LittleRebecca Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I am considering studying Nursing in Australia (well I started but dropped out). Would I be better studying in the UK or Australia with regards to getting a long term visa for Australia? I was 28 in Feb so I reckon my age will also be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I know of one person who studied nursing in Australia then ended up having to leave. I can't remember the exact reasons. Personally I would do it in the uk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRebecca Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 OMG be good to know why! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 It was something to do with not being able to work. I was studying something totally different, so not sure, but it was in the news not long after that there were loads of student nurses here in sa and not enough places for them to go to when they finished. I think there is a work component to the studying which there weren't enough places for? If you have a google for sa you might be able to find an old news article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichway1 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I would do it in the UK the AUstralian Nursing Qualification is not recognised in that many places. Whereas the UK one is. For example, an Australian nurse can't necessarily work in the UK. With my UK nursing qualification I have worked in UK, NZ and AUstralia. Also, UK trained nurses are quite sought after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRebecca Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 The ANF is aware that new nursing graduates are not being offered jobs. In Tasmania, only 30% of nurse graduates have been employed, in Queensland only 10%, 50% in South Australia and 800 nurse graduates are without employment in Victoria. Hmmmm. I wonder why UK Nurses are sought after? Any evidence? Maybe I should think about the UK and going to the Middle East away from Melb weather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichway1 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Sorry the word I was looking for is transferable, the UK nursing qualification is more transferable to different countries. Many people believe UK nurses are trained better. TBH, I know lots of people might not be happy with this statement, but where I worked in Oz, the nursing students were given no responsibility at all, basically they were qualifying having never done anything by themselves, and I include tasks such as simple washing and dressing, because they weren't allowed. I am not saying they are lesser nurses because they certainly are not, but they spent hardly any time on placement, compared to UK nurses, were always supernumery and like I said were never given any opportunity to take some responsibility. It is much more academia based than it is experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRebecca Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 Ok. I started the Masters in Nursing Science and we were going to do 800 hours in placement over the two years I think. There was a lot of science - we had to know a lot about the body. I have messaged new graduates in England (Facebook friends) and they managed the course, so I am hoping I can. Obviously you would know better than I what it is like. I hope I get accepted to a course in the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichway1 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 You will manage the course. and your age won't be a problem. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRebecca Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 In short, would your best method to get an Aus visa - study in UK and apply for a visa and wait? I love my time in Australia, I have been here 3.5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichway1 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 You know, when I trained 10 years ago, I worked out I did about 900 hours every year of placement (more in the final year) and I have just realised I sound like one of those old nurses because, EVEN THEN, all the older nurses used to say " you lot spend far too much time at University and not enough time on the wards" :eek: jeezo, I have become my worst nightmare. In a way though, I did feel in Oz that some of the students were desperate to be let loose and get in the thick of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 The UK, australian fees are so high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRebecca Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 The UK, australian fees are so high Yes, it would drain my savings but I would make friends and I thought it would help me with applying for the visa for Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I'm sure that a nurse trained in Aus would be able to have their skills recognised by the NMC to gain registration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRebecca Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 You know, when I trained 10 years ago, I worked out I did about 900 hours every year of placement (more in the final year) and I have just realised I sound like one of those old nurses because, EVEN THEN, all the older nurses used to say " you lot spend far too much time at University and not enough time on the wards" :eek: jeezo, I have become my worst nightmare. In a way though, I did feel in Oz that some of the students were desperate to be let loose and get in the thick of it. Ok. I am not exactly sure what exactly nurses do in Aus V UK but they were trying to teach us the Science behind how medications work and how the injury/illness effects the body... is that the same in your opinion? Thanks for the replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichway1 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichway1 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I'm sure that a nurse trained in Aus would be able to have their skills recognised by the NMC to gain registration. The student nurses I worked with in QLD were not able to register in the UK once qualified. Even with post reg experience. The reason is (or was as it may have changed) that to be a nurse in the UK you require a certain amount of practice placement hours as a student. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRebecca Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 @Whichway1 is it ok the other way around.... UK nurses can work worldwide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichway1 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I don't know, but I know they can work in Australia and NZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maruska Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I would say if you`ve spent 3.5 years in Australia and you`re sure that`s where you want to live than study in Australia. It will most probably NOT help you with gaining a visa, however you are on every state`s skilled list and can apply for your own. Who knows, you MIGHT get someone to sponsor you even as a new grad on 457 ( lots of uncertainty with this one). During your clinicals you`ll have a chance to meet people who will potentially hire you ( I got offered a job after my clinical placement, even before graduation). As new grad unemployment goes, I don`t know how the situation is in the UK but it`s not great in the US and I imagine is pretty much the same everywhere, plenty of demand for experienced nurses, zero for new grads:confused:. I`ve worked with australian nurses in the Middle East and they certainly knew what they`re doing. Their education isn`t any worse than other first world countries` IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maruska Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 The student nurses I worked with in QLD were not able to register in the UK once qualified. Even with post reg experience. The reason is (or was as it may have changed) that to be a nurse in the UK you require a certain amount of practice placement hours as a student. Can they gain registration once they`ve worked for a while ( let`s say 2 years) in Australia? Or not even then? Might make a massive difference to OP if she wasn`t able to come back to UK as a nurse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRebecca Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 Thanks x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichway1 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I don't know, I only know that they couldn't register straight after qualifying. The best bet would be to flick the NMC an email as it may be different in different states etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichway1 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 In the UK atm, there are plenty of newly qualified nurses not getting jobs . Which is sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRebecca Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 I don't know, I only know that they couldn't register straight after qualifying. The best bet would be to flick the NMC an email as it may be different in different states etc. SO many decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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