Andrea-Familyof5

As title suggests - have the opportunity to live and work in both places. Which is better? Anyone with any local knowledge?

Hello! Me again As the title says really! At what point in your teacher accreditation journey did you have to verify your identity in person at a ‘service centre’ (whatever they are!)? As in - when obtaining your WWCC, your NESA teacher accreditation, or your Approval to Teach? I’ve wrote this on my notes but can’t find the info online. I know all docs have to be certified copies, but at what point did you need to physically have your ID checked in person? As always, thank you!

Thank you so much for your reply. I will definitely look into this. RE: area; no idea! No family or friends in Aus, never been, just desperate for an adventure and to try something new! Could do with advice re places to avoid though, if you know the state? Next on my ‘to do’ list! Knowing my luck, I’ll land us in the most deprived, economically-challenged, crime-ridden area in the whole of Aus!!

Thanks Quoll - this is what I’d gathered so great to have confirmed!

Hi Ben, I’ve pestered you on another thread about this - sorry! I really need to be able to work as soon as we land too. We have 3 children also and no friends/family over there. Were you able to go to the Embassy because of the state? We’re heading to NSW (sponsored on a 190). Do you know where I’d find out more info about this? You’re the only person I’ve come across to mention this! Have considered going to Aus on my own to try and do as much of the registration as possible, but it would cost me about £4k just to do this, so if I could do the equivalent round the corner, that would be magic!

Hello, I’m after the equivalent to the UK’s National Curriculum Programme of Study for English, for secondary school only (our KS3 and 4, or years 7-11). Does anyone have a link so I can make sure I’m looking at the right thing? I’ve googled but keep getting info for K-2; not sure what that even means? Is it Kindergarten to Y2 or something? As you can tell, I’m clueless right now so really need to be familiarising myself with what is covered in English in secondary schools in New South Wales. Any links to the above and useful websites much appreciated! Xx Edited to add: what about exam boards? Is there a most popular one used? Again, for English and looking at the state of NSW only.

Morning all. So I’ve just posted on the teaching thread but hoped I might get more of a response if I start a new thread. We were granted our 190 NSW Sponsored visas on 4.11.22. We’ve sold our house now (no chain!) so can be heading out sooner rather than later (just waiting on the dogs’ health certificates to come back ). With three kids, ideally I’d have a job to go straight into. This would also help with location - we don’t know anyone over there and haven’t ever visited (), so can live/work anywhere in NSW. A job ahead of leaving would give us a good idea of where to start looking for an Airbnb and then, later, a rental until we know where we’d like to live long term. Anyway, I think I’m getting a little confused with all the different processes that need to be completed before you can teach in NSW, and would really appreciate someone in the know checking over if I’ve got the following correct, and answering some of my questions. I’ve copied and pasted from the other thread: —————————————————————————— I need 3 things - (1) a Working With Children Check (2) NESA accreditation (3) Approval to Teach. I need them in this order because Approval to Teach states ‘You must be accredited with NESA before submitting your application for approval to teach with DoE’, and NESA accreditation states that, in order to apply, ‘You’ll need to have a current NSW Working with Children Check (WWCC) clearance for paid employment issued by the NSW Office of the Children’s Guardian’. So WWCC is my first step. Is this all correct so far?? Starting my application for a NSW Working with Children Check is where the first hurdle comes as I need a residential address in Australia, and an Australian mobile number. So my questions, really, are: can I go over before we leave as a family of 5 ‘officially’, staying in an Airbnb and use the Airbnb address as the residential address in Aus? I read an earlier post where the OP did just that, but don’t they send paperwork/info to that address, or is it literally just for the system? Do I need to get an Australian mobile number when there also? Lastly, how far along this process - WWCC, NESA accreditation, Approval to Teach - can be done whilst visiting, realistically? How long should I book to stay? Or, should I say, for how much of the process do I need to be in Aus? At what point do I verify identify at a service centre? Or am I just being stupid and should resign myself to not being able to get started on this process and thus secure a job (casual, relief) before we leave for good as a family? Sorry for the bombardment of questions! ANY help/advice/words of wisdom MUCH appreciated! Xx

Me again! Sorry, can I please clarify as think I’m a little confused with the terminology/processes: I need 3 things - (1) a Working With Children Check (2) NESA accreditation (3) Approval to Teach. I need them in this order because Approval to Teach states ‘You must be accredited with NESA before submitting your application for approval to teach with DoE’, and NESA accreditation states that, in order to apply, ‘You’ll need to have a current NSW Working with Children Check (WWCC) clearance for paid employment issued by the NSW Office of the Children’s Guardian’. So WWCC is my first step. Starting my application for a NSW Working with Children Check is where the first hurdle comes as I need a residential address in Australia, and an Australian mobile number. So my question, really, is, can I go over before we leave as a family of 5 ‘officially’, staying in an Airbnb and use the Airbnb address as the residential address in Aus? I read an earlier post where the OP did just that, but don’t they send paperwork/info to that address, or is it literally just for the system? Do I need to get an Australian mobile number when there also? Lastly, how far along this process - WWCC, NESA accreditation, Approval to Teach - can be done whilst visiting, realistically? How long should I book to stay? Or, should I say, for how much of the process do I need to be in Aus? At what point do I verify identify at a service centre? Or am I just being stupid and should resign myself to not being able to get started on this process and thus secure a job (casual, relief) before we leave for good as a family? Sorry for the bombardment of questions! ANY help/advice/words of wisdom MUCH appreciated! Xx

klr81, thank you for replying! At what point did you manage to secure a job? Did you go over without and then applied for WWCC and then AtT once you landed? What address did you use for your WWCC? How did you apply - logistically - for the job without the other ‘compulsory’ bits needed on the application? I hope that makes sense!

Hi Benj1980, Can you explain how you did this from the UK and without going out to Aus first to get the WWCC and Approval to Teach? I’d love to do the latter but it’s a very long way and lots of extra £s if I can do in London which is around the corner from me! Many thanks in advance x

Hello again, Can someone please confirm what this means please? Still trying to see if I can get around the whole needing to live/have an Australian address before I can apply for the Working With Children Check/WWCC and then Approval to Teach, before I can apply for jobs in NSW! I read this as, yes, you can apply for temp positions as long as you have had your visa granted? (Which we have now. And we’ve sold our house. Would be the icing on the cake to get something lined up before we fly out!). I am an international student. Can international students apply for approval to teach? Yes, you can apply for casual and temporary teaching approval provided you hold a valid visa for employment in Australia. You will not be eligible for full approval to teach or permanent employment if you do not hold Australian citizenship or permanent residency.

Hello everyone! Our skilled 190 sponsored visas were granted 4.11.22. Our state is NSW. I understand that I can’t begin to apply for teaching positions until I have Approval to Teach and a Working With Children Check/WWCC, which I can’t do from the UK as we need an Australian address and to be able to verify identity at a service centre. My question therefore is: did anyone go over alone (as in, within family who have also been granted visas) simply to start the process of getting AtT and the WWCC? If so, are you able to use an Airbnb address or would I have to secure a rental first? I’ve read that it takes approximately 8 weeks - would I need to stay until the paperwork came through? Like the majority of people looking at NSW, it is a little daunting not being able to secure even some relief work before arriving and I hoped to be working sooner than the 8 weeks on average it takes just to get registered. I follow a family on YouTube and the main applicant used their hotel address and managed to secure a term’s worth of work within just a few days of landing. Any advice much appreciated xx

This is not what I’m saying at all. Because my 190 state sponsored visa is close to being granted (fingers crossed), and with that application comes the positive Skills Assessment, proof of qualifications and work history, tonnes of letters proving my past employment with children, Police Check, Health Clearance, etc, etc, you’d think there would be a way to apply for jobs only in the state that has offered sponsorship and has thus requested all these docs already without having to apply for another check of some kind (i.e., part of the AtT is the WWCC which involves a Police Check which I’ve already done…). I’m talking about applying for jobs in a state that has said they want me to go to work in! Jeez. I’m not asking to go and ‘work there legally without holding a visa with work rights’. I’m not a visa expert and know I haven’t explained all this correctly, but I think you knew full well what I was asking. I don’t think your reply is necessary, kind or helpful. And here was me thinking this forum was a friendly place to seek advice. Boy was I wrong. I won’t be doing it again, nor will I be responding to your inevitable condescending reply.

Ahh, OK, thank you. Seems bonkers to me when that state is sponsoring me to work there and they have the job vacancies, especially considering all the other hoops you jump through to get to this final stage of waiting, but, hey, what’s a bit more waiting gonna hurt?!?

Hello! We submitted our application on 15th April and all 5 of us have had full health clearance now (husband has a wonky head so this was an issue!). NSW is the state. I’m wanting to start applying for teaching positions now, ideally. Is this possible? From what I’ve read, in order to apply for anything in NSW, I need Approval to Teach, which involves a Working With Children Check/WWCC, amongst other scary sounding tests and assessments, etc. But in order to get this Approval to Teach, I need to already be living in Oz/have PR/an address/a working visa. Can anyone shed any light on this, pretty please? The good old ‘tinternet is sending me in circles. Find it hard to believe that this isn’t something that I can be sorting now while we are waiting for our visas, which seem to be pretty much guaranteed at this stage? Thank you from a very dizzy Andrea!