Guest chris955 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Archie to be honest I'd quit whilst you are ahead. I've worked in the veterinary field for 20 plus years. Please feel free to advise us what qualifications you have in the companion animal world apart from being a dog walker. It is obvious your post was trying to put the public in a frenzy for your own personal gain. Unfortunately I'm laid in a hospital bed so haven't the time and energy to refute your claims I think you meant quite whilst you are behind I agree though, none of the claims can be backed up with any veterinary evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Pom Queen Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 .The 30 day rule has nothing to do with JUST known diseases, or how much you love your dog. It is not against dogs, but in fact protecting dogs IN THIS COUNTRY. Anyone in here who claims they know all about past and future dog diseases, is clearly delusional I will fight the the safety and rights of dogs already in Australia, which if you are privileged enough to be allowed to bring your dog to Australia, you should see as a positive point, not as a punishment. How can YOU guarantee the safety of all the dogs in Australia can you predict the future of future diseases :laugh: Also can you please tell us why you only care about dogs? What about people, cats, zoo animals, plants etc, you seem to want to keep Australia wrapped in a bubble. To be honest in my opinion I wouldn't use your services as you don't seem (again my opinion) to have any compassion for any dogs who come from outside Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Pom Queen Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I think you meant quite whilst you are behind I agree though, none of the claims can be backed up with any veterinary evidence. I blame the drugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galahad Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 ".....I treat dogs like dogs (discipline, exercise and love), so they are stable and can be controlled in public, so they are social. The kinds of dogs that sleep on beds are often the ones that don't go for daily off lead dog walks, and are often the first ones to attack other dogs, thinking they are protecting their owners......" Mmmmm....don't know where to start with this ! So many assumptions & generalisations ! I'm a lost cause anyway because I can't wait to have my feet pinned under Abby's weight at the bottom of my bed again & to see both my dogs with their feet in the air & Purdy on Abby's head, purring away.... ! Or to take my sociable girls on long (off leash) walks again.... Re. cost/motive.....of transporting pets.....yep, I'm really selfish & want my 'family' with me......& I've transported two ways now....once with quarantine & once (to the UK) without..... I don't think we've done England any harm..... I could have put a deposit on a small house with what I've spent on their international travel..... Would I do it again ? Yes, in a heartbeat. I think people who do it, initially look at the cost & utter an expletive or six & then book their precious cargo in with the shipper they think will offer the very best care....people like Petair.... So - ultimately, even though it comes as a shock - they are happy to pay whatever it costs.... Like another poster - the reduced quarantine would have saved me approximately $2000 - but will come in too late for me & mine..... If & when AQIS considers it safe & appropriate to reduce, they'll do it. If not, they won't. End of. I will welcome the reduction & I'm sure the improved vaccinations & preventions will be taken into consideration - as they are coming the other way. Can't wait to pick up my 'vicious brutes' on the 18th of May..... :yes: My 'Frequent Flyers'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 How can YOU guarantee the safety of all the dogs in Australia can you predict the future of future diseases :laugh:Also can you please tell us why you only care about dogs? What about people, cats, zoo animals, plants etc, you seem to want to keep Australia wrapped in a bubble. To be honest in my opinion I wouldn't use your services as you don't seem (again my opinion) to have any compassion for any dogs who come from outside Australia I dont think id use them either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candygirl Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I have moaned about the cost, I have also moaned about the cost of the visa process and shipping charges. For the same reasons as others, I would prefer the quarantine to be reduced for the sake of my girls and me for that matter. It is a lot of money, but as has been by others to have my beautiful girls with me in Oz is a no brainer for me and my husband. I am sure the authorities in Oz will make the right decision for the animals and Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunset Addict Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 "New Zealand is free from many serious diseases and pests such as rabies, heartworm disease, and many ticks. Biosecurity requirements are in place to manage the risk of introducing unwanted diseases, pests and animals. These requirements (including eligibility, tests and treatments) are listed in the Import Health Standards (IHS) for cats and dogs and the Guidance Document." So I guess the argument would be that pets arriving in NZ have had to have some form of quarantine period, and that because of its proximity to Australia, its clean health etc that they consider NZ to be like an external state to Australia. I dont think the same is considered for Asia which isnt that much further away, but is likely to have a worse health record for pets. "I am quite sure that if the quarantine is reduced to 10 days then it will be done so with much epidemiological consideration from biosecurity specialists" Or alternatively it will be from external pressure from other countries and people such as in this forum complaining about the time. Sometimes I am sure you will appreciate, politics and minority groups can cause change that is not beneficial for a country. I have to also say that I would not want my dog to be in quarantine for long. I dont leave him at kennels either. But something that I read in here regularly is statements like "They all sleep in/on our bed at night, and are very close to us" MOST dog experts agree that letting a dog sleep on your bed is giving up an alpha status or final control you might have on a dog. I treat dogs like dogs (discipline, exercise and love), so they are stable and can be controlled in public, so they are social. The kinds of dogs that sleep on beds are often the ones that don't go for daily off lead dog walks, and are often the first ones to attack other dogs, thinking they are protecting their owners. The 30 day rule has nothing to do with JUST known diseases, or how much you love your dog. It is not against dogs, but in fact protecting dogs IN THIS COUNTRY. Anyone in here who claims they know all about past and future dog diseases, is clearly delusional I will fight the the safety and rights of dogs already in Australia, which if you are privileged enough to be allowed to bring your dog to Australia, you should see as a positive point, not as a punishment. Very aggressively argued, but their is No NEED to criticize others forum members who are also just stating their OPINION your statements are also just OPINION. If the law changes thankfully you will not be able to do anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 "New Zealand is free from many serious diseases and pests such as rabies, heartworm disease, and many ticks. Biosecurity requirements are in place to manage the risk of introducing unwanted diseases, pests and animals. These requirements (including eligibility, tests and treatments) are listed in the Import Health Standards (IHS) for cats and dogs and the Guidance Document." So I guess the argument would be that pets arriving in NZ have had to have some form of quarantine period, and that because of its proximity to Australia, its clean health etc that they consider NZ to be like an external state to Australia. I dont think the same is considered for Asia which isnt that much further away, but is likely to have a worse health record for pets. "I am quite sure that if the quarantine is reduced to 10 days then it will be done so with much epidemiological consideration from biosecurity specialists" Or alternatively it will be from external pressure from other countries and people such as in this forum complaining about the time. Sometimes I am sure you will appreciate, politics and minority groups can cause change that is not beneficial for a country. I have to also say that I would not want my dog to be in quarantine for long. I dont leave him at kennels either. But something that I read in here regularly is statements like "They all sleep in/on our bed at night, and are very close to us" MOST dog experts agree that letting a dog sleep on your bed is giving up an alpha status or final control you might have on a dog. I treat dogs like dogs (discipline, exercise and love), so they are stable and can be controlled in public, so they are social. The kinds of dogs that sleep on beds are often the ones that don't go for daily off lead dog walks, and are often the first ones to attack other dogs, thinking they are protecting their owners. The 30 day rule has nothing to do with JUST known diseases, or how much you love your dog. It is not against dogs, but in fact protecting dogs IN THIS COUNTRY. Anyone in here who claims they know all about past and future dog diseases, is clearly delusional I will fight the the safety and rights of dogs already in Australia, which if you are privileged enough to be allowed to bring your dog to Australia, you should see as a positive point, not as a punishment. "Experts" who tell people that letting a dog sleep on their bed is giving up their "alpha" status need to take their heads out of their backsides! The " pack leader" mentality is such a load of absolute garbage yet it seems some otherwise fairly intelligent people fall for it. My dog sleeps on my bed. He also walks off the lead for at least an hour a day and spends most of this time socialising extremely well with other dogs. He's never been in a dog fight or shown the slightest bit of aggression. He is extremely obedient to my commands and we regularly compete very successfully in agility. When we walk to our local park - wait for it - I actually let him walk IN FRONT of me!! When we return- surprise surprise - he is usually behind me. This isn't because he's a dominant "alpha" dog on the way to the park and submissive on the way home. It's because he likes being in the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brisbanebound1 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 hi all, i am in need to relocate to australia and am very worried about placing my dogs in cargo. can anyone tell me their experiences? i will move back from america and the flight is quite long. i fear for their safety as well as their safely in quarantine as they have never been away from my side and are 10 years of age. additionally, does anyone have any new information on whether or not the quarantine time will be cut down? i know many countries have done so in the past year. t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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