PeterJa Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Hi, does anyone know what the tax on goods is when moving to Austalia? I'm getting a lot of misleading information. We have some things that are years old and are clearly exempt. We've also got new and nearly new (within 12 months) kitchen equipment, and possibly a new mountain bike too. Everything cost less than AUD1,000 which someone said was the threshold for tax. Thanks for any help, PJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 People don't usually pay tax on goods when they move. If you have anything new, take the packaging off and pretend you don't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJa Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 People don't usually pay tax on goods when they move. If you have anything new, take the packaging off and pretend you don't! I'm hearing stories about people being caught for everything and even having to produce receipts to prove age and value. I'm particularly worried about the bike as if I buy it, it will be blatantly a 2014 model. Cheers, PJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furkew Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I'm hearing stories about people being caught for everything and even having to produce receipts to prove age and value. I'm particularly worried about the bike as if I buy it, it will be blatantly a 2014 model. Cheers, PJ ive not heard of that ever happening myself. The idea is to stop people bringing in dozens of the same new item for resale. I would be more worried that they will get you for the mountain bike not being clean enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nic1171 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I dont know if customs woukd know models of bikes! As Furkew says its more if stuff is dirty or your bringing lots of one item as if you plan on selling. I know lots who have had to pay for things to be disposed such as christmas ornaments or things cleaned but not because of newness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I'm hearing stories about people being caught for everything and even having to produce receipts to prove age and value. I'm particularly worried about the bike as if I buy it, it will be blatantly a 2014 model. Cheers, PJ In five years since I started looking into immigration, I have never, ever heard anything like that. Take the bike for a few rides so to is not spanking new. Most people will not even have their container opened, he government is not trying to catch migrants out here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 It only applies if the item is more than $1000 and less than a year old. I had a bracelet which fitted that when I came in. The guy asked me when I got it. I told him about 10 months before, but that it was second hand. He said that being second hand didn't make a difference, but suggested I probably got it a couple of months before that didn't I? 'Ummm. Yes'. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJa Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share Posted August 3, 2014 Ok, cheers all, I'll bring things over. Definitely only have one of everything and nothing is to be sold on. Cheers. PJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoannaAch Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I remember that in the forms for shipping our belongings there was a question if anything was bought less than 12 months ago. I just marked "no" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzukiscottie Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 http://www.customs.gov.au/faq/Migrants.asp "Household and personal goods owned and used for less than 12 months will be assessed for the payment of customs duty and GST. Receipts/invoices will be requested. Depreciation rates may apply according to the length of ownership." We declared a brand new fridge and a freezer valued at £179 each. Under 12 months old but never used. Manufacturers wrapping removed by the shippers, and re-wrapped in soft packaging. We were charged the GST for the importation of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletchaman Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Are you taxed if you bring your Alcohol cabinet with you, we have alot of celebratory bottles would hate to have to give it all away some of it is collectors bottles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzukiscottie Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) From the same link I posted previously; Certain items are expressly excluded form the definition of “personal and household effects” and are subject to other requirements. These include: Motor vehicles or motor cycles Caravans, boats and trailers Aircraft Machinery, plant and equipment Fur apparel Alcohol and tobacco products Sounds like a pretty good going-away party though! :wink: Edited August 4, 2014 by Suzukiscottie spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxh Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 If an item is new enough that you need to pay GST on coming into Australia, wouldn't also be new enough to enable you to claim back the VAT when leaving the UK? I thought the whole point of the ruling was that you had to pay tax on items somewhere - either the UK or Australia - but you shouldn't have to pay in both countries. What's the ruling on claiming back VAT when you leave the UK - does it mirror the Australian ruling for imports ie less than one year old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzukiscottie Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) In the grand scheme of moving an entire household and a family of 5 to Australia, the wee bit of VAT/GST on a couple of white goods wasn't even on our radar at the time. It was a fairly insignificant piece of the whole move. I appreciate that others may wish to claim back everything that they can. However, my post was specific to the question about moving belongings into Australia. The link I posted didn't mention any threshold for the value of personal effects, only that belongings under a year old will be assessed for payment of customs duty and GST. http://www.customs.gov.au/faq/Migrants.asp Edited August 4, 2014 by Suzukiscottie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletchaman Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 If an item is new enough that you need to pay GST on coming into Australia, wouldn't also be new enough to enable you to claim back the VAT when leaving the UK? I thought the whole point of the ruling was that you had to pay tax on items somewhere - either the UK or Australia - but you shouldn't have to pay in both countries. What's the ruling on claiming back VAT when you leave the UK - does it mirror the Australian ruling for imports ie less than one year old? I do believe you can claim it back at the airport you show them your boarding pass or something like that i do remember reading somewhere so you can claim back 20% and pay 10% not a bad deal realy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) Are you taxed if you bring your Alcohol cabinet with you, we have alot of celebratory bottles would hate to have to give it all away some of it is collectors bottles? Yes you are and it can sting cost wise. Read up on the amounts and then decide if you want to ship or drink. We opted to drink and give it away as honestly, for a few bottles of good whisky it was never worth it. Edited August 4, 2014 by Guest typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletchaman Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Yes you are and it can sting cost wise. Read up on the amounts and then decide if you want to ship or drink. We opted to drink and give it away as honestly, for a few bottles of good whisky it was never worth it. Looks like I will be using the 2.25L allowance to get my prize bottles over then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Are you taxed if you bring your Alcohol cabinet with you, we have alot of celebratory bottles would hate to have to give it all away some of it is collectors bottles? Yes you will need to pay tax on alcohol. We have a few bottles of really good wine and paid tax on those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Looks like I will be using the 2.25L allowance to get my prize bottles over then No clue on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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