dalkener Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Not sure if anyone can help, I've trawled the net seeking an answer and have sent an e-mail to ACS but not sure if they will reply. Submitted an RPL skills assessment, got a positive result back. [h=3]Computer Network and Systems Engineer - ANZSCO 263111[/h] Now, to successfully pass an RPL assessment you require a minimum of 8 years experience. However, they take this 8 years away from your work experience for DIAC. eg. if you have 11 years experience, 8 years is taken away(as equivalent to degree) and you now have 3 years post qualification experience. So, in my current situation I can say I have 3.5 years experience(post RPL/degree) which will give me 5 points of the 60 required to submit EOI 5 years experience is required to gain 10 points. Now, I currently can gain 55 points through age/ielts/experience/state sponsor If I wait a year and half I would have the experience for extra 5 points but will lose 10 for my age!! Don't know what else to do at this stage, my wife originally done a skills assessment but failed as she was over qualified(a degree in bio-chemistry) but her job is more management. Might be time to knock the idea of migrating on the head, we've spent the last 3/4 years trying to get visa. If anyone has suggestions it would be greatly appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goslar Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 how about your IELTs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalkener Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 how about your IELTs? This is how my points would stack up at present: Age 33-39 = 25 points IELTS level 8 = 20 points State sponsored = 5 points 3-5 years work exp = 5 points Gives me 55 points :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srh82 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Do you not get any points for academic qualifications? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalkener Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 Do you not get any points for academic qualifications? Unfortunately no, I have a certain amount of trade certifications but not to a level that would be equal to Diploma. This is why I had to do an RPL assessment, I am in the process of gaining an equivalent certificate to diploma which would give me points. However, I would be required to submit a new skills assessment and only work after certificate awarded would be considered as skilled and I would fail the skills assessment...... I really do think we've exhausted all avenues apart from attempting to get a 457 sponsored visa, very difficult to get these days for IT. Also, I don't think I'd feel secure emigrating on a 457 with 2 toddlers in tow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLP Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 This is how my points would stack up at present: Age 33-39 = 25 points IELTS level 8 = 20 points State sponsored = 5 points 3-5 years work exp = 5 points Gives me 55 points :-( Hi you could go for regional sponsorship, 489 visa which gives you 10 points instead of 5.... thats what we have done as we are over 40 so lost points there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellyk666 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I Would run your situation past a registered migration agent before giving up. I obtained initial advice from Go Matilda who were very good, it was free and I decided not to use them in the end but to do it myself. The advice was still well worth getting though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misstatt Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Could you get some points for your wife's occupation via a skills assessment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I Would run your situation past a registered migration agent before giving up or in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goslar Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 yes, 489 or partner may add points?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalkener Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 Hi you could go for regional sponsorship, 489 visa which gives you 10 points instead of 5.... thats what we have done as we are over 40 so lost points there. Thanks for that, I'll look into it today, wasn't aware that a 489 would give 10 points. Just could be the ticket..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calNgary Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 A few posts have been removed to tidy the thread,please take any issues with each to Private Message and keep it off the forum. Cal x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalkener Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 I think what Westly is quite rightly suggesting is that everybody in any Migration Law situation could benefit from the sound advice of a Registered Migration Agent. In the OP's case they have provided a lot of information and they are getting some good suggestions, but as with a lot of advice on forums it's guesswork and process of elimination. On the other hand there may be something missing that could turn up in a consultation as an agent would be able to quickly ask questions, get answers and look at it from multiple angles. Also if they had originally consulted with an agent they may have prevented wasting 3/4 years on a futile situation. The OP would be well advised to contact a professional as it seems as though they have already invested a great deal into the venture and it would be disappointing for that to end without exploring all avenues. For example the OP says that the RPL process takes 8 years from his work experience, but does he have the skills assessment result to show the exact date they considered him/her as 'skilled', until that is in hand you cannot be sure how much work experience can be claimed. This is also important when considering the 489 option as currently I believe his occupation is only being sponsored for a 489 visa in SA, NT & VIC. SA specify it as having special conditions applying, NT specify a job offer in NT must be held and VIC stipulate at least 3 years experience and certain specialisations being ineligible. If the OP has misjudged the years of employment experience ACS will apply VIC may not be an option. I would suspect WA may include it on their list although it's currently suspended, and NSW are re-opening their nominations on the 14th July but there's no guarantee this will be on either of them. Always lots and lots and lots and lots to consider, a good MARA registered agent would take into account all considerations. Again, thanks for the advice. Unfortunately we tried a registered MARA agent and handed over $1000+ but they were terrible. Initially saying we should apply through my wife as she has a degree and then not understanding what her job is. She failed the skills assessment, degree was relevant but job was not. After this they just put their hands up and said they couldn't help. That's when I decided to apply through the RPL route, which I have now passed. I would like some advice on parts of it instead of trying to dig through info on the net. Such as: ACS have recognized 2 of my last 3 employments as skilled, no mention of my current role which is more relevant and advanced than the previous employments. Without my current role recognized I do not fall into the 3-5 years experience. I replied back to ACS to ask why or should I provide further info and got a standard reply " a new skills assessment can be lodged for $395" I lived in Australia for 3 years when I was younger and now with a young family I liked the idea of having a few years down there with the kids. But I'm becoming disillusioned with the whole process and quite cynical that it's just a money making exercise. Reckon it might just be better to buy something down the south of France TBH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Grey Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Again, thanks for the advice. Unfortunately we tried a registered MARA agent and handed over $1000+ but they were terrible. Initially saying we should apply through my wife as she has a degree and then not understanding what her job is. She failed the skills assessment, degree was relevant but job was not. After this they just put their hands up and said they couldn't help. That's when I decided to apply through the RPL route, which I have now passed. I would like some advice on parts of it instead of trying to dig through info on the net. Such as: ACS have recognized 2 of my last 3 employments as skilled, no mention of my current role which is more relevant and advanced than the previous employments. Without my current role recognized I do not fall into the 3-5 years experience. I replied back to ACS to ask why or should I provide further info and got a standard reply " a new skills assessment can be lodged for $395" I lived in Australia for 3 years when I was younger and now with a young family I liked the idea of having a few years down there with the kids. But I'm becoming disillusioned with the whole process and quite cynical that it's just a money making exercise. Reckon it might just be better to buy something down the south of France TBH Unfortunately there's bad agents as well as good agents, seems like you found the former. In the assessment letter ACS gave you when was the exact date they considered you as 'skilled from' and what employment did they consider as relevant post 'skilled from' date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalkener Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 Unfortunately there's bad agents as well as good agents, seems like you found the former. In the assessment letter ACS gave you when was the exact date they considered you as 'skilled from' and what employment did they consider as relevant post 'skilled from' date? Hi Adam, please see the below excerpt. As I've said my current employment began at the end of the last work quoted. I included my current employment payslips/emails etc but no reference as I advised I did not want to compromise my current position. My current employment is actually more relevant than the previous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Grey Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Ok that's good, if you're sure your present employment is relevant and meets the criteria for the issuance of points you can claim it. I've just had a quick look at the VIC criteria for 489 and even they are specifying the requirement to have a job offer, so for that option it may be a case of waiting to see what NSW or WA include on their lists over the next few weeks. Unless you happen to have a family member living in a designated area of Australia? You also mentioned having trade qualifications but them not adding up to a diploma level? Might be worth clarifying what qualifications they are and whether they can be deemed equivalent to an AQF trade qualification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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