flag of convenience Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 You know, the Left hate Abbott the same way that I hate Chelsea ! Fact being most sensible people would take a loathing to both. Must admit haven't been thumped by Abbott supporters to date so dislike of Chelsea does extend a little deeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I'm sure we would all like to know the truth about things. No matter what we think about the asylum seekers issue. I rather get the feeling the interest lays in ignorance and couldn't care less as long as long as not forced to confront the issue on daily media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 The ABC the ALP the Fairfax Press The Guardian all infallible purveyors of the truths we want to ignore The truth certainly isn't very pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARYROSE02 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 We prefer Abbott's truth to more of the ALP's truth ie a boatful of illegal immigrants every day which is what we would have continued to get had Rudd won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 We prefer Abbott's truth to more of the ALP's truth ie a boatful of illegal immigrants every day which is what we would have continued to get had Rudd won. You refer to the unspoken truth, ignorance is bliss sort of thing I expect. Prefer the facts myself not hidden under some right wing ideologue as that side tend to follow. Total contempt for fellow citizens. From QLD's Bjeike Peterson and his feeding the chooks to the present Tory blues on the roost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARYROSE02 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Two more years to the next election then at least another three on to of that so how will you bear up to another five years of Tony? Remember, all of us naive people who believed Abbott when he said he would stop the boats and kill the carbon tax? Boy he pulled the wool over our eyes with those two lies didn't he! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Two more years to the next election then at least another three on to of that so how will you bear up to another five years of Tony? Remember, all of us naive people who believed Abbott when he said he would stop the boats and kill the carbon tax? Boy he pulled the wool over our eyes with those two lies didn't he! Yup, can't believe that my power and gas bills have gone down, when he said they would go down. What a bastard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARYROSE02 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I seem to remember much gloating about how 'once the monsoon season has ended' the boats will flood back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Two more years to the next election then at least another three on to of that so how will you bear up to another five years of Tony? Remember, all of us naive people who believed Abbott when he said he would stop the boats and kill the carbon tax? Boy he pulled the wool over our eyes with those two lies didn't he! Elections are bought and sold. The bribes come out near time and the rug pulling the rest of the time. Abbott certainly did pull the wool over the proletarians eyes with his sloganeering and selling out of decency. In fact sadly, a lot of questions can be raised if democracy is even the right way forward for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I seem to remember much gloating about how 'once the monsoon season has ended' the boats will flood back? Akin to the in gloating on display with the Tory Party attempting to outdo Labor in shear bloody mindedness and nastiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARYROSE02 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I told you to listen to 2GB and hear the views of the little people and battlers you claim to like but secretly despise because they all think like me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpodom Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 I told you to listen to 2GB and hear the views of the little people and battlers you claim to like but secretly despise because they all think like me! Are you some sort of messiah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARYROSE02 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I'm just a naughty boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I told you to listen to 2GB and hear the views of the little people and battlers you claim to like but secretly despise because they all think like me! No ta, the brain washed lemmings are but that nothing of interest but self interest and rabid right wing sentiment. One question how does an Abbott supporter jell with the seldom used term 'battlers' these days. The Tories loathe the losers and at best feel discomfort. Now the movers and shakers, that's something else. Their people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARYROSE02 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 No ta, the brain washed lemmings are but that nothing of interest but self interest and rabid right wing sentiment. One question how does an Abbott supporter jell with the seldom used term 'battlers' these days. The Tories loathe the losers and at best feel discomfort. Now the movers and shakers, that's something else. Their people. So if they vote for the Greens they can think for themselves, but if they vote for Abbott, they are 'brainwashed!?' How very typically patronising. But then again, that is why Abbott won, i.e. he was underestimated (as was Howard before him) right up to the time (and after) that he won power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessiejam Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 No ta, the brain washed lemmings are but that nothing of interest but self interest and rabid right wing sentiment. One question how does an Abbott supporter jell with the seldom used term 'battlers' these days. The Tories loathe the losers and at best feel discomfort. Now the movers and shakers, that's something else. Their people. I dont think they are brain washed. They like abbots ultra conservative, self serving ideologies. Some of them have said on this very thread that they don't care what happens to asylum seekers, they only care about Australian kids. They don't care about climate change, they don't even believe it exists, so they are happy to sell the planet for a bi-monthly fee of $10 off their power bill. You can't argue with people like that, they don't care about anything after their front door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpodom Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 I dont think they are brain washed. They like abbots ultra conservative, self serving ideologies. Some of them have said on this very thread that they don't care what happens to asylum seekers, they only care about Australian kids. They don't care about climate change, they don't even believe it exists, so they are happy to sell the planet for a bi-monthly fee of $10 off their power bill. You can't argue with people like that, they don't care about anything after their front door. At last! Another normal person turns up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 At last! Another normal person turns up! Definition of normal being someone who agrees with you eh Harpo.:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I dont think they are brain washed. They like abbots ultra conservative, self serving ideologies. Some of them have said on this very thread that they don't care what happens to asylum seekers, they only care about Australian kids. They don't care about climate change, they don't even believe it exists, so they are happy to sell the planet for a bi-monthly fee of $10 off their power bill. You can't argue with people like that, they don't care about anything after their front door. Possibly brain dead in the sense of being unwilling or unable to take aboard the bigger picture may be a better explanation then, though hardly difficult to brain wash many with short slogans and few words. I . A reason I question more the usefulness of democracy. Akin to giving Turkey's the vote for maintaining Christmas. Fine and dandy but when attempting to argue points on the international scene through Wikipedia, which seems to allow anyone to become an instant expert on subjects barely, if ever breached previously it does cause for wonderment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Definition of normal being someone who agrees with you eh Harpo.:cool: Or an individual that has a mind beyond the slogans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpodom Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 Definition of normal being someone who agrees with you eh Harpo.:cool: I'd regard someone who thinks it obscene to imprison children/subject them to mental torture/state sanctioned abuse as 'normal', yes Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARYROSE02 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I dont think they are brain washed. They like abbots ultra conservative, self serving ideologies. Some of them have said on this very thread that they don't care what happens to asylum seekers, they only care about Australian kids. They don't care about climate change, they don't even believe it exists, so they are happy to sell the planet for a bi-monthly fee of $10 off their power bill. You can't argue with people like that, they don't care about anything after their front door. That sounds like me to a T! Hang on, it IS me! Of course I care about climate change. That I why I want Australia to use its uranium to make us 100 per cent self-sufficent on nuclear power, the cleanest and most efficient known to man. Why just sell it to to other nations for them to develop their own nuclear power. I know there are issues with storing spent uranium safely, and the possiblity of accidents, but if climate change is THE greatest danger to humankind, then surely these drawbacks are the lesser of the two evils. And besides, scientists may well come up with new solutions to making nuclear power safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I'd regard someone who thinks it obscene to imprison children/subject them to mental torture/state sanctioned abuse as 'normal', yes Paul What sort of parent would force their child into those conditions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 What sort of parent would force their child into those conditions? A parent desperate for a future away from war, famine and rape. What sort of parent wouldn't flee though conditions should perhaps be the logical question. But then all said before, in fact several times at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARYROSE02 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 But just think how many lives have been saved now that the boats have stopped. Every day another unseaworthy and overcrowded boat set out from Indonesia, hoping that they would be rescued by Australian ships before they shipwrecked somewhere off the Australian coast. Hundreds have already drowned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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