Bridgeman
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Since you are allowed to submit your application for the 143 right up until your 173 expires I would assume that you would be granted a bridging visa while your 143 is processed. Just to be sure I would contact the Parent visa centre for confirmation
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First of all are you over 65? In order to be able to apply for the Aged CPV onshore and be granted a bridging visa to allow you to stay in Australia you need to be over 65. Secondly the 600 visa sometimes has a No Further Stay condition imposed on it, and you will not know this till you get your visa, ad this means you will not be able to apply for the onshore CPV. Why not apply offshore before you come and then come for a long visit? Processing time is around 20 months at the moment and you would need to be offshore when the visa is granted. Alternatively, the e-visitor visa which gives stays of up to 3 months at a time, does not normally have the No Further Stay condition imposed on it. Although it is not actually legal to travel to Australia as a visitor with the intention of staying, but people have done it. Be aware that if granted a bridging visa, you will only have limited access to Medicare via the reciprocal healthcare arrangement until your visa is granted.
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Just to clarify the difference between the visas: The 173 and the 143 are both offshore visas, ie your parents need to be offshore when the visa is granted. This is not to say that they can't visit Australia while waiting for the visa, but they need to keep their case officer informed so that the visa is not granted while they are in Australia. They could go elsewhere for a holiday. Going for the 173 first allows them to split the cost of the visa, as they pay roughly half the big VAC and no AOS for the 173. The can lawfully reside in Australia for 2 years (or stay in SA) and need to apply for the 143 before the 2 years are up. They then pay the rest of the big VAC and the AOS. The 864 can be applied for onshore and your parents will be given a bridging visa to allow them to stay in Australia till their visa is granted. Applicants need to be over 65 to do this. The 864 has a quicker processing time, although not sure what it is. Maybe the 173 to 143 route would be the way to go if funds are a problem, although it does cost slightly more in the long run as you pay the charge which is in force at the time of application and this goes up every year. Not sure if you are aware of this thread on here http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/migration-issues/77756-brand-new-pio-parents-visa-thread.html
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Assuming they do not have a 'no further stay' condition imposed on their visa and apply onshore then: 1. The charges are here http://www.immi.gov.au/Help/Pages/fees-charges/visa.aspx The big one you need to worry about is the second VAC which is $43,600 per person. The AOS is required towards the end of the process after the medicals and police checks are accepted and then the second VAC is requested. 2. Not sure how much medical are in Oz. You can find a list of panel doctors here and maybe ring them: https://www.immi.gov.au/contacts/panel-doctors/ For police checks you will need to investigate via the relevant authority in SA. 3. The offshore visa is currently taking around 20 months, the onshore version less I believe but not sure - maybe someone else can answer. 4. The bridging visa will have the same conditions as their original visa, so if this was a tourist visa then, no they will not be able to work. 5. They will not get full Medicare while on a bridging visa and they will only have limited rights to Medicare if SA has a reciprocal health care agreement with Australia. Once the visa is granted they will get Medicare rights.
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Are you aware of the extended visitor visas for parents of permanent residents or citizens? You could visit for a period of up to 12 months at a time in any 18 month period.
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Unfortunately even when they have their permanent visa, they will not be able to claim anything for 2 years anyway. The Commonwealth Seniors Health card which gives some help with prescriptions has a 2 year wait and is for permanent residents. Also with your mum's medical problems have you considered that she may not pass the medical in order to get her visa? I do sympathise as we are here on a permanent parent visa, but most of our pensions are in pounds and as you say the exchange rate makes it difficult. We have also not yet bought a house as we find the house prices ridiculous here and with the now reduced exchange rate from 5 years ago when we started all this.... We are also considering whether we are able to stay here long term and are just hanging on at the moment for family reasons.
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We weren't told anything about the medicals, the next thing we knew we got the request for the AOS. I presume you would hear something though if they were not successful.
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We cancelled our 103 and applied for the 143 and had to pay the initial VAC for the 143. Sometimes the immi admin staff don't always get everything right, but good luck.
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Sorry, no, if she cancels the 103 she will not be reimbursed with the initial VAC and yes, she will have to pay the initial VAC for the 143 - this will not be waived unfortunately.
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I don't think that getting the medicals done again after visa grant will change anything. When the visa is issued it will state a date by which the visa applicant must first enter Australia. If he were to redo the PCC this would have to be done before submitting them to DIBP, ie before visa grant. They would then probably go by the date of the medicals. Don't forget he can validate the visa with a holiday visit, it doesn't have to be permanent.
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The second VAC and AOS are requested just before visa grant and the current waiting time for getting a CO is around 16-18 months at the moment. After you have arranged police checks and medical, if all is OK they will ask you to arrange the AOS. They normally give a standard time of 28 days, however, in practice it often takes longer than this as it depends on Centrelink but as long as you keep the CO informed of progress then it is normally OK. Once the AOS is sorted they will request the second VAC and again give 28 days. This is the norm. You may be able to get another extension if you have a valid reason but I doubt is they would wait for your flat to be sold.
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Have just applied for 143 contributory parent visa
Bridgeman replied to juliew1499's topic in Visa Chat
Not sure if you are aware of the parent visa thread here: http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/migration-issues/77756-brand-new-pio-parents-visa-thread-697.html -
When we cancelled our 103 and applied for our 143, the time we had been waiting on the 103 was taken into consideration. Yes, you do have five years to finally move over. However at the moment it is generally advisable to move over within 3 years to avoid any complications with having to apply for a Resident Return Visa if you have to leave after 5 years even for a holiday, and are not citizens,
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Not sure if everyone is aware, but this might help with planning: When the visa is granted you get one year from the date of either medicals or police checks (whichever is sooner) to validate your visa, that is the date by which you must enter Australia or forfeit the visa. . If you want to travel to Oz sooner rather than later this doesn't matter, but if you have various matters to sort out it might make a difference.
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The AOS process varies depending on which Centrelink office is used. Ours was lodged in Queensland and the whole process took about 10 weeks to complete, but they were notoriously slow at the time. I would say anything from a few weeks onwards.
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The only real visa options for parents now are the contributory visas. The 173/143 are offshore visas, which means the applicant has to be offshore when the visa is granted. You do not need to apply for the temporary visa first, and can apply for the permanent straight off. People sometimes go the temporary then permanent route as this allows them to split the cost although it does end up costing slightly more than going for the permanent straight off and the AOS is not payable until the permanent visa is applied for. As your mother is over 65 she would be eligible to apply onshore for the Aged Contributory Parent visa, either temporary, then permanent, or permanent straight away. She would then be granted a bridging visa to allow her to stay in Australia till the visa is granted. With regard to processing time, I have heard that the onshore visa is being processed slightly quicker than the offshore version. The offshore 173/143 is currently taking around 16-18 months to be processed I believe. Whether she applies onshore or offshore I suppose boils down to how confident you are that she would pass the medical as if she failed she would then have to leave Australia if on a bridging visa, although there are strategies for dealing with this through a good agent. Applying onshore would allow her to be in Australia sooner, although she can only do this is she does not have a 'No Further Stay' condition on her visitor visa. You may not be aware, but she can always apply for a one year visitor visa while she is waiting for her visa to be processed. I assume that she passes the Balance of Family test, ie that she has at least half her children in Australia.
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A good argument for reinstating the parent visa surely?
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Is CGT payable when tranferring house money from the UK?
Bridgeman posted a topic in Money & Finance
From what I have read on the ATO website, when you make a lump sum foreign exchange, if that amount has been held back in the UK and then transferred at a later date to take advantage of a better exchange rate, then I understand that the 'difference' is viewed as a capital gain and that tax is due in Oz on this amount. Fair enough. However, what if this money is from the sale of your primary residence in the UK? Is it possible to make an exception if you can prove that the money was from your house sale and that it is intended to be used to buy a property here? We sold our house in 2011 and invested the money in the UK as at the prevailing exchange rate we would not really have been able to afford the kind of house we would like here, due to the inflated prices of houses in Oz and the interest was partly funding rental costs here. We have recently brought some of the money over to Oz, admittedly at a better exchange rate as we have started to look at buying. It seems vastly unfair that we then have to pay tax on the 'difference' when this money is intended to be used to buy our primary residence here. Any advice appreciated. -
You normally need to have been settled as permanent resident in Australia for 2 years before you can sponsor your father for a Contributory parent visa although they sometimes take temporary residence into consideration. You might want to consult an agent if you intend to apply before you have been a permanent resident for 2 years. When you fill in the sponsorship form they will look at your financial situation for the previous tax year. You can find the income levels for the AOS here: http://guides.dss.gov.au/guide-social-security-law/9/4/3/60 There is nothing to prevent your father from transferring the money for the AOS to you. It's what most parents do. Bear in mind that the Assurer can be different from the sponsor. Anyone who is a permanent resident can be the Assurer.
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1)From what I understand, the 143 visa can be lodged from Aus but you wont be entitled to a bridging visa-Is that correct? Only reason being if we had to lodge it offshore, she has to leave the country, move flights etc-Too much of a hassle! Ie. It is fine to lodge in Australia..just no bridging visa...and she will be able to come back as a tourist whilst the visa is being processed. - See more at: http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/migration-issues/77756-brand-new-pio-parents-visa-thread-688.html#sthash.J5gH1FHV.dpuf Your parents can physically be in Australia when you submit the visa, but there is no bridging visa and they will have to leave when their tourist visa runs out. They must be offshore when the visa is granted. 2)My mum has been here on an eletronic travel authority (601) but there is no visa number attached to it(I think-on her document there's no visa number). What should I put for that on the form as it asks for a visa number?? - See more at: http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/migration-issues/77756-brand-new-pio-parents-visa-thread-688.html#sthash.J5gH1FHV.dpuf We just put tourist visa, electronic travel authority 601 3)I'm not an Australian citizen but PR.....Should I put country of residence as Australia or the country that I am a citizen of? I'm guessing Australia because it says residence and not citizenship. (I am working full time here) - See more at: http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/migration-issues/77756-brand-new-pio-parents-visa-thread-688.html#sthash.J5gH1FHV.dpuf Yes, your country of residence is Australia I would think. Questions 4 and 5 - this just applies to anyone who is applying for the visa, ie your mother,
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I know DIBP don't have to answer to anyone, but this is terrible, the way it's been done with less than one day's notice when most people were expecting it to be closed at the end of June. There must be applicants who have their application in the post, which now will not be accepted as they won't arrive in time. I also think that it is unjust that faxed applications for the parent visa are not accepted, when they are for the other visas. A friend of ours in Melbourne, had just received her parent's application on Friday pm by courier from the UK and after adding her Form 40 was just about to arrange for the application to be sent by courier to Perth when she heard the news. If a faxed application had been accepted it would have been OK. They are obviously devastated.
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Does this mean that you can still lodge on Monday or not?
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Unfortunately it is not possible to sponsor a parent for a remaining relative visa, plus she would not qualify if she has a brother in the UK. The RR visa is also being axed. Also it is only possible to get a bridging visa if she applied for the Aged Parent visa onshore. Not sure about processing times. I believe the onshore visa was taking about 7-8 years and I have heard that the offshore one was also taking this time recently. However, no-one really knows what will happen now that the visa is being axed.
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Myself and OH were in our early sixties. We had travelled around a lot with work and so we thought it would not be so difficult to resettle here, but find it difficult to meet like-minded people at our age. We can't exactly go out to the pubs and clubs!
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I assume you mean you have applied for the normal 103 parent visa which is not contributory and are waiting? Unfortunately, there is not other option than the 173/143 route. If you apply for the 173 first, you need to apply for the 143 after 2 years. This only allows you to split the cost, and actually may cost a little more than going for the 143 straight off as the visa charge will be the one in force at the time of application. When you are granted the 173 you need to pay just over half the final VAC ( don't have the exact figures to hand but its on the link I gave you). When you then apply for the 143 you then have to stump up the remainder of the second VAC and the AOS. Unfortunately, you need to be over 65 to be able to apply for the CPV onshore and there is no bridging visa option for the offshore 143. If you apply for the 173 then you could stay in Australia for 2 years till you apply for the 143. Not sure if you are planning to work in Australia, but I would just like to add that it is often difficult for older migrants to find work.