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Hi just wondering how to get my foot in the door of the mines. I have a 15 years experience as a fitter including a 6 year apprenticeship. Hydraulics Pnuematics Electrics Machining welding fabricating. Along side that i have a degree in aeronautical engineering but would love to get into the mines as i need a career away from aircraft.

 

Any hot tips as sending a resume out does nothing.

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You need to approach contractors as mining companies are highly unlikely to look at you without mining experience. Is your fitting expereince in heavy diesel equipment? If not you won't get a supervisory position and will be starting as a plain fitter. Supervisory positions can prove dodgy too; you effectively become personally responsable for everything (and will be personally fined or jailed under mining legislation; no company responsability here as Workplace Health and Safety laws don't apply on mines that are covered by Coal Mining or Mining and Quarry law), and you don't really get any significant increase in pay for your trouble.

 

You're right in saying sending you CV off does nothing; mining companies do not actually receive CVs first off; they get sent down to a screening agent who pulls off the best of them - but ONLY when they are actively recruiting - otherwise they just get binned.

 

Look at companies like Emeco, Theiss, Downer, Haynes etc who have contract roles. Once you've done it for a couple of years the mining houses will start to take your application seriously.

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Guest karldyble

Have you looked at seek.com.au ??

 

Tons of job for fitters etc on there. Here's my tips, it's long but hopfull of interest;

 

Getting in to the Mining Industry in WA with no experience.

What you need to know.

My background, I landed in Perth in Jan 2010, with no knowledge or interest in mining as I had been a plasterer in England. I decided that I’d had enough of that so I got into a few other things and after I found they weren’t for me I decided to go full tilt at the mining industry….easy work….loads of money and only working half the year….hell yeah… let me at it… and then it got complicated.

The following is the result of all my mistakes. Read it and hopefully you will save yourselves a ton of time and money.

First - the DO’s.

Get your HR license (HGV license or similar in UK). Book this as soon as you can as it gets booked up pretty fast. They do it Perth but it’s easier if you can do it somewhere quieter. You will need to do the ‘unrestricted’ or ‘open’ Road Ranger gear box course! Regardless of the fact that the majority of trucks on a mine are automatic. Keens Brothers in Bunbury do a two day course for about $1000 but you will need to do your learners permit at a licensing centre first, 17 questions and they ask you about 12. Costs about $120.

A HR license is the absolute minimum pre-requisite. You will see some that don’t ask for it but most will and I have seen countless jobs pass me buy because of my dithering over whether I needed it or not – You do.

An Australian Police Clearance certificate – post office about $50 – they need to know you’ve been a good boy. Even if you’re a crim in England it won’t show up here so be nice…until you get a job at least!!

The should DO’s

The most popular things that are looked on ‘favourably’ are;

Forklift license – Consolidated Training Services do a one day course - $400

Senior First Aid – St Johns ambulance Australia two day course – about $150

Four Wheel drive and Defensive driving – 2 day course – Eureka 4WD - $300 (ish)

Elevated Work Platform (EWP) – about $500

MARCSTA – Mining Safety induction – one day - $120 (not necessary but some like it), most companies will do their own version in the induction.

A medical Examination – you can do this yourself if you really want or most co’s will require it anyway in addition to a pre-employment drug and alcohol screen.

For people who want to really get stuck in;

Dogging and Rigging (rigging crane loads and crane communication) – about $1000

DON’T DO!!!

Don’t spend $3000 on a dump truck course, as with no experience it’s meaningless and you will still have to be a labourer or TA (Trades Assistant) and any good company will pay for your training if you want it later.

Don’t touch ‘Hogan Mining’ or any company that offers to find you work for money!!!

Things you need to know

Recruitment agencies won’t touch you without a HR license and two years experience. I am seeing jobs now only requiring one year or the really crappy jobs, which you WILL have to do which do not ask for any experience. The fact that less experience is being required is a good thing as it shows that industry demand is exceeding the supply of experienced staff and therefore they are willing to look at ‘Greenies’ (you and me) as long as they have some tickets. Why do they need so much experience? Simple, a mine costs millions a day, the last thing they want is an idiot with no idea coming and getting himself eaten by a machine and having to shut the whole thing down to salvage his mangled corpse. A guy died recently in a Mine in South Africa, I think, possibly run by Rio Tinto or BHP and they had to close the mine down for a day or so, they lost millions in production and then their share price went down as a result.

Register with the big boys. The likes of Rio Tinto, BHP Billiton, FMG, Newcrest, HWE. Go to their sites and fill in all the forms, pain in the rear but has to be done.

Mining co’s a re split into different areas, Mine operators, Drilling companies, Exploration and labour hire (there will be more but this’ll do for the mo). The mine operators are the big companies and as you have no experience you might want to target these first due to their high numbers of staff and high turn over of employees. Yes, there are plenty who think they want it but after a month or so they’ve had enough. This is another reason why they are sceptical of those with no experience. The exploration co’s are generally small groups of specialists and unless you have a very special qualification or skill you will find it difficult to get in with them. Drilling companies, again small and will generally require a high skill / knowledge level. Labour hire co’s such as ‘skilled’ and ‘integrated’ will have the low level jobs such as labourers, TA’s and Field Assistants, they will generally employ you for 3 months (probationary period) and then you might get taken on by the mine operator.

FACT – you will have to do a crap job to start with – swallow your pride and stay positive – no-one likes a moaner, everyone is away from home and we all have problems. Don’t give them cause to label you a winging pom. Been there, done that!!

After all that….the good news, once you’re in, you’re in!! If you can get a start all you have to do is work hard and keep your head down, don’t get involved in politics, talk to the people in the sorts of roles that you would like to do like operators (excavators, graders, dump trucks, cranes etc) and you can easily move into a more exciting role.

This is Australia remember, they are not famed for their work ethic and innovation, the British are so if you do what you should do and you’ll shine in no time.

So where am I working??? The answer is, I’m not. It’s taken me a year of messing around to get to the point where I’m actually employable. I want to get into Health and safety and training and have had to do some hefty courses, despite this I will still have to go in as a labourer / TA. The only difference now being that I know I can actually get a job and I know that after a year or so of crap I can use my qualifications to move on up. I’m applying for jobs at the mo as well as studying and after my parents have visited in Jan I should be ready to go. I have been working up North in construction too. Just for interest I have done the following courses;

HR (Heavy rigid truck license) including learners permit - $1200 (sitting license mid Jan 2011)

4 wheel drive - drive and recover course - $200

Defensive driving course - $200

Forklift Course - $400

Senior First Aid - $200

Cert IV OHS (Health and Safety) $2500

Cert IV Training and Assessment $1200

If you’re looking to do any Cert I, II, II or IV courses don’t go with Seek Learning, I paid $2500 and found out that I could have got this for about $1500 if I went direct!!

I hope this will save you some time and effort and if you need any other pointers please feel free to contact me.

Good luck….you going to need it….and a lot of patience.

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Guest hambim336

Hi

 

You can find this info by using search box in the top of website with some keywords related before posting questions.

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