Guest sivakumar Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I can't believe it, but it is true....... I was the first person to found....... Here we go............................ http://www.dtwd.wa.gov.au/dtwd/detcms/navigation/workforce-development-plan/ :jiggy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sue1203 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Hi ya I too also saw that and I can't believe it but I can't open the list up...do you have a link to it??? S x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sivakumar Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Hi ya I too also saw that and I can't believe it but I can't open the list up...do you have a link to it??? S x Wait for 10min, but the list is not a happy one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H & M Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I can't believe it, but it is true.......:jiggy: OMG I've just checked but the link for the list is not found so they are probably uploading as I type :jiggy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest harters Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I've got the same problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theweirs Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 OMG I've just checked but the link for the list is not found so they are probably uploading as I type :jiggy: The list is out, we have just saw it OMG it does really exist :laugh: but we are cooks and it says it is not available. We already have state sponsored - have we already been included - this is a bloody nightmare :arghh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sue1203 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Hi ya I still can't open it...OMG...can anyone put us out of our misery and tell us if Electrician (General) is on it??? S x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest english reject Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Thats what we are waiting for as well Electrician General. Let me know if you find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theweirs Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Here is the list Western Australian Skilled Migration Occupation List Skilled Sponsored Visa (SSV) - Subclass 176 (Offshore) and 886 (Onshore) Skilled Regional Sponsored (Provisional) Visa (SRSV) - Subclass 475 (Offshore) and 487 (Onshore) Applicants who have a skill listed on the Western Australian Skilled Migration Occupation List (WASMOL) may be eligible to apply for Western Australian State Sponsorship. These occupations do not relate to any specific job vacancies, nor represent any guarantee of a job in these occupations, but rather identify skills that are in demand for industry sectors in Western Australia. State Sponsorship applicants will have to compete with all potential employees in the Western Australian labour market in a normal competitive selection process to secure any available or advertised job. ANZSCO CODE SKILLED OCCUPATION ASSESSING AUTHORITY SOL POINTS STATUS Managers (View Criteria) 133111 Construction Project Manager VETASSESS 50 Available 133211 Engineering Manager Engineers Australia/AIM 60 Available 133513 Production Manager (Mining) VETASSESS 50 Available 133611 Supply and Distribution Manager AIM 60 Available 134111 Child Care Centre Manager TRA 60 Available 134212 Nursing Clinical Director ANMC 60 Available 135111 Chief Information Officer ACS 60 Available Professionals (View Criteria) 221111 Accountant (General) CPA/ICAA/NIA 60 Not Available 231111 Aeroplane Pilot CASA 60 Available 231113 Flying Instructor VETASSESS 50 Available 231114 Helicopter Pilot CASA/VETASSESS 60 Available 231212 Ship's Engineer AMSA 40 Available 231213 Ship's Master AMSA 40 Available 232111 Architect AACA 60 Available 232112 Landscape Architect VETASSESS 50 Available 232212 Surveyor SSSI (formerly known as ISA) 60 Available 232611 Urban and Regional Planner VETASSESS 50 Available 233111 Chemical Engineer Engineers Australia 60 Available 233211 Civil Engineer Engineers Australia 60 Available 233212 Geotechnical Engineer Engineers Australia 60 Available 233213 Quantity Surveyor AIQS 60 Available 233311 Electrical Engineer Engineers Australia 60 Available 233411 Electronics Engineer Engineers Australia 60 Available 233512 Mechanical Engineer Engineers Australia 60 Available 233513 Production or Plant Engineer Engineers Australia 60 Available 233611 Mining Engineer (excluding Petroleum) Engineers Australia 60 Available 233612 Petroleum Engineer Engineers Australia 60 Available 234211 Chemist VETASSESS 50 Available 234411 Geologist VETASSESS 50 Available 234611 Medical Laboratory Scientist AIMS 60 Available 234711 Veterinarian AVBC 60 Available 234912 Metallurgist VETASSESS 50 Available 251211 Medical Diagnostic Radiographer AIR 60 Available 251212 Medical Radiation Therapist AIR 60 Available 251213 Nuclear Medicine Technologist ANZSNM 60 Available 251214 Sonographer AIR 60 Available 251311 Environmental Health Officer VETASSESS 50 Available 251411 Optometrist OCANZ 60 Available 251513 Retail Pharmacist APharmC/COPRA/APEC 60 Available 252111 Chiropractor CCEA 60 Available 252311 Dental Specialist ADC 60 Available 252312 Dentist ADC 60 Available 252411 Occupational Therapist OTC (formerly known as COTRB) 60 Available 252511 Physiotherapist APC 60 Available 252611 Podiatrist APodC/ANZPAC 60 Available 252711 Audiologist VETASSESS 50 Available 252712 Speech Pathologist SPAA 60 Available 254111 Midwife ANMC 60 Available 254411 Nurse Practitioner ANMC 60 Available 254412 Registered Nurse (Aged Care) ANMC 60 Available 254413 Registered Nurse (Child and Family Health) ANMC 60 Available 254414 Registered Nurse (Community Health) ANMC 60 Available 254415 Registered Nurse (Critical Care and Emergency) ANMC 60 Available 254417 Registered Nurse (Disability and Rehabilitation) ANMC 60 Available 254418 Registered Nurse (Medical) ANMC 60 Available 254421 Registered Nurse (Medical Practice) ANMC 60 Available 254422 Registered Nurse (Mental Health) ANMC 60 Available 254423 Registered Nurse (Perioperative) ANMC 60 Available 254424 Registered Nurse (Surgical) ANMC 60 Available 254499 Registered Nurses nec ANMC 60 Available 261111 ICT Business Analyst ACS 60 Available 263311 Telecommunications engineer Engineers Australia 60 Available 272112 Drug and Alcohol Counsellor VETASSESS 50 Available 272311 Clinical Psychologist APS 60 Available 272511 Social Worker AASW 60 Available Technicians and Trade Workers (View Criteria) 311411 Chemistry Technician VETASSESS 40 Available 312111 Architectural Draftsperson VETASSESS 40 Available 312112 Building Associate VETASSESS 40 Available 312116 Surveying or Cartographic Technician VETASSESS 40 Available 312211 Civil Engineering Draftsperson VETASSESS 40 Available 312212 Civil Engineering Technician VETASSESS 40 Available 312311 Electrical Engineering Draftsperson Engineers Australia 40 Available 312312 Electrical Engineering Technician TRA 40 Available 312411 Electronic Engineering Draftsperson Engineers Australia 40 Available 312412 Electronic Engineering Technician TRA 40 Available 312511 Mechanical Engineering Draftsperson Engineers Australia 40 Available 312512 Mechanical Engineering Technician TRA 40 Available 312912 Metallurgical or Materials Technician VETASSESS 40 Available 312913 Mine Deputy VETASSESS 40 Available 313213 Telecommunications Network Planner Engineers Australia 40 Available 313214 Telecommunications Technical Officer or Technologist Engineers Australia 40 Available 321111 Automotive Electrician TRA 60 Available 321211 Motor Mechanic (General) TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 321212 Diesel Motor Mechanic TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 321214 Small engine mechanic TRA 60 Available 322114 Metal Casting Trades Worker TRA 60 Available 322211 Sheetmetal Trades Worker TRA 60 Available 322311 Metal Fabricator TRA 60 Available 322312 Pressure Welder TRA 60 Available 322313 Welder (First Class) TRA 60 Available 323211 Fitter (General) TRA 60 Available 323214 Metal Machinist (First Class) TRA 60 Available 323299 Metal Fitters and Machinists nec TRA 60 Available 323313 Locksmith TRA 60 Available 323314 Precision Instrument Maker and Repairer TRA 60 Available 323412 Toolmaker TRA 60 Available 331111 Bricklayer TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 331211 Carpenter and Joiner TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 331212 Carpenter TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 331213 Joiner TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 332111 Floor Finisher TRA 60 Available 332211 Painting Trades Worker TRA 60 Available 333111 Glazier TRA 60 Available 333211 Fibrous Plasterer TRA 60 Available 333212 Solid Plasterer TRA 60 Available 333311 Roof Tiler TRA 60 Available 333411 Wall and Floor Tiler TRA 60 Available 334111 Plumber (General) TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 334112 Airconditioning and Mechanical Services Plumber TRA 60 Available 334113 Drainer TRA 60 Available 334114 Gasfitter TRA 60 Available 334115 Roof Plumber TRA 60 Available 341111 Electrician (General) TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 341112 Electrician (Special Class) TRA 60 Available 341113 Lift Mechanic TRA 60 Available 342111 Airconditioning and Refrigeration Mechanic TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 342211 Electrical Linesworker TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 342212 Technical Cable Jointer TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 342313 Electronic Equipment Trades Worker TRA 60 Available 342314 Electronic Instrument Trades Worker (General) TRA 60 Available 342413 Telecommunications Linesworker TRA 60 Available 342414 Telecommunications Technician TRA 60 Available 351311 Chef TRA 60 Available 351411 Cook TRA 60 Not Available There are some other pages listing the criteria so will try and get that on next. 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Guest theweirs Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Criteria for Managers and Professionals If you are looking to apply for state sponsorship from the Government of Western Australia you will need to have an occupation on the Western Australian Skilled Migration Occupation list (WASMOL); meet Western Australia's criteria for your occupation and meet the Department of Immigration and Citizenship's criteria for General Skilled Migration. Visa subclass 176 886 475 487 IELTS* 7 7 7 7 Work experience 7 years 18 months 5 years 3 years *International English Language Testing System All Managers and Professionals will require a high level of English skills. This level, deemed proficient, is an IELTS score of 7 across all four bands reading, writing, listening and speaking. Special conditions Working holiday visa (Subclass 417) To meet the above work experience criteria, holders of a working holiday visa will need to have been previously employed in their nominated occupation in their home country before working in their nominated occupation while onshore on a qualifying visa. Skilled – Sponsored (residence) visa (subclass 886) Students will need to hold a skilled-graduate (temporary) visa (subclass 485) before applying for 886 State sponsorship. Students who hold a skilled-graduate (temporary) visa (subclass 485) applying to Western Australia for sponsorship on a skilled - sponsored (residence) visa (subclass 886) will need 18 months work experience in their nominated occupation after gaining their qualification. Work experience will need to be gained in Western Australia on a full time, continuous basis. Criteria for Technicians and Trade Workers If you are looking to apply for state sponsorship from the Government of Western Australia you will need to have an occupation on the Western Australian Skilled Migration Occupation list (WASMOL); meet Western Australia's criteria for your occupation and meet the Department of Immigration and Citizenship's criteria for General Skilled Migration. Visa sublass 176 886 475 487 IELTS* 6 6 6 6 Work experience 7 years 18 months 5 years 3 years *International English Language Testing System All Technicians and Trade Workers are required to achieve an IELTS score of 6 across all four bands reading, writing, listening and speaking. Special conditions Pilot for food trades There are a large number of applications in the food trades currently in the Department of Immigration and Citizenship processing pipeline. Despite this, these occupations have been retained on the WASMOL due to forecasted demand over the next four years. State Migration WA will pilot the use of a panel of industry experts to determine employability of chefs and cooks. State sponsorship will be based on meeting the criteria for technicians and trades and the recommendation of the panel. Working holiday visa (Subclass 417) To meet the above work experience criteria, holders of a working holiday visa will need to have been previously employed in their nominated occupation in their home country before working in their nominated occupation while onshore on a qualifying visa. Skilled – Sponsored (residence) visa (subclass 886) Students will need to hold a skilled-graduate (temporary) visa (subclass 485) before applying for 886 State sponsorship. Students who hold a skilled-graduate (temporary) visa (subclass 485) applying to Western Australia for sponsorship on a skilled - sponsored (residence) visa (subclass 886) will need 18 months work experience in their nominated occupation after gaining their qualification. Work experience will need to be gained in Western Australia on a full time, continuous basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H & M Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 :arghh::arghh: Nooo Cabinetmaker not on the list. Now we have to try Victoria or wait for years for 175 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sivakumar Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Here is the list Western Australian Skilled Migration Occupation List Skilled Sponsored Visa (SSV) - Subclass 176 (Offshore) and 886 (Onshore) Skilled Regional Sponsored (Provisional) Visa (SRSV) - Subclass 475 (Offshore) and 487 (Onshore) Applicants who have a skill listed on the Western Australian Skilled Migration Occupation List (WASMOL) may be eligible to apply for Western Australian State Sponsorship. These occupations do not relate to any specific job vacancies, nor represent any guarantee of a job in these occupations, but rather identify skills that are in demand for industry sectors in Western Australia. State Sponsorship applicants will have to compete with all potential employees in the Western Australian labour market in a normal competitive selection process to secure any available or advertised job. ANZSCO CODE SKILLED OCCUPATION ASSESSING AUTHORITY SOL POINTS STATUS Managers (View Criteria) 133111 Construction Project Manager VETASSESS 50 Available 133211 Engineering Manager Engineers Australia/AIM 60 Available 133513 Production Manager (Mining) VETASSESS 50 Available 133611 Supply and Distribution Manager AIM 60 Available 134111 Child Care Centre Manager TRA 60 Available 134212 Nursing Clinical Director ANMC 60 Available 135111 Chief Information Officer ACS 60 Available Professionals (View Criteria) 221111 Accountant (General) CPA/ICAA/NIA 60 Not Available 231111 Aeroplane Pilot CASA 60 Available 231113 Flying Instructor VETASSESS 50 Available 231114 Helicopter Pilot CASA/VETASSESS 60 Available 231212 Ship's Engineer AMSA 40 Available 231213 Ship's Master AMSA 40 Available 232111 Architect AACA 60 Available 232112 Landscape Architect VETASSESS 50 Available 232212 Surveyor SSSI (formerly known as ISA) 60 Available 232611 Urban and Regional Planner VETASSESS 50 Available 233111 Chemical Engineer Engineers Australia 60 Available 233211 Civil Engineer Engineers Australia 60 Available 233212 Geotechnical Engineer Engineers Australia 60 Available 233213 Quantity Surveyor AIQS 60 Available 233311 Electrical Engineer Engineers Australia 60 Available 233411 Electronics Engineer Engineers Australia 60 Available 233512 Mechanical Engineer Engineers Australia 60 Available 233513 Production or Plant Engineer Engineers Australia 60 Available 233611 Mining Engineer (excluding Petroleum) Engineers Australia 60 Available 233612 Petroleum Engineer Engineers Australia 60 Available 234211 Chemist VETASSESS 50 Available 234411 Geologist VETASSESS 50 Available 234611 Medical Laboratory Scientist AIMS 60 Available 234711 Veterinarian AVBC 60 Available 234912 Metallurgist VETASSESS 50 Available 251211 Medical Diagnostic Radiographer AIR 60 Available 251212 Medical Radiation Therapist AIR 60 Available 251213 Nuclear Medicine Technologist ANZSNM 60 Available 251214 Sonographer AIR 60 Available 251311 Environmental Health Officer VETASSESS 50 Available 251411 Optometrist OCANZ 60 Available 251513 Retail Pharmacist APharmC/COPRA/APEC 60 Available 252111 Chiropractor CCEA 60 Available 252311 Dental Specialist ADC 60 Available 252312 Dentist ADC 60 Available 252411 Occupational Therapist OTC (formerly known as COTRB) 60 Available 252511 Physiotherapist APC 60 Available 252611 Podiatrist APodC/ANZPAC 60 Available 252711 Audiologist VETASSESS 50 Available 252712 Speech Pathologist SPAA 60 Available 254111 Midwife ANMC 60 Available 254411 Nurse Practitioner ANMC 60 Available 254412 Registered Nurse (Aged Care) ANMC 60 Available 254413 Registered Nurse (Child and Family Health) ANMC 60 Available 254414 Registered Nurse (Community Health) ANMC 60 Available 254415 Registered Nurse (Critical Care and Emergency) ANMC 60 Available 254417 Registered Nurse (Disability and Rehabilitation) ANMC 60 Available 254418 Registered Nurse (Medical) ANMC 60 Available 254421 Registered Nurse (Medical Practice) ANMC 60 Available 254422 Registered Nurse (Mental Health) ANMC 60 Available 254423 Registered Nurse (Perioperative) ANMC 60 Available 254424 Registered Nurse (Surgical) ANMC 60 Available 254499 Registered Nurses nec ANMC 60 Available 261111 ICT Business Analyst ACS 60 Available 263311 Telecommunications engineer Engineers Australia 60 Available 272112 Drug and Alcohol Counsellor VETASSESS 50 Available 272311 Clinical Psychologist APS 60 Available 272511 Social Worker AASW 60 Available Technicians and Trade Workers (View Criteria) 311411 Chemistry Technician VETASSESS 40 Available 312111 Architectural Draftsperson VETASSESS 40 Available 312112 Building Associate VETASSESS 40 Available 312116 Surveying or Cartographic Technician VETASSESS 40 Available 312211 Civil Engineering Draftsperson VETASSESS 40 Available 312212 Civil Engineering Technician VETASSESS 40 Available 312311 Electrical Engineering Draftsperson Engineers Australia 40 Available 312312 Electrical Engineering Technician TRA 40 Available 312411 Electronic Engineering Draftsperson Engineers Australia 40 Available 312412 Electronic Engineering Technician TRA 40 Available 312511 Mechanical Engineering Draftsperson Engineers Australia 40 Available 312512 Mechanical Engineering Technician TRA 40 Available 312912 Metallurgical or Materials Technician VETASSESS 40 Available 312913 Mine Deputy VETASSESS 40 Available 313213 Telecommunications Network Planner Engineers Australia 40 Available 313214 Telecommunications Technical Officer or Technologist Engineers Australia 40 Available 321111 Automotive Electrician TRA 60 Available 321211 Motor Mechanic (General) TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 321212 Diesel Motor Mechanic TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 321214 Small engine mechanic TRA 60 Available 322114 Metal Casting Trades Worker TRA 60 Available 322211 Sheetmetal Trades Worker TRA 60 Available 322311 Metal Fabricator TRA 60 Available 322312 Pressure Welder TRA 60 Available 322313 Welder (First Class) TRA 60 Available 323211 Fitter (General) TRA 60 Available 323214 Metal Machinist (First Class) TRA 60 Available 323299 Metal Fitters and Machinists nec TRA 60 Available 323313 Locksmith TRA 60 Available 323314 Precision Instrument Maker and Repairer TRA 60 Available 323412 Toolmaker TRA 60 Available 331111 Bricklayer TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 331211 Carpenter and Joiner TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 331212 Carpenter TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 331213 Joiner TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 332111 Floor Finisher TRA 60 Available 332211 Painting Trades Worker TRA 60 Available 333111 Glazier TRA 60 Available 333211 Fibrous Plasterer TRA 60 Available 333212 Solid Plasterer TRA 60 Available 333311 Roof Tiler TRA 60 Available 333411 Wall and Floor Tiler TRA 60 Available 334111 Plumber (General) TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 334112 Airconditioning and Mechanical Services Plumber TRA 60 Available 334113 Drainer TRA 60 Available 334114 Gasfitter TRA 60 Available 334115 Roof Plumber TRA 60 Available 341111 Electrician (General) TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 341112 Electrician (Special Class) TRA 60 Available 341113 Lift Mechanic TRA 60 Available 342111 Airconditioning and Refrigeration Mechanic TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 342211 Electrical Linesworker TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 342212 Technical Cable Jointer TRA/VETASSESS 60 Available 342313 Electronic Equipment Trades Worker TRA 60 Available 342314 Electronic Instrument Trades Worker (General) TRA 60 Available 342413 Telecommunications Linesworker TRA 60 Available 342414 Telecommunications Technician TRA 60 Available 351311 Chef TRA 60 Available 351411 Cook TRA 60 Not Available There are some other pages listing the criteria so will try and get that on next. 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Guest Sue1203 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Good luck to all and I hope everyone is happy S x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theweirs Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 put the link mate I have put the list on cause people cant access the link, but here it is The Department of Training and Workforce Development - Skilled Migration Western Australia - Occupations in demand Jo x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brideycollette Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 :wideeyed:I don't want to look :laugh: Now :wideeyed::cry:scared lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest garynhelen Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 So disappointed :'( more waiting ( or rotting) in cat 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sue1203 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Hi ya Can I just ask that if you already have SS from WA, does the IELTS still apply?? S x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toria Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Not good for us Hairdressers not on the list, so dissapointed! Good luck to everyone! Toria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theweirs Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Hi guys I have tried to phone them this morning to see where we stand as we are cooks. The staff are being briefed on the list and will be in the office after 9.30am. So sorry for those who haven't made it onto the list and good luck for everyone else. Jo x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarkandVerlie Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I feel for everyone who has been dissapointed, All the waiting and wondering. All I can say at least now you know and you can kind of get on with life. I have to say, living in WA, and seeing the job adverts every week in the paper, this is list is fairly representative of the current demand, although I have to say I thought cabinet maker would be there, I have a good friend in Holland who is going to be gutted......Stay positive people, where there's a will........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cherise Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Hi guys I have tried to phone them this morning to see where we stand as we are cooks. The staff are being briefed on the list and will be in the office after 9.30am. So sorry for those who haven't made it onto the list and good luck for everyone else. Jo x Hi guys Just wanted to know if you have their number I want to ring and find out about those already sponsored by wa??? please.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theweirs Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Hi guys Just wanted to know if you have their number I want to ring and find out about those already sponsored by wa??? please.... Hey Not sure where you are phoning from but if you are in Perth the number is 08 9218 2100, if you are international I think you drop the 0 and add 0061 - good luck. Jo x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cherise Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Thanks for the number I have to ring back a little later :-@ Im so stressed not on the list but have sponsorship for almost a year now!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest carlj3108 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 OMG...... Lost count how many times I've read the list to double check. My occupation is on the list.....I'm so pleased. GET IN !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theweirs Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Fingers crossed we'll be alright if we already have state sponsor. Jo x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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