redrobbersdog Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Oh right, that has taken me by surprise! I wonder where I got that myth from? That's great, thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Samantha MacRae Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 You use your UK address first, if you are still in UK. They will then send you a copy of the certificate that you'll need for customs and you give this to the shipping company. Once you get to Aus, you contact them again and provide your Aus address, and they will send you the original set of certificates (there are four). I would apply around 2 months before you plan to ship the car, you should know by then who you'll be using as your shipping agent. This is a little scary.... We are Aussies living in the UK and are wanting to bring our car back with us to Australia. This thread is MASSIVE! and I'm probably going to ask the same questions but... We would like a quick delivery to Aus so RORO should be the best method right? Is there a preferred company to use? We are wanting to take back a Renault Grand Scenic manual diesel 2011, are we crazy to do this, we thought it would save us money in the long run... We understand you need to own the car for a year before transportation but how early do I need to organise the shipping?? Any info/tips would be helpful to reduce import costs.... Samantha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwkl Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 RORO would be quickest. Can't recommend as didn't use RORO, but speak with Iron Chef, Kakimoto as they have been very helpful to a lot of members here. As you quoted me, about 2 months before you leave you should apply for your import permit. Total timescales from shipping to on the road will vary but should be between 2 months & 4 months, although I've read have been as long as 6 months with problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Samantha MacRae Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 pwki - did you expect it was going to cost you so much?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwkl Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I didn't discover this website until after I shipped my car so I had a ballpark figure in my mind, estimated by my shipping company and some online calculators. It turns out that it cost 50% more than I had anticipated, mainly due to not knowing/understanding about marine insurance and the local state (NSW) taxes. But once it was on its way, there was nothing I could do about that. Having said that, it was/is totally worth it but really dependent on the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest67761 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) Please keep in mind that we have lot of good experience with every aspect of the vehicle importing process to Australia including payment of import duty, taxes and all of the various costs associated with each specific state. We can help you with an accurate estimate of the costs you are likely to face based on your specific vehicle and circumstances. If you wanted a ball park cost breakdown to get started then please provide the following information and I will be more than happy to help: - year of manufacture - make, model & variant - body type (coupe, convertible, etc) - engine size & fuel type - transmission - drive type (4WD, front wheel drive, etc) - mileage (kms or miles?) - any special features or options - does it have aircon - realistic current UK market value - which city/state of Australia Cheers, Craig Edited April 23, 2012 by Guest67761 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cronemeister Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Please keep in mind that we have lot of good experience with every aspect of the vehicle importing process to Australia including payment of import duty, taxes and all of the various costs associated with each specific state. We can help you with an accurate estimate of the costs you are likely to face based on your specific vehicle and circumstances. If you wanted a ball park cost breakdown to get started then please provide the following information and I will be more than happy to help: - year of manufacture - 2006 - make, model & variant Audi A3 - body type (coupe, convertible, etc) 5dr sportback - engine size & fuel type 2.0L TDI (diesel) - transmission - Manual - drive type (4WD, front wheel drive, etc) - FWD - mileage (kms or miles?) - 47,000 miles - any special features or options - twin sky panoramic roof system, privacy glass to the rear, chrome roof rails - does it have aircon - Climate Control - realistic current UK market value - £8000 - which city/state of Australia - VIC Cheers, Craig Hi Kakimoto, I've put my vehicle details in above. Could you please give me a ballpark figure please. Thanks., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Samantha MacRae Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 - year of manufacture - 2011 - make, model & variant - Renault Grand Scenic - body type (coupe, convertible, etc) - engine size & fuel type - diesel - transmission - 1.9 maunal - drive type (4WD, front wheel drive, etc) - mileage (kms or miles?) 12000miles - any special features or options - does it have aircon - yes - realistic current UK market value - £21000 - which city/state of Australia - Canberra Australia Is that the info you needed Kakimoto33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest67761 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 - year of manufacture - 2006 - make, model & variant Audi A3 - body type (coupe, convertible, etc) 5dr sportback - engine size & fuel type 2.0L TDI (diesel) - transmission - Manual - drive type (4WD, front wheel drive, etc) - FWD - mileage (kms or miles?) - 47,000 miles - any special features or options - twin sky panoramic roof system, privacy glass to the rear, chrome roof rails - does it have aircon - Climate Control - realistic current UK market value - £8000 - which city/state of Australia - VIC Hi Kakimoto, I've put my vehicle details in above. Could you please give me a ballpark figure please. Thanks., Normally I would expect an Audi like this to work as a good option to import however the numbers don't work in your favor on this one. It would likely cost around $8,300 to get this car shipped to Australia including all port fees, import duty, taxes and on-road costs. This means the car would owe you a few thousand more than it would probably be worth in Australia, therefore it would only be a good option if you were really attached to the car and wanted to keep it for a fair while once you get to Australia. Cheers, Craig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest67761 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 - year of manufacture - 2011- make, model & variant - Renault Grand Scenic - body type (coupe, convertible, etc) - engine size & fuel type - diesel - transmission - 1.9 maunal - drive type (4WD, front wheel drive, etc) - mileage (kms or miles?) 12000miles - any special features or options - does it have aircon - yes - realistic current UK market value - £21000 - which city/state of Australia - Canberra Australia Is that the info you needed Kakimoto33 Hi Samantha, There are not many of these models available in Australia to do a really detailed comparison and the newest mode I can find is a 2008 so that would not be a good price comparison either. On top of that they stopped selling them here in 2010 and they were never available in a diesel version or with manual transmission, so it would an odd vehicle here in Australia which means it could be harder to get parts for if something unavailable here were wrong, insurance costs would most likely be higher and when you come to sell it might be hard to find a buyer. Even if you overlook these issues, based on the current value provided and an estimated Australian value for our calculations it would cost you somewhere around $9,300 to get this car to Canberra (transported via Sydney) and on the road with all costs paid. Including the current car value to get an idea of value it would owe you more than $42,000 which is pretty much the price they were brand new in Australia, therefore it's really not a good option to bring with you unfortunately. I would absolutely suggest selling this car in the UK and looking for something else once you get to Australia. Regards, Craig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Samantha MacRae Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Hi Samantha, There are not many of these models available in Australia to do a really detailed comparison and the newest mode I can find is a 2008 so that would not be a good price comparison either. On top of that they stopped selling them here in 2010 and they were never available in a diesel version or with manual transmission, so it would an odd vehicle here in Australia which means it could be harder to get parts for if something unavailable here were wrong, insurance costs would most likely be higher and when you come to sell it might be hard to find a buyer. Even if you overlook these issues, based on the current value provided and an estimated Australian value for our calculations it would cost you somewhere around $9,300 to get this car to Canberra (transported via Sydney) and on the road with all costs paid. Including the current car value to get an idea of value it would owe you more than $42,000 which is pretty much the price they were brand new in Australia, therefore it's really not a good option to bring with you unfortunately. I would absolutely suggest selling this car in the UK and looking for something else once you get to Australia. Regards, Craig. Thats for the info Craig all the points you make are exactly why we want to bring it back to Australia, we love the Scenic but couldn't get a newer model back in Australia. We used to have a Honda Accord Euro luxury before coming to the UK so we are used to high insurance costs. We have already spoken to Renault in Australia and like every other Renault all parts are imported so they would just import any parts required for our service. We plan on keeping this car until it is dead and worth nothing to us any more so that also helps with the selling it issue. Does the $9300 include the cost to get it to Australia? Really appreciate your help, is there a preferred company to transport cars with and can you RORO with car seats in the car? ta Samantha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest67761 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) Thats for the info Craig all the points you make are exactly why we want to bring it back to Australia, we love the Scenic but couldn't get a newer model back in Australia. We used to have a Honda Accord Euro luxury before coming to the UK so we are used to high insurance costs. We have already spoken to Renault in Australia and like every other Renault all parts are imported so they would just import any parts required for our service. We plan on keeping this car until it is dead and worth nothing to us any more so that also helps with the selling it issue. Does the $9300 include the cost to get it to Australia? Really appreciate your help, is there a preferred company to transport cars with and can you RORO with car seats in the car? ta Samantha Hi Samantha, I totally understand the idea of wanting something different and/or better than what is available in Australia because I feel the exact same way, however most people are not prepared for the trouble that can come when they don't understand the differences and possible consequences. For example, even with Renault saying that they can get parts it may still be a case of it taking 4-6 weeks rather than being available off the shelf for a model which is sold locally, although most parts will be the same as some local models it still pays to expect the worst. Insurance for models which were sold here but have a different engine, fuel type, year range, etc. can be hard because most of the mainstream insurers will simply not take offer cover, so you would need to look at a specialist insurer most likely unless you are quite lucky and they will almost always charge considerably more. To give you an real example, a while back I had a older model 1988 Nissan Maxima imported from Japan which was identical to what was available locally although they only started selling them here in 1989 therefore most insurers wouldn't cover me because they just didn't have a 1988 Nissan Maxima on their list. If it was a 1989 model they would have covered me at a cost of around $370/year but in the end I had to get a policy with a specialist company at $855/year. So as you can see it can be a considerable difference, however if you are prepared for that then there is no real problem. The $9,300 estimate given includes the freight from Southampton to Port Kembla (just south of Sydney), all port charges, customs clearance, import duty, GST, transport to Canberra, modifications required to meet Australian road regulations, road registration and stamp duty costs, as well as our service fee .. basically everything needed from the port in the UK through to being ready to drive in Australia. It sounds like you are going into this with eyes wide open and you seem to know what you want and what to expect, so I think you will be fine bringing this car with you on that basis. We would be more than happy to help you with the process. We can arrange transport to the port in Southampton if required, we would need to get a current location in order to get a quote. RORO freight doesn't normally allow items to remain inside the car however a baby seat would be attached and therefore 'could' be considered as part of the car or an accessory, so the only other issue then would be if the seats were stolen during transit which is unlikely but worth considering. Please just let me know when you are ready to get the ball rolling and we will get things started for you. You can PM me on this forum or email directly to craig@ironladyimports.com Cheers, Craig. Edited April 24, 2012 by Guest67761 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr luvpants Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 hi, My in laws are going for an aged parent visa and so will not have PR for some years. They want to bring their merc over. What are the tax implications and how much for your service? JOHN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest67761 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 hi, My in laws are going for an aged parent visa and so will not have PR for some years. They want to bring their merc over. What are the tax implications and how much for your service? JOHN Hi John, Assuming they qualify for the aged parent visa then they are allowed to stay on in Australia without any time limit, therefore they should be able to bring the car with them as long as they also meet the criteria required for a personal vehicle import (12 months ownership, etc) We have 3 levels of service depending on how much assistance you require. Most people choose the 'A Package' at AUD$990 however if you are keen to take on some of the process without us then you can opt for either our 'B Package' at AUD$660 or the 'C Package' at only AUD$330. You can read about the differences between the packages on our website at http://www.ironladyimports.com I would be happy to give you an idea of the cost involved in bringing the car to Australia if you can provide more information as follows: - year of manufacture - make, model & variant - body type (coupe, convertible, etc) - engine size & fuel type - transmission - mileage - any special features or options - does it have aircon - realistic current UK market value - estimated Australian value (if known) - city/state where they will be living Regards, Craig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr luvpants Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 year of manufacture 2003 - make, model & variant Mercedes E320 Avantgarde CDi - body type (coupe, convertible, etc) Estate - engine size & fuel type Diesel 3.2L - transmission Automatic - mileage 50000 miles - any special features or options - does it have aircon YES - realistic current UK market value £9000 - estimated Australian value (if known)$30000 - city/state where they will be living QLD Look forward to hearing from you. JOHN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest67761 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 year of manufacture 2003 - make, model & variant Mercedes E320 Avantgarde CDi - body type (coupe, convertible, etc) Estate - engine size & fuel type Diesel 3.2L - transmission Automatic - mileage 50000 miles - any special features or options - does it have aircon YES - realistic current UK market value £9000 - estimated Australian value (if known)$30000 - city/state where they will be living QLD Look forward to hearing from you. JOHN Hi there John, Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, I have been unable to get near the computer due to an accident resulting in a broken ankle. Based on the figures you have provided it works out that you should encounter costs of somewhere around $10,050 all up. This would be $6,770 for freight costs (ocean freight, port fees, customs clearance, import duty and taxes), $1,040 for paperwork costs assuming you use our 'A Package', and around $2,240 for on-road costs. When you consider these costs in addition to the current vehicle value it would end up owing you almost $6,000 less than the Australian value you have mentioned, therefore it could be a decent option to bring with you. Please let us know if you need any more information, or if you wanted to use our service to get things moving. Regards, Craig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fiona77 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Wow....Fair play, that was a great help!!! We've been trying to find this type of info on importing our car (2003 Mitsubishi Evo) for AGES!! Could you just answer one more question for us please.... What is the Compliance Cert we should get before importing our car, or does It not aply to Personal Imports? Well done on a fantastic thread!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lizzy5150 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Hi all. We are moving over on a 457 visa so we should be able to get our car in without paying duties & customs for 12 months but if we decide to stay on what happens? Can we extend. I love our car but I don't think the particular model is over in Oz. 2003 AUDI A4 2.5 TDI 180 Quattro Sport 4dr Tip Auto Diesel.4 Door Saloon, Blue, Diesel, Automatic, Alarm, Electrically adjustable drivers seat, Lumbar support, Heated door mirrors, Height adjustable drivers seat, Rear electric windows. 120,000kms. Worth approximately 4k GBP. Any advice is welcome. :biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest67761 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Wow....Fair play, that was a great help!!! We've been trying to find this type of info on importing our car (2003 Mitsubishi Evo) for AGES!! Could you just answer one more question for us please.... What is the Compliance Cert we should get before importing our car, or does It not aply to Personal Imports? Well done on a fantastic thread!!!! Before you bring any car into Australia you need an import approval. This can take 3-6 weeks to process however it can be done up to 6 months after you arrive in Australia if necessary although we would always suggest getting it done as early on in the process as possible. Compliance, at least to us, means the modifications required for the car to meet Australia road registration and or roadworthy laws. Basically making the car comply with the local regulations here. This can only be done by a licenced engineer here in Australia so there is nothing you can do with regards to this before the car arrives here. There are differences between the compliance work required for personal imports and vehicles imported under other schemes. A 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer EVO could come in under either the personal import laws if you meet the ownership and visa criteria, otherwise if the car is fairly standard in condition and has no previous accident history then it could possibly come under the "Specialist and Enthusiast Vehicle Scheme" because it happens to be one of the few makes/model on the list for that scheme. This has tougher requirements and usually higher costs so I would only look at this as a second option. Regards, Craig. Hi all. We are moving over on a 457 visa so we should be able to get our car in without paying duties & customs for 12 months but if we decide to stay on what happens? Can we extend. I love our car but I don't think the particular model is over in Oz. 2003 AUDI A4 2.5 TDI 180 Quattro Sport 4dr Tip Auto Diesel.4 Door Saloon, Blue, Diesel, Automatic, Alarm, Electrically adjustable drivers seat, Lumbar support, Heated door mirrors, Height adjustable drivers seat, Rear electric windows. 120,000kms. Worth approximately 4k GBP. Any advice is welcome. :biggrin: You may misunderstand the personal import scheme a little. Let me just clarify to be sure everyone reading this has it correct. If you are moving to Australia on a 457 visa and you have owned and used the car overseas for at least the past 12 months then you may qualify to bring the car as a personal import. This only means that you will get import approval to bring it to Australia, however you will still need to pay all of the normal import duty and taxes upon arrival, there is no exemption from these costs for a personal import. Once you have the car in Australia it can remain here for ever. There is no restriction on you selling it here if you choose either. The car you have was not available here in such a high specification but based on the nearest variant I would expect this car to be worth somewhere around $13,000 to $17,000 in Australia. Using an average of these figures for our calculations it works out that this car would cost you around $4,950 for ocean freight, import duty, taxes, port fees and customs clearance + around $1,040 for import approval and our fee + $1,840 for road registration costs = around $7,830 in total to get it to Australia and on the road. I hope this helps you decide if it's a good option to bring with you or not. Regards, Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lizzy5150 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Hi Craig, Many thanks for the information and the fees listed.. I am not really looking into the personal import scheme right now. I am actually considering taking the car in under carnet de passage through the RAC or similar or Section 162 of the Customs Act 1901. This way we do not pay the duties and customs clearance for 12 months and it can be extended. I am just wondering what happens regarding reg fees then and insurance. Has anyone done this. I think because we will be on temp visa that we should be able to do it but I don't know if we still need to do a import approval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest exetergirl Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Just a side note: I imported my 2005 BMW 330ci. The biggest hassle was getting the paperwork together, and then waiting for the permit to arrive (paperwork took way longer than I thought). The car came over in our container, and we paid about $3,500 in tax on it (oh and another fee for it to be steam cleaner, which it had already had done in the UK....so dont bother IMO. Just accept you will have to pay Oz side). My car was worth about £9k in the UK and I just sold it for $25k (not practical where I now live, and change of circumstances meant I didnt need 2 cars, so kept Nissan Navara), which was too low as it turned out - as I had hundreds of calls. But I was well happy with the price. So all good. PS: noone was bothered about it being a UK import. Ozzies love fast, smart cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest67761 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Hi Craig, Many thanks for the information and the fees listed.. I am not really looking into the personal import scheme right now. I am actually considering taking the car in under carnet de passage through the RAC or similar or Section 162of the Customs Act 1901. This way we do not pay the duties and customs clearance for 12 months and it can be extended. I am just wondering what happens regarding reg fees then and insurance. Has anyone done this. I think because we will be on temp visa that we should be able to do it but I don't know if we still need to do a import approval. Temporary residents can import a vehicle for personal use under a Carnet de Passage. You do not require a Vehicle Import Approval if your vehicle is imported temporarily into Australia on a Carnet. You may apply for a Carnet in your country of residence, which will require you to put up a security deposit to the National Guarantee Organisation (NGO), prior to the vehicle arriving in Australia. Even on a Carnet the car would still need to be cleared by Australian Customs and passed by AQIS (Australian Quarantine Inspection Service) just like any other imported car. The real deal breaker for most is the security deposit which for cars coming to Australia is £8,000 + 150% of the vehicle value. Obviously this is much higher than the normal 5% import duty and 10% GST you would pay when importing the car to Australia as a personal import, therefore financially most people would be far better off just importing the car as a personal import. There is a lot more to consider in the equation of course so I would strongly encourage you to talk to us in person if you wanted some help with the decision making process, then we can find out more about your situation specifically and offer the best possible information and advice. Best wishes, Craig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest67761 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Just a side note: I imported my 2005 BMW 330ci. The biggest hassle was getting the paperwork together, and then waiting for the permit to arrive (paperwork took way longer than I thought). The car came over in our container, and we paid about $3,500 in tax on it (oh and another fee for it to be steam cleaner, which it had already had done in the UK....so dont bother IMO. Just accept you will have to pay Oz side). My car was worth about £9k in the UK and I just sold it for $25k (not practical where I now live, and change of circumstances meant I didnt need 2 cars, so kept Nissan Navara), which was too low as it turned out - as I had hundreds of calls. But I was well happy with the price. So all good. PS: noone was bothered about it being a UK import. Ozzies love fast, smart cars. Import approval applications can take a while if you don't get the initial lot of paperwork just right. They take forever to re-check the revised paperwork every time you need to add or update it, so it's really a good idea to send more information in the first instance. I am glad to hear that you sold the car quickly and easily. The price at $25,000 was a bargain so I am not surprised that you were flooded with calls, you could have sold a car like that for around $30,000 to $35,000 without too much trouble I would expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bbybear24 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Hi Iron Chef... Thank you for all the info you have put down :biggrin: Can you help? My Fiance and I are currently in Oz on a 457 and are looking to take our 2009 Vauxhall VXR8 over. This is actually a Holden and we were wondering how we would stand with importing it over here? Also would taxes not have already been paid when they were shipped over to the UK, or does that not matter? Also any advice on which is the best company to use? Thanks:biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest67761 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Hi Iron Chef...Thank you for all the info you have put down :biggrin: Can you help? My Fiance and I are currently in Oz on a 457 and are looking to take our 2009 Vauxhall VXR8 over. This is actually a Holden and we were wondering how we would stand with importing it over here? Also would taxes not have already been paid when they were shipped over to the UK, or does that not matter? Also any advice on which is the best company to use? Thanks:biggrin: Vehicles built in Australia specifically for export and sale as a new car in other countries have special tax exemptions from the Australian Government when they are exported by the manufacturer, basically meaning that they are claiming back taxes so when that vehicle is imported it would still be subject to normal import duty and taxes unfortunately. The best company to use would be us! Let me know when you are ready to get started and we will be more than happy to help you out. Best wishes, Craig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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