457 to 189 (need advice on options)

[457 to 189]

Hi all - am new to the forum and hoping to get some advice. 

I am currently on a 4 year 457 visa that is due to expire in December 2021 and am keen to apply for a more permanent visa (189). Below are a few of my options and it would be great if you guys could recommend the route that would most likely lead to a successful application:

Option 1

Wait until January 2021 and get three years of relevant skilled employment in Australia which should take me to 95 points (assuming I can also score the maximum amount on the English test)

Option 2

Apply now on potentially 90 points

Option 3

Wait until January 2021 and go through the firm I am currently working for. They have a minimum 3 year requirement and I would only meet that in January next year.

Also, in terms of agents - are there any agents who will just perform a review of your submission? I am pretty comfortable collating the information and pulling the application together but would be keen for an agent to cast their eye over it before hitting send.

One last thing, I have a DUI on my record that has been previously declared and known at the time of my 457 request and subsequent approval. I understand that there will be additional paperwork required for this and hence why I would like to engage an agent with the process. 

Thanks!

 

[457 to 189]

My apologies, quick adjustment to the above. Option 1 would be down to 90 points and Option 2 down to 85 points. 

[Marisawright]

It doesn’t sound like you’ve got enough points for a 189 on your own. You might as well wait till January and do it through work

Yes there are agents who will do a review.

[457 to 189]

Thanks Marisawright. Do appreciate it, it does seem like going down the work route is my best bet. So 85 points (now) or 90 points (in January independent of work) is not going to be enough by your reckoning? What I have heard is that the gold standard at the moment in 95.

[paulhand]

23 minutes ago, 457 to 189 said:

Thanks Marisawright. Do appreciate it, it does seem like going down the work route is my best bet. So 85 points (now) or 90 points (in January independent of work) is not going to be enough by your reckoning? What I have heard is that the gold standard at the moment in 95.

There were only 50 invitations issued for 189s in the April round, all at 95 Points or more. The points boundary may fluctuate over the next six-nine months, particularly when they enter the new programme year. Have you looked at State nominated?

[Ausvisitor]

58 minutes ago, paulhand said:

There were only 50 invitations issued for 189s in the April round, all at 95 Points or more. The points boundary may fluctuate over the next six-nine months, particularly when they enter the new programme year. Have you looked at State nominated?

As Paul says if you are already in Australia why don't you look at a 190 from the state you live in (presuming you intend to stay in the same state)

[457 to 189]

Are there generally more invites for the 190 than 189?

[457 to 189]

Another point for a bit of additional context, the reason why I would rather not go down the route of an employer sponsored PR (the 186) is because of the 2 year contract. My understanding is that neither me or my employer is held to this agreement but the intention at the onset of the agreement must be that I am willing to continue my employment for the length of the contract (or at least have the intention to do so). Unfortunately, I have no intention of doing this and don't want to start my relationship with the immigration department on this footing. Would much rather be 100% forthright in my initial application and be free to make choices independent of this requirement.  

Considering the above, I think I am leaning to toward possibly applying for the 190 in January once I have three years of relevant Australian employment. With the 5 point state nomination, I should have 95 points. If I apply for the 189, it'll be 90 points (also in January) and that does not look like it will be enough.

Would 95 points for a 190 be enough? Do understand that there will be point movements over the next few months and it is not possible to say for sure but just looking for rough likelihood so I can plan ahead. If not enough, will likely bite the bullet and go through my employer with the 186. 

[paulhand]

3 minutes ago, 457 to 189 said:

Would 95 points for a 190 be enough? 

Depends if your state is nominating for your occupation...?

Edited May 19, 2020 by paulhand

[457 to 189]

7 hours ago, paulhand said:

Depends if your state is nominating for your occupation...?

It is and is the role I am currently employed in as well.