General Consensus re New Visa Applications?

[munchkinpie]

Just wondered if any of those who were just about to take the first steps in their Visa Application are having a change of heart in respect of when to submit etc?

 

We have yet to submit our visa application and are now going to concentrate the next 6 months with oh seeking employment with a hope for sponsorship (ENS121)

 

We have decided to ride out the next 6 months with hope and prayer ...and big toes crossed :wacko: ...... that by mid 2010 oh occupation is still on whichever new lists the powers that be throw at us!

 

What are other "newbies" thinking? Anyone think we are shooting ourselfs in the foot by hanging off?

 

All constructive comments appreciated.

 

xxx

[Guest Stevebel]

Just wondered if any of those who were just about to take the first steps in their Visa Application are having a change of heart in respect of when to submit etc?

 

I don't have a choice here.

 

For the independent visa, I absolutely needed the MODL points. Without them, there's no point in even trying.

 

I'm still very much in the early stages of the process, and have plenty of preparatory work to do (including the RPL process), so it doesn't have any immediate effect on my activities but I now know that I won't be submitting any form of visa application until after I see the new CSL, and only then if one of my skills is on the list.

 

If not, then I'll either be applying for a state-sponsored visa or securing a job offer first. Either will get me into Oz, but neither will give me the absolute flexibility I wanted - a chance to look around and decide where to settle.

 

So having been through the cursing of self for procrastinating too long and not having already applied, I'm now trying to be pragmatic.

 

Worst case, I'll have to do the planned 3 month reccy on a tourist visa (albeit much earlier than planned!!) and THEN having decided exactly where I want to stay, return to the UK and submit a visa application either for State Sponsorship or with a job offer in-hand, probably buffered by somebody like Lester to avoid the absolute tie-in to a single employer.

 

I read somewhere on one of the Australian government websites that it's possible to effectively buy your way into WA with A$400k, which is another option... although I didn't really see WA as *the* place I'd end up settling.

 

Oh well. It's early days yet, and what I do from now will be entirely led by my agent, who clearly knows best

 

The funny thing is, and my profound apologies to all who are affected and take umbrage at this.... I am very much in favour of a restrictive immigration policy of the sort laid out to the Press. So although it pains me to admit it, I support what they're aiming to achieve here.

[Guest Gollywobbler]

Hi Munchkinpie

 

I've just looked through a few of your earlier posts in order to work out what your OH does, exactly,

 

According to you he is a Visual Effects Technical Director, which is on the ENSOL but not the SOL. According to the agents that you spoke to at the Expo, they think that Hubby is probably an IT wizard of some sort and therefore he is probably on the SOL.

 

Has anything been decided about what Hubby's occupation really is in Aussie terms, please? I think that this is the key thing that will decide what your strategy ought to be for the next few months.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

[Guest Gollywobbler]

Hi Stevebel

 

For the independent visa, I absolutely needed the MODL points. Without them, there's no point in even trying.

 

The eligibility points for a subclass 175 visa are set out below:

 

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/175/eligibility-applicant.htm

 

Deduct the 15 MODL points, please. How many points do you then have left and how have you worked them out, please?

 

For instance did you include an extra 10 points for the IELTS in your original calculations?

 

Cheers

 

Gill

[Guest Jamie Smith]

Munchkinpie, you're on the right track. Employers issues notwithstanding, the most reliable way forward at present is via an employer sponsored visa. Everything else is subject to capping after other visa quotas, occupational listing changes, points changes and the like.

[munchkinpie]

Hi Munchkinpie

 

I've just looked through a few of your earlier posts in order to work out what your OH does, exactly,

 

According to you he is a Visual Effects Technical Director, which is on the ENSOL but not the SOL. According to the agents that you spoke to at the Expo, they think that Hubby is probably an IT wizard of some sort and therefore he is probably on the SOL.

 

Has anything been decided about what Hubby's occupation really is in Aussie terms, please? I think that this is the key thing that will decide what your strategy ought to be for the next few months.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

 

 

Hi Gill

Thank you for your reply. We were advised by one agent that a lot of the time the job title isnt exactly the important thing but its more to do with what you actually do in your role. His job title is a million different things depending on which company he works in.

We trawled through all the relevant info we could find and Graphic Designer is bang on (SOL - 50 points). We were told by one of the really helpful people at GoMatilda that the problem with a lot of the job descriptions is that they are up to 10 years old and havent been updated to specify "new fields".

Additionally, I found a few posts where PiO members in computer/IT industry have been recommended to have a look at Ptlabs - so oh is looking at them today.

We already have an armslength list of companies in Mel/Syd seeking his skills which we pray is a good thing for us.

L

x

[fossda]

Hi there

 

Just catching up on all the action. for us I feel disappointed at the moment as I've just gone through the stress of passing the IELTS to have nursing skills recognition and now when I check my points without the MODL I only have 115. So if it stays like that perhaps we won't be able to go down the totally independent route, I just thought considering good job / experience. not that old !! and IELTS we would be ok for 175 - maybe not. Will have to wait and see.

 

Good Luck to all new visa people and hope some of the other posters on here get the news they want

Rachel

 

ps munchkinpie we are also essex peeps

[Guest mikewheble]

"I read somewhere on one of the Australian government websites that it's possible to effectively buy your way into WA with A$400k, which is another option... although I didn't really see WA as *the* place I'd end up settling"

 

Hi Stevebel

I have never found anything about buying your way into WA? I'm on a 475 and will be taking just over $1m and believe me, it is that easy to buy your way in...unless I have missed something?

 

Regards

Mike

[Guest Mackem]

I have no idea how it will effect me!

Gill answer my PM please

[Guest jjswon]

Just wondered if any of those who were just about to take the first steps in their Visa Application are having a change of heart in respect of when to submit etc?

 

We have yet to submit our visa application and are now going to concentrate the next 6 months with oh seeking employment with a hope for sponsorship (ENS121)

 

We have decided to ride out the next 6 months with hope and prayer ...and big toes crossed :wacko: ...... that by mid 2010 oh occupation is still on whichever new lists the powers that be throw at us!

 

What are other "newbies" thinking? Anyone think we are shooting ourselfs in the foot by hanging off?

All constructive comments appreciated.

 

xxx

 

 

We are not sure what to do. We met with a migration agent yesterday who said we could apply for the 176 visa once husband has completed the AQF 111 in Telecommunications and gone through TRA. If his occupation is taken off the new skills list in April will we still be eligible? I have an aunt in Brisbane who will sponsor us, and we would like to go to Brisbane but will start off anywhere! I'm a bit confused with these changes, who they will affect and how! Another question I have is what do people think of using an agent and any recommendations?:err:

[Guest Gollywobbler]

I have no idea how it will effect me!

Gill answer my PM please

 

 

Hi Steve

 

I've just looked through some of your earlier posts and threads.

 

I gather that you are a Welder or something very similar. Please see my reply to you at the end of April 2009, on this thread:

 

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54721&page=2

 

Two questions, please:

 

1. Have you completed your TRA assessment or not? If you have completed it, please confirm your exact nominated occupation.

 

2. I told you several months ago to consider the State Lists as they were at the time. If you went ahead and obtained your TRA assessment, did you also apply for a GSM visa (ie subclasses 175 or 176?) If yes, which visa have you applied for?

 

Much more recently you started a new thread saying that you have been offered an RSMS visa instead. Do you intend to accept the offer and obtain an RSMS visa instead?

 

Finally, what is your current age, please? In addition, do you have any dependent children? If yes, how old are the children at the moment? Their ages might have a bearing on what you decide to do, depending on their current ages.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

[Guest Mackem]

Hi Steve

 

I've just looked through some of your earlier posts and threads.

 

I gather that you are a Welder or something very similar. Please see my reply to you at the end of April 2009, on this thread:

 

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54721&page=2

 

Two questions, please:

 

1. Have you completed your TRA assessment or not? If you have completed it, please confirm your exact nominated occupation.

 

2. I told you several months ago to consider the State Lists as they were at the time. If you went ahead and obtained your TRA assessment, did you also apply for a GSM visa (ie subclasses 175 or 176?) If yes, which visa have you applied for?

 

Much more recently you started a new thread saying that you have been offered an RSMS visa instead. Do you intend to accept the offer and obtain an RSMS visa instead?

 

Finally, what is your current age, please? In addition, do you have any dependent children? If yes, how old are the children at the moment? Their ages might have a bearing on what you decide to do, depending on their current ages.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

 

 

I am indeed a welder and since those posts last year I have done nothing, combination of Laziness and a new baby arriving put pay to that.

I am 33 wife is 35 kids are 11,8,and 5 months.

Last week I started to look into it again and was offered a RSMS, albeit in a place I wouldnt have considered usually.

The plan was to take up this offer and for the family to follow at a later date.

The employer has started the process so they say but still I am a bit confused as to what I need to do at my end.

 

Many thanks for the help,

Steve.

[Welshtone]

We are not sure what to do. We met with a migration agent yesterday who said we could apply for the 176 visa once husband has completed the AQF 111 in Telecommunications and gone through TRA. If his occupation is taken off the new skills list in April will we still be eligible? I have an aunt in Brisbane who will sponsor us, and we would like to go to Brisbane but will start off anywhere! I'm a bit confused with these changes, who they will affect and how! Another question I have is what do people think of using an agent and any recommendations?:err:

 

Hi JJ

 

If your occupation gets taken off SOL in April, it should only affect applications lodged 01 July or later. So you have time to do the AQF Cert III, and then apply to TRA with evidence of at least 4 years relevant trade experience - assuming you meet recent work experience requirements also. I would be biased on the question of an agent but where there are deadlines and the frequency of changes recently, you should seriously consider engaging one.

 

Regards

 

 

Tony Coates

[Guest Gollywobbler]

I am indeed a welder and since those posts last year I have done nothing, combination of Laziness and a new baby arriving put pay to that.

I am 33 wife is 35 kids are 11,8,and 5 months.

Last week I started to look into it again and was offered a RSMS, albeit in a place I wouldnt have considered usually.

The plan was to take up this offer and for the family to follow at a later date.

The employer has started the process so they say but still I am a bit confused as to what I need to do at my end.

 

Many thanks for the help,

Steve.

 

Hi Steve

 

Thanks for your prompt reply.

 

Right - you are easily young enough, and so are your children, so neither your age or theirs is relevant to anything. Which is one load of potential problems out of the way!

 

The employer has started the process so they say but still I am a bit confused as to what I need to do at my end.

 

I don't know the detailed nuts & bolts of applying for an RSMS visa. I'm not a migration agent and I have never worked as one, so I've never seen an RSMS application "close up", as it were.

 

Have you tried reading the stuff on the DIAC website in detail? If not, it is below:

 

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled-workers/rsms/

 

http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/booklets/books5.htm

 

Cheers

 

Gill

[Guest snowy10]

In answer to the original post, yes I am re-considering going to Oz!!!

 

I have served in the RAF for 23 years and handed in my notice in order to emigrate to Oz. Being 39 and an aircraft technician I had 120 points and was on the critical skills list. My skills assessment is lodged with the TRA and should come back in 4 weeks time, at which point I was goimg to apply for a 175 visa.

 

Now I will need to take the IELTS test and pass at level 6 or 7 AND get state sponsership!!!!

I have no idea how long this process takes as up until this point it did not effect me. Come December I will be 40 and lose another 5 points which means I will then need the IELTS at level 7.

 

With the cuts that are likely to the Armed Forces I doubt if they would let me remove my notice as they are looking to thin out by around 20% if the rumours are true, so either a 176 visa for me or look for a job outside of the RAF fairly quickly!!

 

Looks like it's a few cans of Stella tonight and research the 176 visa!!!!!

 

Good luck to all those people who have had the rug well and truly pulled out, including those who may well have their applications scrapped after waiting so long.

[Guest Mackem]

Hi Steve

 

Thanks for your prompt reply.

 

Right - you are easily young enough, and so are your children, so neither your age or theirs is relevant to anything. Which is one load of potential problems out of the way!

 

 

I don't know the detailed nuts & bolts of applying for an RSMS visa. I'm not a migration agent and I have never worked as one, so I've never seen an RSMS application "close up", as it were.

 

Have you tried reading the stuff on the DIAC website in detail? If not, it is below:

 

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled-workers/rsms/

 

http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/booklets/books5.htm

 

Cheers

 

Gill

 

Many thanks for the links I will have a read up.

I assumed you were a Agent sorry!

I have been in touch with Alan from Go matilda and he has passed me onto one of his peers.

With all the new stuff happening today I am guessing they are mad busy and not had a chance to call me.

Hopefully they will and I can get this up and running asap.

I have a feeling its going to get harder and harder to get a Visa in the near future so this time I must act fast.

Best regards,

Steve.

[Welshtone]

In answer to the original post, yes I am re-considering going to Oz!!!

 

I have served in the RAF for 23 years and handed in my notice in order to emigrate to Oz. Being 39 and an aircraft technician I had 120 points and was on the critical skills list. My skills assessment is lodged with the TRA and should come back in 4 weeks time, at which point I was goimg to apply for a 175 visa.

 

Now I will need to take the IELTS test and pass at level 6 or 7 AND get state sponsership!!!!

I have no idea how long this process takes as up until this point it did not effect me. Come December I will be 40 and lose another 5 points which means I will then need the IELTS at level 7.

 

With the cuts that are likely to the Armed Forces I doubt if they would let me remove my notice as they are looking to thin out by around 20% if the rumours are true, so either a 176 visa for me or look for a job outside of the RAF fairly quickly!!

 

Looks like it's a few cans of Stella tonight and research the 176 visa!!!!!

 

Good luck to all those people who have had the rug well and truly pulled out, including those who may well have their applications scrapped after waiting so long.

 

Hi Snowy

 

Just the State Sponsorship should do it - you get 15 points for English for holding a British passport. You can apply earlier for the 175 visa safely enough if you score 100 points or more, and the State Sponsorship can come in later - obviously you are then reliant on getting that State sposnorship for success.

 

Regards

 

 

Tony Coates

[Guest jlr248]

Its a difficult call - but how can you NOT follow your dream. If you don't try you'll never know.... good luck!

[Guest Stevebel]

Hi Gill,

 

Thanks for your reply. I'll work through the points test again this evening, but I'm positive that without the points from the MODL I'm some way adrift of even a pool mark.

 

My age (42) works against me here. Obviously I'm still 25 so far as my mind is concerned, but the birth certificate suggests otherwise. *sigh*.

 

In terms of the SOL, I can satisfy the requirements of several of the Computing Professionals categories (2231-) but was focussing on 2231-79 for C/C++ as it was on the CSL when I first started looking at this seriously.

 

Mike, the $400k "buy yourself in" is something rattling around the back of my mind, and I really only threw it out there to see if anybody could provide more substance. A quick Google gives me a few hits related to business visas, but nothing I'd want to pin my hopes on right away.

 

Cheers,

Steve.

[Welshtone]

Hi Steve

 

If you get a MODL Specialist classification from the ACS, you would then need to apply for State Sponsorship - this brings the passmark down to 90 (as you get 10 points for State Sponsorship). So I would be getting onto this straight away as the ACS assessment takes around 3 months just to process.

 

Regards

 

 

Tony Coates

[munchkinpie]

Its a difficult call - but how can you NOT follow your dream. If you don't try you'll never know.... good luck!

 

Think this sums it up really ....

 

..... by hook or by crook ill get to Australia sometime somehow! :yes:

[Graemsay]

Steve, Victoria SS requires the ACS assessment is completed before they issue sponsorship, but it's possible to begin the process in parallel with that. (That's what I did.) C / C++ is on the list, under ASCO code 2231-79.

 

NSW is funny. They do have C++ on the list, but it's for ASCO code 2231-15, which isn't on the CSL.

 

I'd be inclined to go with Victoria, as NSW's nominated occupation isn't on the CSL. It might even prove a faster way of getting to Sydney if that's your destination. (Depends on Category 5 processing times.)

[Carlos fandango]

Everytime I read of any new changes by the Australian Government my stomach just twists and tightens up....... I'm 43, a carpenter, passed vetassess Aug 09, applied WA SS Sept 09 (so still waiting). Haven't applied for any visa yet, obviously waiting to get my SS and then apply for A 176 state sponsored.

Gollywobbler ....dont suppose you got a crystal ball and tell me if I'm gonna be safe and that the ozzie Government will want W.A. to have all the chippies they can lay their hands on ??????.

ALSO.......Would I be best, given I get a positive result from WA SS, to apply for my visa then...(Probably mid to end of March given present timelines)..............or should I wait until the changes end of April.

My minds just spinning at the moment......:chatterbox:

 

PLEASE HELP !!!!!!!

 

Carlos

[Guest Gollywobbler]

Hi Tony

 

Several other agents - Alan Collett and George Lombard in particular - are both saying that they do NOT think that new applicants should spend any money at all on any part of the visa process at the present time.

 

The risks with forging ahead at the moment are:

 

1. We do not know what the new SOL will say and how many points it will award for a particular occupation. We don't even know for sure whether "Communications Linesperson" will be on the new SOL, let alone how many points the new SOL would award for it.

 

2. There are strong rumours that the new State Migration Plans will work so as to award extra SOL points to a particular occupation in that particular State if, say, "Communication Linesperson" is in the SMP for WA but it is not in the SMP for QLD.

 

However nobody knows whether or not this is simply a rumour. Even the States don't know whether it is only a rumour because they all say that the details of the new SMPs have not even been considered by anybody as yet - by themselves or by the Minister. Nobody knows how the new SMPs are supposed to work but what is certain is that they can't even be produced until the new SOL has been thrashed out and the new Points awards made.

 

3. The Minister is also talkiing about raising the bar for offshore GSM visas via the Points Test. According to the newsflashes I've been receiving today, the Minister could do this one of two ways: either he could say, "The pass-mark for a sc 176 visa will be 120" - that notion would tie in with his idea that he actually only wants visa applicants who are currently aged under 30.

 

Alternatively he might create a competitive pass-mark via the Points. If so then he might say that the pecking order for each Communication Linesperson will depend on the number of Points that each of them has. If he takes this line then it will certainly favour the younger applicant. It might also favour an applicant with more experience than the next man of the same age. Nobody knows whether the State Migration Plans will be linked to the Points in some way, either.

 

4, Plus the Minister is talking about amending the Migration Act so that he can say that Australia willl only accept [say] 100 Communications Linespeople a year. Nobody knows whether he is planniing to tell jjswon how many applications he is holding for this particular application - and how strong the other applications look against the quota of 100 Communications Linepersons a year. This is another bit that the Minister has failed to think out properly. Since he admits that he will have to go to Parliament to get the Migration Act changed, if Parliament has any decency the other MPs will INSIST that jjswon must be given the whole, unvarnished picture from the very outset. However during a General Election year they could simply rubber-stamp whatever the Minister wants instead.

 

Jjswon tells us, on this thread, that her Hubby will need to pass the AQF III as a Communications Linesperson before he can proceed with any of the rest of the process anyway. So - how much would getting the AQF III cost him? I don't know whether it is now possible to get an AQF IIII for a Communications Linesperson in the UK. If it is now possible to do it in the UK, the cost of the AQF IIII alone is likely to be at least £2,000 GBP.

 

If more than one provider now offers the AQF III in the UK, jjswon would be told to choose the provider who can get the qualification for him the fastest, not the one who might be quite a bit cheaper but might take considerably longer.

 

A year or two back, RMAs didn't want to know about Communications Linespeople because very few of them had/have any formal British qualifications. The RMAs couldn't see a way forward for them once Pathway D was closed in September 2009.

 

Flixy proved the RMAs wrong. She did a vast amount of hard graft and discovered that her OH could get the AQF III if he did some distance learning in the UK (which involved paying the Aussie provider for the distance learning course) and then OH went to Sydney in person in order to do the AQF III. The trip to Sydney was anything but cheap - is cost considerably more than £2,000 GBP because of the costs of air-travel, accommodation in Sydney, food in Sydney, over-the-ground travel in Sydney as well as paying the AQF III people in Sydney. At the time, the exchange rate made Sterling much stronger than it is now, as well.

 

The RMA has told jjswon blithely that they should pay all these costs - regardless of how much they might come to or how long it is all likely to take - plus of course jjswon should pay the RMAs fees as well.

 

Assuming that jjswon pays all the costs and gets the AQF III, nobody knows how long it will take for the RMA and jjswon to get the TRA application together. We are already into February now. TRA now take a mimunim of 30 working days from the date when they receive the candidate's application.

 

However assuming that both of these limbs are completed prior to 1st July 2010, we

still don't know how any of my numbered points above will actually work and we don't know how long the process is likely to take, either.

 

The RMAs Code of Conduct requires - requires, it does not just suggest - that the RMA should be able to give hhswon the entire story before the RMA takes a single penny from jjswon for the RMA's fees.

 

Therefore is the RMA going to share the financial risks with jjswon? Such as the idea that the RMA will work completely for free until such time as ALL of the RMA's blithe plans have worked out to hhswon's advantage and a viable visa appllication is actuallly made?

 

I very much doubt it, Tony! I think that any RMA who accepts a single penny from a new applicant when everything is so uncertain is playing with absolute fire in the eyes of the OMARA - which is now run by two senior DIAC Officers, remember.

 

DIAC are not suggesting that any applicant should act preciipately at this stage. They would be much happier if NO applicant does a single thing that the applicant might end up regretting financially until the whole situation becomes very much clearer than it is today. It would suit DIAC if no further GSM applications are made between now and 30th June 2011. It would help them to reduce their backlog and it would keep all new applicants safe from any harm.

 

The Australian Government are the ONLY crowd I've ever met whose attitude is, "Australia will still be here tomorrow, next year and in a decade's time. We'd love ou to come and visit our country - the more you do that the better as far as we are concerned. However if you don't want to live here and you don't even want to visit the place, that is fine too. We accept that Australia is not for everyone."

 

So DIAC are never going to tell an RMA, "Oh yes, you did the right thing by encouraging jjswon to act in haste so that YOU could get some fees for yourself out of this haste, RMA."

 

If I were an RMA, I'd follow George and Alan myself. LOADS of RMAs do not have either the new clients or the capital to weather the storm up ahead. Many of them will simply be grateful to offload their existing clients on to somebody else so that the first RMA can walk away from the whole thing.

 

From an RMA's point of vuew, there is no point in protecting the RMA's cash-flow today if the eventual result is that his/her registration as an RMA will be cancelled.

 

My personal view - since I'm not looking for an Aussie visa and I'm not a migration agent either - is that both sides need to slow down. The announcement was only made yesterday. There are LOADS of legal and practical problems with the announcements that have been made so far, as well.

 

Once this Minister realises that DIAC have only seen the issues from his own, narrow point of view and that outsiders can see a huge raft of problems heading the Minister's way, this particular Minister has shown in the past that he's just as likely to announce a Whole New Plan at Easter as he is to try to press on with his present, garbled ideas.

Senator Chris Evans has proven - and this is the fourth time he has proven it - that Unpredictable would be a better middle name for him than Vaughan, frankly!

 

Cheers

 

Gill

[Welshtone]

Hi Gill

 

1 - although ambiguous in some of today's releases, it is quite clear from the FAQ "Changes to the current SOL" that changes to the SOL will only affect applications lodged on or after 01 July 2010. This will take some transitional provisions with the Instrument when the new SOL comes in.

 

2 - If you are a chance for current state sponsorship, assuming the States don't close this off while they formulate their SMP, then go for it. The only thing you can lose by going ahead are application fees. If you don't go ahead now, you run the risk of losing eligibility.

 

3 - as per 2, applying before 01 July 2010 means you may avoid any adverse increases in points test, SOL.

 

4 - Linesperson AQF Cert III workplace assessment costs A$2,995 in UK - about £1,700. No guarantee that if jjswon pays for workplace assessment and gets through TRA but my advice would be to steam ahead with that for now so at least they will be in a position to apply prior to 01 July as things will become clearer as 01 July approaches.

 

As long as the risks are put to the client, then the client has to take full responsibility for those risks. It is up to each individual agent as to how they structure any fee schedule. The risks of not applying should also be put to the client so the client makes an informed decision. I agree that things should not be rushed into as it is only the day of the announcement, but I would prefer to be ready to apply prior to 01 July if possible as it may become patently obvious in the last week of June that jjswon should 100% put an application in prior to 01 July 2010 - too late at that stage to arrange Workplace assessment plus TRA processing. Of course the risks of not applying and applying have financial implications on each prospective applicant and that is a matter for them - I can only advise on the pros and cons as I see it, I don't take a persons financial situation into it, except in relation to State Sponsorship requirements.

 

Anyway, things will get more clear with time.

 

Regards

 

 

Tony Coates