Bibbs Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Have some friends who are going through a 175 visa, they haven't got their "skills assesment" and their CO has just asked where this is. They didn't do it as it wasn't on their list of things to be done (they have done the rest inc police and medicals). They have been told that they need to basically do this and re-apply. Is there anything they can do? They have come over to Aus, on a 12 month working visas, and both found jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest30085 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Hi Bibbs What occupation have they applied under on the 175? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 The 175 is under a "Agricultural Engineer" - he's a diesel fitter. Based in Perth if it makes a difference. Thanks for the quick reply. The wife an I came out on a Spouse visa, so it's a million miles away from what we went through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest30085 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I no very little to be honest but the 175 does state you require a skills assessment prior to lodging "You must obtain a positive skills assessment before you lodge your application for this visa. This is an evaluation of your qualifications to make sure that you are sufficiently qualified for your nominated occupation." Im just trying to dig out the relevant assessing authority for his trade - someone else may come up with the answer quicker than me - will have a look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest30085 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Its Engineers Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jed Meyers Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I no very little to be honest but the 175 does state you require a skills assessment prior to lodging "You must obtain a positive skills assessment before you lodge your application for this visa. This is an evaluation of your qualifications to make sure that you are sufficiently qualified for your nominated occupation." Im just trying to dig out the relevant assessing authority for his trade - someone else may come up with the answer quicker than me - will have a look AFAIR all engineering trades has to be assessed by Engineers Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest30085 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Previously referred in ASCO as: 2129-13 Engineer - Agricultural Engineer On this page Job description Skill level Skills assessment authority Licensing or registration requirements Professional associations Job description Performs and supervises engineering work related to the use and development of agricultural land, buildings, machines and equipment. Registration or licensing may be required. Skill level This occupation has a level of skill commensurate with a bachelor degree or higher qualification. At least five years of relevant experience may substitute for the formal qualification. In some instances relevant experience and/or on-the-job training may be required in addition to the formal qualification (ANZSCO Skill Level 1). If you require further information on this occupation,please refer to the Australian Bureau of Statistics website. See: Unit Group 2339 - Other Engineering Professionals Information on the skill level of each occupation is consistent with the Australian and New Zealand Standard Classification of Occupations (ANZSCO) and may differ from the requirements set by the assessing authorities for obtaining a skills assessment. Please contact the relevant assessing authority for your nominated occupation to check on their requirements. Skills assessment authority Before you can migrate to Australia as a skilled migrant you must have your skills assessed by the relevant national assessment authority. The assessment authority for your occupation is Engineers Australia. See: Engineers Australia Licensing or registration requirements In many occupations you must be registered with or obtain a license from a local authority in the state or territory where you want to practise your occupation. Contact the local authority in your relevant state or territory to enquire about the licensing or registration requirements. Queensland The Board of Professional Engineers of Queensland See: The Board of Professional Engineers of Queensland Professional associations You may benefit from becoming a member of a relevant industry association for your occupation. This could help you with your employment prospects, networking, contact with industry and professional development and may provide you with important information and support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tony4052 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I no very little to be honest but the 175 does state you require a skills assessment prior to lodging "You must obtain a positive skills assessment before you lodge your application for this visa. This is an evaluation of your qualifications to make sure that you are sufficiently qualified for your nominated occupation." Im just trying to dig out the relevant assessing authority for his trade - someone else may come up with the answer quicker than me - will have a look I expect it will be VETASSESS http://www.vetassess.com.au/ Ops sorry, I am a Heavy Diesel mechanic and I had to use Vetassess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 Thanks again. He has qualifications/skills, just no assesment. From what I gather they have been told, re-do it and re-start the process. This is almost 12 months down the line, so you can imagine they would rather not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jed Meyers Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Thanks again. He has qualifications/skills, just no assesment. From what I gather they have been told, re-do it and re-start the process. This is almost 12 months down the line, so you can imagine they would rather not. That's the price they have to pay for not reading the visa requirements on the DIAC site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest30085 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Ive attached diesel mechanic also which is assessed through Vetassess - from the sounds of it - they may have to re-send after they have obtained a positive assessment. Maybe an agent would be their best bet to see if theres anything they can do Diesel Motor Mechanic - 321212 Previously referred in ASCO as: 4211-11 Motor Mechanic On this page Job description Skill level Skills assessment authority Licensing or registration requirements Professional associations Job description Maintains, tests and repairs diesel motors and the mechanical parts of trucks, buses and other heavy vehicles such as transmissions, suspension, steering and brakes. Registration or licensing may be required. Skill level This occupation has a level of skill commensurate with the qualifications and experience in Australia of AQF Certificate III including at least two years of on-the-job training, or AQF Certificate IV (ANZSCO Skill Level 3). At least three years of relevant experience may substitute for the formal qualifications listed above. In some instances relevant experience and/or on-the-job training may be required in addition to the formal qualification. If you require further information on this occupation, please refer to the Australian Bureau of Statistics website. See: Unit Group 3212 - Motor Mechanics Information on the skill level of each occupation is consistent with the Australian and New Zealand Standard Classification of Occupations (ANZSCO) and may differ from the requirements set by the assessing authorities for obtaining a skills assessment. Please contact the relevant assessing authority for your nominated occupation to check on their requirements. Skills assessment authority Before you can migrate to Australia as a skilled migrant you must have your skills assessed by the relevant national assessment authority. There is a different assessing authority depending on your country of residence. If your country of residence is India, South Africa, Sri Lanka, the Philippines or the United Kingdom, the assessment authority for your occupation is Vocational Education and Training Assessment Services (VETASSESS). See: VETASSESS If your country of residence is any other country, the assessment authority for your occupation is Trades Recognition Australia. See: Trades Recognition Australia Licensing or registration requirements In many occupations you must be registered with or obtain a license from a local authority in the state or territory where you want to practise your occupation. Contact the local authority in your relevant state or territory to enquire about the licensing or registration requirements. Professional associations You may benefit from becoming a member of a relevant industry association for your occupation. This could help you with your employment prospects, networking, contact with industry and professional development and may provide you with important information and support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jed Meyers Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Ive attached diesel mechanic also which is assessed through Vetassess - from the sounds of it - they may have to re-send after they have obtained a positive assessment. Maybe an agent would be their best bet to see if theres anything they can do There is nothing the agent can do except return the money, because it is clearly stated that "You must obtain a positive skills assessment for your nominated occupation before you lodge your application for this visa." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jed Meyers Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 They have come over to Aus, on a 12 month working visas, and both found jobs. One more question: why did they apply for an overseas 175 visa when they were in Australia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest30085 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 One more question: why did they apply for an overseas 175 visa when they were in Australia? Did they apply here and then went over on WHV during the wait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest30085 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 There is nothing the agent can do except return the money, because it is clearly stated that "You must obtain a positive skills assessment for your nominated occupation before you lodge your application for this visa." Sorry I meant about their current circumstances/jobs - if they coud go for a 457 etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 Did they apply here and then went over on WHV during the wait? Bingo. They applied in the UK and then came over (on working visas) to start their life in Aus. Everything was going well till this bump. So I thought I'd at least ask and see what they might be able to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 Sorry I meant about their current circumstances/jobs - if they coud go for a 457 etc Is that company sponsored? I think that's whet they are looking at now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest30085 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Bingo. They applied in the UK and then came over (on working visas) to start their life in Aus. Everything was going well till this bump. So I thought I'd at least ask and see what they might be able to do. Well it doesnt seem a great outlook for the 175 but agents would have far more experience than most of us on here or may suggest other alternatives such as employer sponsorship etc. I wish them luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 That's the price they have to pay for not reading the visa requirements on the DIAC site. Yup, what's done is done unfortunatly. Just trying to work out the best cause of action from where they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest30085 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 just seen your next post - 457 is temporary employer sponsored. If they eventually wanted to go for permanent employer sponsored - then they would still need the assessment by Engineers Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 just seen your next post - 457 is temporary employer sponsored. If they eventually wanted to go for permanent employer sponsored - then they would still need the assessment by Engineers Australia I'll let them know to look into this. Thank you. Thanks to everyone for the replies. At least give us somewhere to start looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Have some friends who are going through a 175 visa, they haven't got their "skills assesment" and their CO has just asked where this is. They didn't do it as it wasn't on their list of things to be done (they have done the rest inc police and medicals). They have been told that they need to basically do this and re-apply. Is there anything they can do? They have come over to Aus, on a 12 month working visas, and both found jobs. The might be a workaround. Advise them to send me an email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Thanks again. He has qualifications/skills, just no assesment. From what I gather they have been told, re-do it and re-start the process. This is almost 12 months down the line, so you can imagine they would rather not. They have no choice. Skills assessment is one of the most basic requirements for skilled migration, I do not even know how they managed to fill in an application form / online form and not realise this is required. I am almost positive it was one of the very first questions. They need to start over and pay a new fee unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 They need to start over and pay a new fee unfortunately. Not necessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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