Djwbru Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Hi. Patiently awaiting to hear from CO...kinda have been hoping for a direct grant. Having doubts now tho...should I have had my docs certified? They are all colour scanned copies but none have been certified. TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niamhmulk Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 No, your documents don’t need to be certified. Just colour copies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djwbru Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 Omgosh thank you!! I'm sure I had read somewhere that as long as they were colour copies they didn't need to be certified, but have just uploaded my husbands full birth certificate (only had his short one on there) and noticed a little question mark next to each section on the "upload documents" section. Clicking on it it said they had to be certified copies, so panicked! Hadn't noticed that before! The whole thing seems so contradictory at times! We are at 99 days post application today, so really hoping to get a grant soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niamhmulk Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Don’t worry, I got my grant on 108 days and I didn’t certify anything. Give it another week or so and I’m sure you’ll have your grant too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djwbru Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 Hope so. Did you use an agent? The closer it gets to possible contact, the more nervous i become that I've made mistakes!...like the birth certificate! Congratulations by the way! How exciting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niamhmulk Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Nope I did everything myself! Thank you, I had the flights booked the same evening haha. Very excited to finally get things moving! Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djwbru Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 Thanks. Fingers and toes crossed! Wow flights booked already...not wasting any time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djwbru Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 Update...I have received c/o contact today asking for our birth certificates to be certified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleem Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 A little feedback from my MA, when I asked him if it is mandatory to have the docs certified by a Notary Public. There are two views on whether to submit colour scans of the originals or provide certified copies. Some case officers may accept colour scans of the originals and some do not. Some skills assessment authorities (for example, Engineers Australia) ONLY accept colour scans of the originals. Some skills assessment authorities (for example, Australian Computer Society) ONLY accept certified copies. Here is an example: https://www.expatforum.com/expats/australia-expat-forum-expats-living-australia/1023865-urgent-acs-did-not-accept-notray-public-attestation-lahore-pakistan.html Some US presidents (like Trump) ban muslims from certain countries to enter US while other presidents (Like Obama) did not. The question is whether you will get a case officer with the views of Trump or Obama? No one can tell. Your friend might have got a person like Obama. While some case officers may not accept colour scans, no case officers can say that they will not accept certified copies. Hence, submitting certified copies is the safe thing to do. We have submitted certified copies of the documents so far and we have got no issues at any time with any case officers. No investigations, no natural justice letters so far. Some people make fake currencies and fake passports. Hence, creating fake documents is easy. India and Pakistan are high risk countries in terms of bogus documents and misleading information (for Australian immigration). Even registered migration agents from these countries do submit bogus documents: Please see: https://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/punjabi/en/article/2017/01/31/indian-migration-agent-wife-stand-trial-running-fake-marriage-scam Hence, some case officers do not trust Indians or Asians. Getting a certified copy helps the case officer as they can rely on the responsibility of the Notary public, who certified that it is a true photocopy of the original. Hence, the case officer need not worry about the genuineness of the documents. If there is contact information of the notary public (for example, mobile phone number), it gives additional confidence. If they want, they can call the notary public to ask whether he has seen the originals. Two candidates, who submitted the colour scans of originals (they submitted their application on their own) are met with the natural justice letters as the Department started suspecting on their cases. To answer your question, it is not mandatory to get certified copies with the contact details of the notary public. At the same time, it is not mandatory for all the case officers to accept the copies that are not certified and grant you the visa. If the case officer that you get do not trust the documents, they can initiate their investigation, which may lead to a natural justice letter and visa refusal, if they find some inconsistency with your application. Our clients in the last 7.5 years did not get any natural justice letters due to the fact that we submit all documents in correct order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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