teachers here range from $65K (as a NQT type with no experience) to $85K I believe as 'just' a classroom teacher (not 100% sure of the top range I've worked it all out for me on around $70K as I don't know if I can prove all my years teaching experience, as I moved around a bit and don't have the full 8 years TP contributions proof). Even on bottom pay is way way way more than I would ever earn in the UK on £31K as my max wage after around 8 years teaching (yes, I know there is UPS in UK, but it wasn't something that was going to happen, and I'm certainly not management material). If you can get a perm contract, imho the wage is amazing. Supply (CRT) wages seem to be pretty good in the short term as well, even through an agency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjg Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Calling all teachers in Australia or on their way... Where is the best place to find available teaching jobs in Victoria? Are there any good supply agencies? We're still in the process of applying for 190 visa but I'm aware the jobs for term 1 are starting to come out! Any advice would be greatly appreciated. A x The most important thing to do is to get registered with the VIT. Your subject specialism, as petals has said, will greatly influence how hard and far you will have to look to find a job. You will most likely only be offered a one year contract. Some places will offer more, but you have to be outstanding, or a long way away from anywhere else! What do you teach? Where are you looking at living? Answering these will give people a better idea of how and what to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimbobread Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 Thanks! I made an account with VIT last night and will start gathering the information they need for registration. I am still awaiting the results of my skills assessment but from the looks of it I don't need to have that back to register as I have my certificates to prove my qualifications. I am a MFL teacher (French, Spanish and German) but have also taught English, Maths and Science at Secondary Level. I am hoping to come to Victoria on a 190 visa (perhaps the Melbourne/ Mornington Peninsula are) as we have family there. However I am willing to work more regional if it means I will be able to get a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 I think that would be unusual, a lot of schools wont know yet who is quiting / moving on next year etc. I have been following teaching discussions on here for a year or so and most people are saying Aug/Sep is when the jobs start to get advertised for next year. Not many people think 6 months in advance . I am not sure about the visa situation, I would guess you can apply for registration before your visa is granted. My girlfriends visa has not been granted but she has applied for registration (not granted yet). You have to get a lot of stuff together for registration, certified copies of all sorts of paperwork You have to have a visa before registration will be granted. However, you can start collecting all the paperwork now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndham Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Be aware that the goalposts for overseas teachers getting fully registered teacher status were moved at the start of the year, you will probably have to go in at provisional status and then have to get the experience and evidence to upgrade to fully qualified. From the VIT website, ( http://www.vit.vic.edu.au/professionalpractice/article.aspx?id=1 ) "From 1 January 2013, if you are applying for full registration and have evidence of previous teaching experience of at least 80 days in an Australian or New Zealand school and can provide a reference from a principal in an Australian or New Zealand school that indicates you meet the National Standards, we can grant you immediate full registration. If you are applying for full registration and your evidence of at least 80 days previous teaching experience is from a country other than Australia or New Zealand, then on assessment of your evidence we may grant you provisional registration (experienced). After 80 days work in an Australian or New Zealand school (or equivalent workplace) you can apply for full registration using a process for experienced teachers." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvesaussie Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 oh right I didn't realise that thanks for pointing that out. I havent seen that mentioned before guess my girlfriend is not going to get full registration then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimbobread Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 Ah fab, thanks for that! there is so much reading and collating to do! Getting advice on here is really helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md0u10fd Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Hi I teach Science and am moving to Victoria in November. I got my visa in February and got a job in a private school (interview in London) in April. It was the first one I applied for!! I can't speak for other subjects but I found it quite easy to find a job. I think they like UK teachers and emphasise any work you've done on developing curricula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimbobread Posted May 17, 2013 Author Share Posted May 17, 2013 Congrats! Where did you see it advertised? I hope all goes well with the preparations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md0u10fd Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Hi I used to www.independentschools.com.au to find my job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimbobread Posted May 23, 2013 Author Share Posted May 23, 2013 Thanks md0u10fd it seems a good place to start. Just have to get my VIT registration sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvesaussie Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Hi, we have had a great couple of days, girlfriends partner visa was granted yesterday, and she just got a letter in the mail saying shes been granted FULL registration, it left australia 10 days ago, so BEFORE the visa was granted. So you can still get full registration, and you dont need a visa to be registered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimbobread Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 Hi, we have had a great couple of days, girlfriends partner visa was granted yesterday, and she just got a letter in the mail saying shes been granted FULL registration, it left australia 10 days ago, so BEFORE the visa was granted.So you can still get full registration, and you dont need a visa to be registered.Great congratulations!! That's so exciting. Has she registered with an agency yet? I registered with Smart teachers and they seem really on the ball.Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight7 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I think you would need to go for the science teaching- don't think there would be too much demand for language teachers ( unless you can teach Chinese or Indonesian) The private sector would be your best bet. It is strange that they are giving jobs to teachers from overseas when a lot of locals can't get permanent jobs, though. A bit annoying for those of us with family members and friends looking for work. Not your fault of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjg Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 . It is strange that they are giving jobs to teachers from overseas when a lot of locals can't get permanent jobs, though. A bit annoying for those of us with family members and friends looking for work. Not your fault of course. If an immigrant has the right to teach, the schools cannot discriminate about where their potential staff come from. The job will go to the best qualified, or most experienced or most impressive applicant. Which is as it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 If an immigrant has the right to teach, the schools cannot discriminate about where their potential staff come from. The job will go to the best qualified, or most experienced or most impressive applicant. Which is as it should be. ...and to be fair, most jobs do go to people already here, so really it's not a 'problem'. It is actually very hard for teachers newly arrived in the country to get a position. Even harder for those already here to get off temporary contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimbobread Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 That's the same as in England but I am looking forward to the quality of life in Oz over England. Surfing at the weekends will get me through. Thanks for your insights though, it is good to know that its not going to be easy(so I can prepare myself for the dreading applications). However we are willing to live wherever we get work so hopefully that will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 That's the same as in England but I am looking forward to the quality of life in Oz over England. Surfing at the weekends will get me through. Thanks for your insights though, it is good to know that its not going to be easy(so I can prepare myself for the dreading applications). However we are willing to live wherever we get work so hopefully that will help. It really is not the same as the UK, it is a hundred times harder to get a position here. However, being informed before you come and being prepared for the realities is a good thing. Persistence is the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimbobread Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 Thank you, do you teach? It's great to get as much advice as possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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