Grrrr!!!!!!

[Cables]

Gutted, posted here yesterday that we'd paid an agent to represent us and was so excited! Today he calls back and says can't go on Hubby's name cos only got 4 years experience and immigration require 5yrs, cant go on mine cos even though I have 9 years experience and a masters, my occupation (Public Relations) asks for 3 years experience post qualification, and i've only passed last month. He recommends i change my profession to project administrator which is fine but can't do that until after July 1st.... but can't guarantee that it will be still on the list - and will take 3-4 years anyway!! Grrrrrr!! so upset!

 

He told me to pay for english test as this is needed for everyone after July, and also to get vetassess to do my skills - again this is fine but come July I may not have an occupation to go under!

 

so, either hope Project administrator stays on list and get there in 3 years, apply on my public relations in 3 years and then another 1yr for visa to come through, or Hubby keep tiling and apply in 2 years time, again with another year Visa time..... i'm gutted! My kids will be 8 and 5 by then, not the best age to move to the other side of the world.

 

Grrrr, sorry just venting my frustration! :arghh:

[waynecaz]

We started our journey in aug 08 and are still waiting . If you really want to make the move it will be worth the wait .

My childern are also 8 and 5 i think its a great age to take the kids so they can make friends before going to big school .

good luck with eveything . x

[Pumpkin]

Sounds like waiting for your OH to get the extra experience and applying in a years time would be the way to go. Does he pass the new points test?

 

Not sure about this project administrator idea, would you need

state sponsorship for that too?

[Guest perth42]

Don't give up... We were turned down at tra paperbased stage in 2005 - we have never ever given up on the dream. Tra advised us to go away and try again 3-5yrs later... So 5yrs later we started and Oz gov firmly shut the immigration doors and we stuck with it. Got all the evidence/sat the practical tests, changed passports, waited some more until the smp's were released (wa not till 20th dec!) and last month we finally lodged with DIAC after getting ss in feb.

 

If you want it hard enough we are living proof of sticking with the dream when everyone says give up, you're wasting your time and money..where there's a will there's a way!

 

 

Good luck :wink:

[Cables]

Sounds like waiting for your OH to get the extra experience and applying in a years time would be the way to go. Does he pass the new points test?

 

Not sure about this project administrator idea, would you need

state sponsorship for that too?

 

 

Yep, think we;ll have to wait another 2 years for OH to get 5 years under his belt, then apply for Visa, think he can do the AQF assessment earlier because that only requires 3 years I believe, or maybe 4. English test can be done in advance too. Yep, state sponsorship for any occupation for me as i'm classed as a professional, and occupation not in demand like OH's. Just have to wait til July I guess and see what new rules that brings.

Thanks!

[Sherbetdip23]

Hiya

 

How frustrating for you! Just thought I would let you know that our girls are 8 and 7 and we probably won't get visas until they are 9 and 8 - that's still before they go to "big school" I just hope we get our visas in time before our girls are 11.

 

Good luck! Hope you work something out :eek:

[Guest VickyMel]

I hope you did not pay the agent too much at this stage - many of them will give you a free assessment that would have checked your occupations and seen whether you were eligible.

 

If you do go ahead and pay for your IELTS - I would consider waiting until you are closer to submitting - I think (but really not sure) it may only be valid for a year?? (corrected, thanks to sugarvalentine see below - it is 2 years )

[sugarvalentine]

I started the process two years ago and managed to applied only this month. While the long process of gathering the required papers you don't realise how easy the time flies on. The demanded minimum work experience for your OH will be needed at the moment of applying, which eg could be in a year time from now, so things may flow naturally for your case. And, in parallel, you may indulge yourself with an Oz holiday (in WA tilers are needed because of the boom there) and, why not, find a sponsor and apply for a 457, which will get you down under in a matter of months. So be +.

 

PS - the IELTS is valid for 2 years.

[furkew]

My kids will be 8 and 5 by then, not the best age to move to the other side of the world.

 

Grrrr, sorry just venting my frustration! :arghh:

 

I vented many times on forums during the migration process & so have many others. If you really want it to happen, you just need to either be patient or find the right path and you will get it sorted.

 

As for the kids ages, I cant see what the problem is. Great ages IMO. My 2 were 9 & 12 at the time and didnt speak English either (wife Dutch, and I always spoke Dutch in the house)

 

Kids are now 12 & 15, loving every thing about Oz and spoke fluent English after 2 months.

 

Dont worry about the kids, they are the easy ones.

 

Good luck with everything.

[Alan Collett]

Agreed - what's wrong with moving kids aged 8 and 5?

 

Ours were 10 and 4 when we moved, and there were no problems of any significance.

 

If you said 18 and 15 ... well that's another ball game ...

 

Best regards.

[Cables]

Agreed - what's wrong with moving kids aged 8 and 5?

 

Ours were 10 and 4 when we moved, and there were no problems of any significance.

 

If you said 18 and 15 ... well that's another ball game ...

 

Best regards.

 

 

Nothing wrong as such with the ages but son is getting involved now with sports clubs etc and just feel awful if I took him away from all his mates at the age of 8... he would be in 2nd year Junior school so would much prefer to take him earlier

[ali]

We moved when our children were 7 and 11 - it was a great age for them. I think the worst ages are late teens

[Alan Collett]

Nothing wrong as such with the ages but son is getting involved now with sports clubs etc and just feel awful if I took him away from all his mates at the age of 8... he would be in 2nd year Junior school so would much prefer to take him earlier

 

Sorry - I disagree.

 

In any event you can't wind the clock back.

 

Do you really want to move to Australia?

 

Best regards.

[Guest Jamie Smith]

I don't mean to seem unfeeling, but the the thing that's changed is priorities. You still have choices, as below.

 

Please note that no-one has had a visa refused yet, or been given a definite "no".

 

All the Govt has done is reshape the process, and skim the ones off the top who are deemed in highest and critical demand (mostly medical, some engineering, some IT) and allow only them to get PR straight away.

 

Everyone else either goes through the system and waits the allotted period (which I agree is a bit long) or proves their worth to the Government by securing a sponsored visa.

 

Nobody wins if a migrant arrives with skills that are not so popular or are too specialised. It's hard enough finding work in one's area of expertise. So the Government has washed its hands of selecting who else gets a visa and delegated this to the States and employers via sponsorship.

 

It comes back to the applicant to either show they are wanted and obtain higher priority, or join a queue that is only moved along after the higher priorities occupations and job-offer-holders are cleared first.

 

So your first choice is

 

 

• to go to the extra effort of obtaining the sponsorship (employer or state), or
  
• join the queue.
  

 

Think of the visas as being like products.

 

The high priority product visa includes a key ingredient of fast PR and can only be purchased if you hold a Platinum class Amex/Diners (i.e. you are on the critical skills list). Naturally the Government goes out of its way to attract and satisfy these high value customers. Fast processing, unrestricted locations and PR is the sales bait.

 

The state sponsored and employer sponsored ones are for people who can show they have a good credit limit on their gold class Mastercard (a reasonable skill set or job offer, deemed as high value but not platinum class level).

 

These ones can get a visa after all the Platimum class members are served. (Don't you hate that at airports and hotels!). These second tier customers are served a range of products that were created by drawing down or omitting a mix of product features - speed of processing, location limitations, permanent residency, employer involvement etc.

 

The others who aren't a) platinum or b) gold class holders would then be deemed to be "lower value" card holders or cash only customers.

 

i.e. people with somewhat less in demand skills, or who are purely 457 candidates mostly employed for a fixed purpose.

 

These less "valuable" products are the dusty and tatty labelled slower moving items you only sell or process when nothing else is left.

 

I guess a retailer would be saying "take it or leave it, that's the price", before leaping forth to serve the gold or platinum class customer standing behind you in the queue.

 

You sell these ones to fill the gaps and help reach "turnover" targets.

 

I guess that the best way now is to think of a visa grant as a gift and the process is something like a university qualification where already talented people are taken in for further skills development, knowing that there might not be such demand for the skills learned on graduation.

 

The more frustrating way of approaching things is to think that the visa is being acquired like a dog registration, where you stands in a queue, you pays your fee and you gets your piece of paper.

 

DIAC are no longer the city council, they are the high street shopkeepers with credit card facilities.

 

As for the age of kids, the worst time theirmight be when their first boy/girl friends are on the scene or final year exams loom.

 

That said, I've worked with families whose kids were teenagers, and as soon as they made friends in sport or joined the surf club, they stopped being homesick. Participation is the key. Australia itself tends to solve the problem.

[Guest cire]

Don't give up......

We started in the beginning of 2008. Got a 457 Visa in the end of that year, then went to Australia and stopped our process as permanent resident. In the middle of 2009, during the downturn, I was made redudant and flyed back. Then started again the hole process in the middle of 2009. We survived of all changes during 2010 and now, 10 Ielts before, 6 skills assessments done, 2 applications done with DIAC and have health results there waiting to be finalized...

[Alan Collett]

It occurs to me that in implementing e-visa lodgment for general skilled visas - in 2007 I recall - the Department of Immigration wanted to streamline the visa application process and enable them to be more efficient.

 

What seems to have happened is that since e-visa applications were introduced many more intending skilled migrants are now applying for visas - perhaps because it now seems easier to do so - with the result that we have a significant queue, particularly in priority category 4.

 

Of course, this may be coincidence. But I wonder what the situation would have been in terms of numbers applying and skilled visa processing timelines if DIAC had retained the requirement that all applications were to be submitted on paper by post/courier.

 

Onwards!

[Cables]

Sorry - I disagree.

 

In any event you can't wind the clock back.

 

Do you really want to move to Australia?

 

Best regards.

 

 

 

Go Matilda (your a migration company right??) Not wanting to wind clock back, he's still only 4! Only saying that if I heard that if the only chance was to go in 3 or 4 years time, it would upset me emotionally to take him from his mates.... whereas at a younger age, this would be much easier.

 

However, since posting this thread, ball is moving with our fantastic agent, so looking at approx 12-18 months which I am much happier about!