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Hi Alan, Having read the information re- 870 visa, it tells you that you have to be off shore to apply for a subsequent 870 but doesn’t specify whether you have to be off shore to apply for your first 870 visa. Do you have an opinion as to whether you have to be off shore to apply or can apply both on and off shore? I’m sure a lot of people on shore would be relieved to know if you can extend your visit this way. Many thanks for any info, Bridge
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I asked this exact question when passing through border control at Melborne Tullamarine airport and the immigration officer confirmed it's calendar month.
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Regarding the second 600 visa, I wrote a little while ago that we applied for another 600 visa immediately after we left Oz having been in oz for 18 months. We were contacted within two days and granted another visa but only for 3 months. One of the caveats this time was that we must spend considerable time off shore before we apply for another 600 visa. I phoned immigration today to try and get clarification as to what "Considerable time" means. I quickly realised I knew more about the 600 visa that the person on the other end, I was told:- I must be off shore to apply for another visa, Me..can you tell me what considerable time means. Have you thought about a parent visa? Me.. Already applied...can you tell me what considerable time means please. I think a year Me... Can you tell me where you got that from please. I'll have to consult my resources, could you hold the call You have to be off shore for a long time on a 103 visa Me.. I just want to know about 600 visas please and what considerable time off shore means I'll consult my resources. You have to be off shore for 18 months Me... Where did you find that Parents of oz residents etc are normally granted 12 months in 18 months. You've been here for 12 months so now you must wait offshore for 18months. Me....I think you've got that wrong, can I speak to a supervisor. No.... Would you like to take part in our telephone survey. If it wasn't so serious it would be funny. So I'm still no nearer as to what " off shore for a considerable time" means. When we return to Europe I think we'll wait six months and then reapply or apply for a 3 month ETA visa as it's free just to see if it's granted. Anybody know the answer?? to the "considerable time" conundrum.
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Thank you for your concern. We return to Oz for three months in October and I will be ringing Immigration to talk about the Off Shore period. At the end of the day we are lucky we have somewhere to wait off shore and there are worse places than Spain to wait[emoji3][emoji3][emoji3]
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Similar situation to the other two posters. We left Oz at the end of August and because we had to apply off shore for another 600 visa, we applied on landing in Doha. Our original 600 was all singing all dancing and allowed us to spend nearly two years in Oz. We applied for another exactly the same. Heard two days after we arrived back in Spain. Immigration were not very happy that we had spent so long in Oz and as such they awarded us another three months only and told that when we leave Oz the next time we would have to stay off shore for a considerable time (they didn't quantify what a considerable time was). Because I, perhaps naively, included a letter explaining what we had been doing in Oz during our visit. I mentioned we had travelled a lot both in Australia and NZ. We carried out baby sitting for our daughter two days a week when available and to give something back as a thank you to Oz, my wife helped out at Salvos one day a week and I helped clear trails with Parks Victoria one day a month. All of this was done when we were not travelling. Immigration took the view that we were not tourists and could be potentially taking work from Australians. Baby sitting should not be on a regular basis and should be for no more than 12 months. As we have all mentioned before there seems to be little in the way of clarity and uniformity. At the end of the day it's their game and their rules.
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Small world, we also live/lived on the CB Los Balcones, Torrevieja. We had always planned to spend time there and Aus when we got PR. For the last year we haven't been able to leave Aus because of visa restrictions, now we can't live in Aus because of visa restrictions......it's enough to make you drink....more[emoji3][emoji3] As us Spanglish say.... Austin Allegro!!
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Yes, he threatened to resign and cross the floor with other rebel MP's to vote against the govt, however with Malcolm back flipping on the Paris Emmision targets that crisis has been averted....for now. Peter Dutton is in a curious position in that he is probably the second most powerful in the govt but his seat in Queensland is at risk in the next election. The only real option for him to be safe is to run for PM and then hope the Liberals win the next election. He has the backing of Tony Abbott and Barnaby Joyce and other powerful figures in the party. Having listened to all the rhetoric this year over Immigration and how the country can't cope etc etc. My guess is that the Liberal party will run this hard in the coming election. What this means for all of us in the waiting room is more uncertainty and worry I'm guessing. I would suggest that everyone becomes well versed with the issue because ultimately it affects us all. Like a lot of us, we thought we would have our PR's now having been in Oz for nearly two years. The back sliding of dates mean we have to leave in just over a week and wait off shore to see what hand is dealt to us for a return visit. I try to stay positive and leaving freezing Melbourne to return to sunny Spain for a hopefully short visit is a cross I'll bear[emoji3][emoji3]
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Drove from Sydney to Melbourne today and had plenty of time to listen to the radio. Hot news is that Peter Dutton could make a challenge to Malcolm Turnbulls leadership. One commentator said, Peter Dutton would have to make a grand gesture like halting Immigration before people would vote for him. It will be an interesting week next week to put it mildly[emoji15][emoji15][emoji35]
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Average 3 weeks from submission to grant. I guess you won't know until you do it and it's probably different for everybody. No black and white answer I'm afraid.
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A. No B. Look at your current visa that will tell you what you can and can't do. A new 600 visa has to be applied for off shore and no country will allow you to stay on a one way ticket other than your country of passport ie you can't go to Bali and wait for a new Oz visa. You can country hop on one way tickets but it's expensive and tiring. Better to go home and apply again.
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Immigration told me the other week we can apply as soon we are off shore. They didn’t say we would be granted any visa, they just said you can apply. We shall see[emoji3]
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Just a normal application each year, nothing special. This time is the closest between visas we are applying. To be honest I’m not hopeful for a long visa grant however, if you don’t ask you don’t get. The online application makes no mention of any criteria’s and we have never had a” no further visit” etc attached. This last 600 was a one year visa with a multi entry facility that granted a further 12 months on each entry. If we are unsuccessful with a 600 visa we will try for the standard 3 month ETA visa which enabled us to return and put all of our goods and car in storage. We are fortunate to be able to fly back to Europe and wait for our PR’s. the thought of renting a third house in three years is not a good thought. We will also miss the grandies . Hopefully, at worst we will be off shore for no more than 6 months. At least our life is never boring[emoji3][emoji3]
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For us yes, we've had three 600 visas over the years and never been asked for a medical. However because we can combine it to include the Permanent Residency medical we're happy to do it. Trust me compared to going to Madrid to do it this is money well spent. Bridgie
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An update to receiving our Online Medical referral letter. A week has passed by and we haven't received our letter. I phone immigration this morning and they confirmed that if I made an online application I should be able to print my referral letter. I asked whether Home Affairs looked at your application and decided what tests you needed,,,"em,em, let me see what the computer says" we then went through the process again and got back to the same point. "Shall I ring BUPA to ask them?" " Yes, do that. Have we been helpful and answered your query today please stay on the line and complete the survey" I gave them a glowing reference.....Every little bit helps[emoji3] Went round and round in circles trying to find a contact number about referral letters to no avail. I then stumbled upon a page on the Home Affairs site that mentioned if you can't print your referral letter it may be a problem with Pop Up Blockers on your computer. I tried to print the referral letter out again and sure enough a little box in the address bar showed that this site is blocked. I clicked the box and printed the letter out. So no doctor holding up the process just me not knowing enough about computers. Hopefully this will help others in the same situation. Bridgie
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Well we've had a great time in Oz for nearly 21 months on a 600 visa. We have been advised by Immigration that we won't be granted an extension as having a good time is not considered exceptional circumstances ? . I asked how long before we can apply for another 600 visa as was told as soon as you are off shore. I'm not expecting to be granted another year but we will try. Interestingly when applying for the next 600 visa and doing the online application now (ready to press the submit button on landing in Madrid) they have asked for a medical and they also asked whether we were submitting a CPV 143 in the next 6 to 12 months. I pressed yes to which a box popped up and said that If we were prepared to pay the extra for the chest Xray we could do the full medical and combine the 600 and CPV medical. I'm hoping to get it done in Aus before we leave. The Hap ID etc; Is all done online whilst applying for the 600 visa. We have the number and are just waiting for Immigration to tell us what tests etc; they require us to have. We were also asked to provide certified copies of our passports. The certification was done free by our local chemist warehouse. I'll phone Immigration on Monday to chase It and report back Bridgie
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Thanks Peter, I've added my details. Bridgie
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Hi Kev, Where did you find this information, could you post it for clarity. Apologies if I have missed it on a previous thread. Bridgie
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Oh no , Bill Shorten knows about doing it tough, Moonee Ponds is a hotbed of Champagne Socialists, we have to pass their empties as we take our grandie to gymberoo...... Struggle. Seriously, look how the wind is blowing, huge amount of negative press in the Aus papers today about Syrian refugees forcing out white families from Sydney. This is happening day after day, immigration is a hot topic and never let the truth get in the way of an election.
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So are you saying this may be politically driven and every other reason given is less than true[emoji15][emoji15][emoji15]. I am stunned, I never believed this could happen. Still it will be different when Bill Shorten is in power.
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Call me a cynic, but after the departments defeat and U Turn on the AOS matter, I wouldn’t be surprised if they have decided to hold back awarding any more visas until they implement AOS 2.0 after all, we have no target only a ceiling.
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I read it in the daily mail....in colour[emoji3][emoji3]..... But of course whether this is all next year or over 10 years or a ceiling figure who knows. Personally I would give a place up for these people.
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I agree with what you say Ramot, I think it will be a small percentage. Also for the South African farmers, it will be a small percentage. I'm just at a loss why these small percentages are taken from parent visas.
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Susieroo, This is copied from Go Matilda website. I'm guessing Alan Collett will give us an informed opinion. I also think we may not know the full facts until the start of the new financial year. A little worrying that visa classes are leapfrogging 143/173 visa. I'm not sure how many 405,410 visa holders there are or even how many are likely to make the transition. Endure, what else can we do.
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Thanks Alan, appreciate the speedy research. Not good reading for 143/173 applicants.
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Subclass 410 and 405 Visa Holders to be Offered Permanent Visas from the Parent Visa Program 08/05/2018UncategorizedAlan Collett The Australian Federal Budget has been handed down today. Hidden away on page 14 of the revenue measures (pdf reader required) is the following narrative: The Government will introduce a pathway to permanent residency for holders of Retirement (subclass 410) and Investor Retirement (subclass 405) visas. From 2018-19, a portion of the planned parent permanent migration places will be quarantined for retirement visa holders each year. Retirement visa holders in Australia will be eligible to apply onshore for a permanent visa through the Parent (subclass 103) or Contributory Parent (subclass 143) visa streams. Retirement visa holders will be exempted from some parent visa requirements that they would typically be unable to meet, such as having family in Australia. The pathway will remain open until all retirement visa holders who wish to transition to permanent residency have done so. As part of the establishment of the pathway, the Government will close the subclass 405 visa to new applicants. The subclass 410 visa is already closed to new applicants. This measure continues Minister Dutton’s pattern of displacing visa applicants who are already awaiting the progression of an application: he has already undertaken a similar measure when introducing a skilled visa pathway for New Zealand citizens, displacing intending subclass 189 Skilled Independent visa applicants. While this will be good news for the 405 and 410 visa holders in Australia who have been lobbying for permanent residency for many years the consequence for existing parent visa applicants is likely to be increased delays in the granting of their visas. Indeed, we think it is surprising that parents of children in Australia – where the balance of family test is satisfied – will apparently be lower in the visa processing pecking order than those who will often have no other family in Australia.
