Guest proud2beaussie Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Interesting that some Australian organisations are still out there almost "touting" for applicants. Reading the Times Online (Which BTW is the best online newspaper in the world) I came across this headline- Australia: sun, sea, barbies and, best of all, jobs Reading on the Australia Association of Graduate Employers says that the number of graduate vacancies in Australia has grown by between 9 and 16 per cent annually since 2002 and in many sectors recruitment has more than doubled over this period. Further on the article says that Australia's Department of Immigration and Citizenship publishes an annual list of “occupations in demand”, which currently includes accountants, architects, engineers, IT specialists, dentists, opticians, anaesthetists, psychiatrists, quantity surveyors, pharmacists, chefs, bakers, carpenters, locksmiths, plumbers, welders and tree surgeons .Of course no mention that many of these have been taken off the list. If this is the sort of information being printed in UK media I can't blame people for getting upset when they arrive here and find there is no job for them. Full text at: Australia: sun, sea, barbies and, best of all, jobs - Times Online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnett Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I don't blame people for being upset either. We often hear in the news that gymnasiums which have gone bust and into receivership, were still signing up members and taking hundreds of dollars from unsuspecting people, right up until the moment the receivers put locks on the doors and tossed the proprietors out onto the street. And in those instances, the media goes to town with self-righteous condemnation. But when a government does the equivalent ... where's the media condemnation ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ABCDiamond Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Of course no mention that many of these have been taken off the list. Looking at: Is your occupation in demand? - Workers - Visas & Immigration Those occupations are still on the list... It is the Critical skills list that appears to have been changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest proud2beaussie Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I'm probably going to make myself very unpopular by saying this but I think the decisions taken on Monday should have been taken in the middle of last year when the recession was starting to bite overseas. Then maybe we wouldn't have tradespeople who arrived in Australia full of hope and optimism only to find that things were deteriorating and it was going to be hard to find a job,these people who are actually needed in Australia (or will be at some time) are now leaving with a bitter taste in their mouth and probably won't come back,which is a shame for Australia and a shame for them because although Australia is not everyones cup of tea it has a lot to offer people who have good skills . I know the cuts will hurt some people and thats a shame,but sometimes you need to be cruel to be kind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnett Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Nigelinoz --- I don't think stating the obvious will make you unpopular. It's the Oz government and hangers-on who are and will be, unpopular. But this situation is nothing new. It's only new to this generation. Australia's full of old timers who fell for the same thing, decades ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest proud2beaussie Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Looking at: Is your occupation in demand? - Workers - Visas & ImmigrationThose occupations are still on the list... It is the Critical skills list that appears to have been changed. My point is that the article as a whole paints Australia as some sort of paradise,look at the headline-Australia: sun, sea, barbies and, best of all, jobs. Sure when you read the detail it mentions that sections of the economy are slowing down but I really think it is unwise to be promoting this sort of thing when the reality is that immigration has been cut and the recession is hurting many industries. Yes there are jobs in Australia for people with good skills in industries where there is a shortage,but as a whole I believe there should be no promotion about Australian migration until the current backlog of applications is decided. It's only fair,if you advertise peaches for $1.00 a kilo then you should have them to sell or you shouldn't advertise them-it's the same with visas-in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ABCDiamond Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 But when a government does the equivalent ... where's the media condemnation ? How can the media condemn it ? Skilled migration is still going to be higher than it was last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ABCDiamond Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I'm probably going to make myself very unpopular by saying this but I think the decisions taken on Monday should have been taken in the middle of last year when the recession was starting to bite overseas. Actually the problem is not in leaving it late to revise the number downwards, it was in increasing the number so high in the first place. The total skilled and family migration numbers in 2006/2007 were 148,200 In 2007/2008 they increased to 158,630 In 2008/2009 they proposed an increase (of 20%) to 190,300 for the year, but this has now been trimmed by 18,500 They should have only increased by a reasonable figure in the first place. 2008/2009 is still an 8.3% increase over last year. That compares to only a 7% increase the previous year. When you realise that Australia will still be taking in more migrants than last year, then it isn't quite as bad as it has been made to appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ABCDiamond Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I can't help wondering about headlines... AUSTRALIA'S intake of skilled migrants will be slashed by 18,500 or AUSTRALIA'S intake of migrants will be increased by 8.3% compared to last years increase of only 7% Which headline sounds better, and may get the media more viewers ? And for the Times to fall into the same headline trap... well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eurosyl Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I can't help wondering about headlines... AUSTRALIA'S intake of skilled migrants will be slashed by 18,500 or AUSTRALIA'S intake of migrants will be increased by 8.3% compared to last years increase of only 7% Which headline sounds better, and may get the media more viewers ? And for the Times to fall into the same headline trap... well... Things are quite simple: - Australia's population needs to grow to sustain the economy in the long run - Current crisis causes public out-cry to save jobs for locals - Government reacts to out-cry by reducing the program, tho in effect still more migrants will be granted a visa than the year before. This sooths the masses and hurts us applicants less than it could have been. Long term goals: growth of population is still maintaned. - Things look politically better the way it is brought to the public now. ... oh.. and the current backlog in the skills program is larger than the number of visa's they will grant in a year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracyb37 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I agree Nigel. We have been here for over two months and Geoff had only just got a job this week. We have been living off our savings so they have dwindled significantly more than we had anticipated. The amount of jobs on offer are fewer than a year ago and so that means there is more competition for the jobs that are available. If I was in the process of emigrating and didn't have much cash behind me, I would certainly think twice as I think times are going to get even harder. I know that Geoff was getting peeved at not getting a job and I could see us having to go back to the UK. Although the job he has isn't ideal as there is a far whack of travelling every day, we are grateful that he does have a job and we can stay here for the forseeable. After that who knows?? I think there will be a lot of disappointed people arriving so please do think carefully and weigh up all the pros and cons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest proud2beaussie Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Australia's population needs to grow to sustain the economy in the long run- Current crisis causes public out-cry to save jobs for locals - Government reacts to out-cry by reducing the program, tho in effect still more migrants will be granted a visa than the year before. This sooths the masses and hurts us applicants less than it could have been. Long term goals: growth of population is still maintaned. - Things look politically better the way it is brought to the public now. Very good points,and I believe that Australia needs a sensible,balanced migration strategy that delivers the skills the country needs to take it into the next decade and beyond,but the interests of Australian workers must be protected as well,and therein lies the difficulty for the government. I wouldn't fancy being the immigration minister for a minute at the present time,because he's damned if does and he's damned if he doesn't. Trying to juggle what industry wants with what unions want doesn't sound like fun to me ! But although the cuts made the other day will hurt and inconvenience some people I think that they are probably the only thing the minister could have done in the circumstances,but then what do I know,I'm not a politician or migration expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr luvpants Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I really feel for everyone on here that is going to be affected. Especially the peole that are already over there and expecting to get PR. On a "selfish" note, am I right in saying that as my wife is a nurse and we are going to be sponsored (hopefully) these changes should not affect us? However the visa may take longer to be approved? We have not started the process yet. JOHN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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