Guest stillwaiting79 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 anymore juicy info...esp GSM stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jamie Smith Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 WHVs at present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wanderer Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 So they're waffling on about a pretrial of a trial etc. etc. And some other Senator is prattling on to tell this immi guy on sucking eggs! Why the hell don't they save a heap of making themselves look pretty stupid and time and money and put together all their questions on paper and the department could even put a report out, even have it online. Sounds to me we not only need to get rid of state governments but probably a good percentage of federal fatness. Female Senator again asking about WHVs now and negotiating with other countries, crikey! What trivial sort of nonsence they're going on with. She's asking stuff that is probably able to be got of the immi site and as Senator Evans just says, it'll be in the annual report. What a load of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stillwaiting79 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 So they're waffling on about a pretrial of a trial etc. etc.And some other Senator is prattling on to tell this immi guy on sucking eggs! Why the hell don't they save a heap of making themselves look pretty stupid and time and money and put together all their questions on paper and the department could even put a report out, even have it online. Sounds to me we not only need to get rid of state governments but probably a good percentage of federal fatness. Female Senator again asking about WHVs now and negotiating with other countries, crikey! What trivial sort of nonsence they're going on with. She's asking stuff that is probably able to be got of the immi site and as Senator Evans just says, it'll be in the annual report. What a load of it! its politics...what can u do.....no point whingieng about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wanderer Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I'm getting a lot from watching the Minister, what he chooses to answer or let go, tone of voice, body language, grasp of facts or not etc. Basically, am trying to get inside his head a bit more. __________________ Just listening Jaimie, I'd reckon he wishes he could be somewhere else when it comes to the stupidity of some questions being asked and the sheer trivialness of it all. I wonder if he feels pity for the Senators when they are out of depth. At the same time you cannot expect Senator Evans to have all details stored in his head and I don't think he'll have too much room for you wriggling in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jamie Smith Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Agree she is a dull examiner.How do these people get elected? Safe seats, where you don't have to be elected on your abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wanderer Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I dunno Jaimie, I reckon even the Krudduckster could be rolled if someone put their mind to it and had a bit of support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Collett Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Agreed - the female Senator is woefully unprepared. Can we find away for Gill to become a Senator please? Best regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wanderer Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 If Gill talked as much as she typed, there'd be no time for questions to be answered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jamie Smith Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Notes from Round Table Discussion MIA National Conference 9 Oct 2009 David Edwards – Manager Adelaide Skilled Processing Centre Notes by Mark Webster NSW State President MIA ASPC Structure - Overall employee numbers are down to 140, with approx 50 case officers - There are 8 processing teams, 7 dealing with offshore GSM and 1 with paper lodged onshore GSM and a large Admin branch (including paper registrations and communications) - The Generic Visa Portal is being rolled out to GSM, 457 and other visa products over the next few months Current Caseload - There have been approx 22,000 grants to 30 September 2009 - ASPC has 105,000 and BSPC has 30,000 GSM applicants and there are approximately 28,000 subclass 485 applicants in the pipeline - This would be enough to fill 2 years of the program for GSM - Outstanding non-CSL cases at ASPC: o 3,500: State Nomimated o 12,500: MODL o 15,500: Other - In this program year, it appears that there could be up to 17,000 more ENS grants than planned and this may lead to a reduction of the GSM grant numbers. Processing Priorities - Highest priority GSM applicants are being allocated within 3-10 working days and it is expected this service standard will apply to all CSL applicants by January 2010 - Currently looking at CSL lodged in Feb 2009 - 485 cases should be allocated within 3-10 days if CSL, PhD or Masters/Honours year after bachelors or 2-3 months if not CSL - For paper lodged applications, DIAC systems don’t record PhD or Masters/Honours year after bachelors, so agents may wish to bring these cases to the attention of ASPC/BSPC - There are some exceptions to the processing priorities: o $100k bond cases o MRT remits o Subclass 476/883/887 o Subsequent entrants for 485 or regional sponsored o Where a pre-visa grant advice was issued prior to 23 September o Where the 2nd VAC has been requested & paid o There is also a limited ability to prioritise cases on compelling grounds – decision has to be made by the manager ASPC - Members raised the situation where an applicant is awaiting grant of a 485 or skilled regional sponsored visa so that they can make an application for subsequent entrants – David will look at whether it would be possible to create an exception for this category - There are delays in the assessment of some onshore VET applicants due to concerns about authenticity of employment documents - Members expressed concern about delays in integrity checks and security checks. Significant issues in Pakistan where there are tight restrictions on movement of embassy staff. - Security checks – service standard is 6 months. After this, ASPC follows up on a monthly basis but has no control over when they are completed Bridging Visas - In the situation where a person is on an BVA, they were previously granted a BVA if applying for onshore skilled - This was an error and from April/May 2009, they have been granted a BVC - Who said DIAC are perfect? - Members expressed concern that the BVC is granted with no work rights, meaning an additional application for a BVC with work rights is required - David indicated that BVBs should be available due to the longer processing times – BSPC has been allowing BVBs up to 6 months in duration - Members expressed concern that Sydney is requiring documentation about the specific reason for travel and in some cases refusing to allow the BVB - David will follow up with Sydney to ensure that this does not occur Other Matters - ASPC is not going to introduce decision-ready checklists, even though these are used by BSPC - Medicals – David will check whether temporary medicals as done for a student visa would be acceptable for 485s and skilled regional sponsored - Don’t send JPG files as attachments – these aren’t picked up properly by DIAC’s email system - David will follow up on whether a person working as a residential care officer in a nursing home could be considered skilled, despite the fact that the person is not dealing with youth or disabled persons - If an applicant swaps from onshore GSM to onshore ENS or offshore GSM to offshore ENS, there is a fee waiver for the ENS application - However, if swapping from onshore to offshore or vice versa, there is no fee waiver under the legislation. In this case, ASPC is open to giving a refund on the basis that the GSM application is “no longer necessary” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jamie Smith Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 refugees and boat people on agenda now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glenn Pereira Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 It now appears they made a mess of the on-shore student program. They have to clean up the mess ASAP. Yet on the briefing I have on the on-shore job ready policy they have not got it right and if they do not change the policy we will land in the same mess in another few years. Austrlai will maintain International student program to prevent the country from going into a recession. I understand from unconfirmed sources that a higly reputed lawyer is going to represent a number of clients with bogus 900 hrs who have received visa refusal letter. there goes the Minister's plan to fix the "bogus 900 hrs" -ie. send them home. regards Glenn Pereira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wanderer Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Who is this stupid female Senator? She has just asked someone from Australian IMMI what the Indonesians are doing. Is there a chairman of this committee for christs sake as what Indonesia is doing is their business and Kruddie can make a call to Bangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jamie Smith Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Who is this stupid female Senator? She has just asked someone from Australian IMMI what the Indonesians are doing. Is there a chairman of this committee for christs sake as what Indonesia is doing is their business and Kruddie can make a call to Bangers. Make sense please! Spikka da Englistsch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandm Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 -There are some exceptions to the processing priorities: o$100k bond cases oMRT remits oSubclass 476/883/887 oSubsequent entrants for 485 or regional sponsored hey jamie, can you throw further light on this statement in bold? does 475 provisional regional family sponsored fall in this category? thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stillwaiting79 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Notes from Round Table Discussion MIA National Conference 9 Oct 2009 David Edwards – Manager Adelaide Skilled Processing Centre Notes by Mark Webster NSW State President MIA ASPC Structure -Overall employee numbers are down to 140, with approx 50 case officers -There are 8 processing teams, 7 dealing with offshore GSM and 1 with paper lodged onshore GSM and a large Admin branch (including paper registrations and communications) -The Generic Visa Portal is being rolled out to GSM, 457 and other visa products over the next few months” Jamie, There's only 50 CO's processing all of these apps????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jamie Smith Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 hey jamie, can you throw further light on this statement in bold? does 475 provisional regional family sponsored fall in this category? thanks in advance. Sorry, I'm not qualified to answer the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wanderer Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Which part do you nicht verstanden comrade? Kommander Kruddie is our PM!, and Bangers?, another nickname for a guy with a long name with bangbang in it, the guy Kruddie recently rang as part of his Indonesian solution. The Indonesian Hilton ain't a touch on having Xmas on an island of the same name!, right from Evans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jamie Smith Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Jamie, There's only 50 CO's processing all of these apps????? And 90 hangers-on. More chiefs than Indians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jamie Smith Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 which part do you nicht verstanden comrade?Kommander kruddie is our pm!, and bangers?, another nickname for a guy with a long name with bangbang in it, the guy kruddie recently rang as part of his indonesian solution. The indonesian hilton ain't a touch on having xmas on an island of the same name!, right from evans. πάντα всичко すべて Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stillwaiting79 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 And 90 hangers-on. More chiefs than Indians. no way!!!!!!! god! that just frustrates me! we cant honestly NOT do anything, can we? if they have these info on records then cant we seek some justification on ($ fees) x (# of apps) = CO's/ employees ofcourse it doesnt equate :arghh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wanderer Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 And 90 hangers-on. More chiefs than Indians. Just remember Jaimie that even in an army, it's a small % of guys/gals out on the front with bullets in their mags. I wonder whether this Senator needs a luggage boy for a trip to Indonesia she may be angling for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jamie Smith Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Just remember Jaimie that even in an army, it's a small % of guys/gals out on the front with bullets in their mags. I wonder whether this Senator needs a luggage boy for a trip to Indonesia she may be angling for? Yes logistics are important too, but wars are also won with good information and well prepared/trained troops. DIAC have weak resources in many areas, poor management information and a patchy quality of staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jamie Smith Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 no way!!!!!!! god! that just frustrates me! we cant honestly NOT do anything, can we? if they have these info on records then cant we seek some justification on ($ fees) x (# of apps) = CO's/ employees ofcourse it doesnt equate 2100 files per CO at ASPC = $2850 * 2100 = $5,985,000 INCOME PER CASE OFFICER :arghh: Yes I know they also each cover a proportion of costs for call centres, overseas posts, (mis)management salaries, archive systems etc. Multiply that by 50 and get :Randy-git: oops I mean $299 million in file value in ASPC alone to say nothing of agent fees, police, medical, TRA etc Now we know why DIAC are silent on refunds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wanderer Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 DIAC have weak resources in many areas, poor management information and a patchy quality of staff. In some areas we could say that Jaimie, the main one being detection of fraudulent applications but that having been brought to light, I think the Jury is yet out re numbers, convictions and visa withdrawals. If we wanted that pulled up before it started, then we would have many more immi employed as investigators and their salaries would be paid for no doubt with higher fees for all, including people doing the right thing. But do look at the number of clients the department handles overall and then on what numbers of visas have been rejected on various grounds. Something like 160,000 p.a. for four years ending 2006 and haven't seen any figures for later years. Gone for a long afternoon tea, they all have, scones and cream no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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