newtothis Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Hi Apologies as this is my first post. My partner is a chef, qualified NVQ level 2 july 2011 through an apprenticeship and worked as a chef since 2009. We have always planned to emigrate but know he needs four years and ideally wanted his level 3 NVQ, however, out of the blue he has been offered the role of Sous Chef with sponsorship. The company have forwarded the certificates to their lawyers and havent mentioned TRA assessment. What we need to know is - does he need an assessment or can they issue the visa without it? Does the fact that he is being offered sponsorship impact on the decision to grant the visa? Any advice hugely appreciated thanks Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 If he is being sponsored then he is getting an employer sponsored visa so not sure what you mean about this impacting the decision to grant the visa ... other than an employer sposnored visa without an employer sponsor would surely be declined.. :confused: It is not that common for skills assessment to be requested for a 457 visa, you can but wait and see if that is the case for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lebourvellec Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Welcome to PIO Some trade occupations dorequire skills assessment for 457, but if you have certificates it may not be required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newtothis Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 heres what the TRA say...am I right in reading that the UK doesnt have to have TRA assessments on a 457 visa?? [h=1]457 Skills Assessment Program[/h] The 457 Skills Assessment Program is an assessment pathway for applicants applying for a Temporary Work (Skilled) visa (subclass 457), who: work in a nominated occupation and hold a passport from a nominated country; and are required by the Department of Immigration and Citizenship (DIAC) to have a skills assessment for temporary migration. The 457 Skills Assessment Program is also available, on an opt-in basis, to overseas trained tradespeople from nominated countries who are seeking a skills assessment to access occupational licensing in plumbing and electrical occupations. 457 skills assessments determine if applicants have the skills and experience necessary to work in Australia at the trade level for their occupation so they can contribute immediately to the Australian workforce. [h=2]Applicants required to have a skills assessment for temporary migration[/h]Applicants required by the Department of Immigration and Cistizenship (DIAC) to have a skills assessment for temporary migration, are required to hold a passport from a nominated country and work in a nominated occupation. [h=3]Nominated countries[/h]Nominated countries, for those required by DIAC to have a skills assessment for temporary migration, are: Brazil, China (including Hong Kong and Macau), Fiji, India, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, South Africa, Thailand, Vietnam, Zimbabwe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvice Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 HiApologies as this is my first post. My partner is a chef, qualified NVQ level 2 july 2011 through an apprenticeship and worked as a chef since 2009. We have always planned to emigrate but know he needs four years and ideally wanted his level 3 NVQ, however, out of the blue he has been offered the role of Sous Chef with sponsorship. The company have forwarded the certificates to their lawyers and havent mentioned TRA assessment. What we need to know is - does he need an assessment or can they issue the visa without it? Does the fact that he is being offered sponsorship impact on the decision to grant the visa? Any advice hugely appreciated thanks Ali 457 is a work visa. Work visa not necessary to go for TRA assessment. However, your partner occupation have to match with his qualification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newtothis Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 thanks for the replies, just wondering if anyone else can help please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Foulkes Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 thanks for the replies, just wondering if anyone else can help please? I'm in the same boat as you but i have not got sponsorship yet! I've been talking to visa bureau and this is what they said on the 457 visa [TABLE=class: ecxMsoNormalTable] [TR] [TD]APPLICANT REQUIREMENTS [/TD] [TD=width: 496, bgcolor: #DBE5F1]Occupation To apply, you must nominate a position on the relevant occupation list - http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/_pdf/sol-schedule1-2.pdf. No skills assessment is required for passport holders of most countries including the UK, Ireland, the USA, New Zealand and Canada. To determine if a skills assessment is required please check - http://www.innovation.gov.au/Skills/SkillsAssessment/TradesRecognitionAustralia/457SkillsAssessmentProgram/Pages/default.aspx [TABLE=class: ecxMsoNormalTable] [TR] [TD]Please note: If licensing or registration is required to perform the role in Australia, then you must be eligible to obtain that license or registration which often can include holding certain qualifications. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Age There is no age limit for applicants Language The applicant must hold Vocational English. For passport holders of the UK, Ireland, USA, NZ and Canada this is met if your first language was English; for everyone else 5.0 in each section of IELTS. [TABLE=class: ecxMsoNormalTable] [TR] [TD]Please note: DIAC may ask that an IELTS test be sat if licensing or registration in your occupation demands that you have a higher level of English proficiency. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=width: 121]EMPLOYER REQUIREMENTS [/TD] [TD=width: 496, bgcolor: #DBE5F1] There are fairly stringent requirements for the sponsoring employer, with them first needing to apply to DIAC to become an approved business sponsor. There are requirements for the salary that can be offered by the employer as it is required to be at or above the market rate. In addition to being at the market rate there is an additional requirement that the salary be above $51,400. If the employee ceases employment with the sponsoring employer, they are required to obtain another sponsoring employer within 28 days, apply for another type of visa, or they will required to leave the country. [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=width: 121]PROCESSING TIMES [/TD] [TD=width: 496, bgcolor: #DBE5F1]Current processing times for the Temporary Business (Long Stay), subclass 457 can be found athttp://www.immi.gov.au/about/charters/client-services-charter/visas/3.0.htm. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Hope this is helpful for you and any tips on finding a sponsor would be grateful thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newtothis Posted January 14, 2013 Author Share Posted January 14, 2013 I'm in the same boat as you but i have not got sponsorship yet! I've been talking to visa bureau and this is what they said on the 457 visa [TABLE=class: ecxMsoNormalTable] [TR] [TD]APPLICANT REQUIREMENTS[/TD] [TD]Occupation To apply, you must nominate a position on the relevant occupation list - http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/_pdf/sol-schedule1-2.pdf. No skills assessment is required for passport holders of most countries including the UK, Ireland, the USA, New Zealand and Canada. To determine if a skills assessment is required please check - http://www.innovation.gov.au/Skills/SkillsAssessment/TradesRecognitionAustralia/457SkillsAssessmentProgram/Pages/default.aspx [TABLE=class: ecxMsoNormalTable] [TR] [TD]Please note: If licensing or registration is required to perform the role in Australia, then you must be eligible to obtain that license or registration which often can include holding certain qualifications.[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Age There is no age limit for applicants Language The applicant must hold Vocational English. For passport holders of the UK, Ireland, USA, NZ and Canada this is met if your first language was English; for everyone else 5.0 in each section of IELTS. [TABLE=class: ecxMsoNormalTable] [TR] [TD]Please note: DIAC may ask that an IELTS test be sat if licensing or registration in your occupation demands that you have a higher level of English proficiency.[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]EMPLOYER REQUIREMENTS[/TD] [TD=width: 496, bgcolor: #DBE5F1]There are fairly stringent requirements for the sponsoring employer, with them first needing to apply to DIAC to become an approved business sponsor. There are requirements for the salary that can be offered by the employer as it is required to be at or above the market rate. In addition to being at the market rate there is an additional requirement that the salary be above $51,400. If the employee ceases employment with the sponsoring employer, they are required to obtain another sponsoring employer within 28 days, apply for another type of visa, or they will required to leave the country. [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=width: 121]PROCESSING TIMES[/TD] [TD=width: 496, bgcolor: #DBE5F1]Current processing times for the Temporary Business (Long Stay), subclass 457 can be found athttp://www.immi.gov.au/about/charters/client-services-charter/visas/3.0.htm.[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Hope this is helpful for you and any tips on finding a sponsor would be grateful thanks thanks for the reply, were quite confident the employer can sponsor on this visa, they have done previously and no TRA is needed being from the UK and the position. We are waiting on the migration lawyer to email...life is firmly on hold. they want us there by the end feb which is just mind boggling....worried it all may somehow fall through so we have everything crossed. Are you a Chef? if so Gumtree.com.au have loads of chef jobs - some that offer sponsorship good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshchef Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 thanks for the reply, were quite confident the employer can sponsor on this visa, they have done previously and no TRA is needed being from the UK and the position. We are waiting on the migration lawyer to email...life is firmly on hold. they want us there by the end feb which is just mind boggling....worried it all may somehow fall through so we have everything crossed.Are you a Chef? if so Gumtree.com.au have loads of chef jobs - some that offer sponsorship good luck Have you had any news of your sponsor yet? Hope all goes well for you, any info would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
family of five Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Just be aware, you may not need the skills assessment now but will if you want to change to PR. Tina http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/migration-issues/175336-unsuccessful-tra-skills-test-chef-2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raul Senise Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Skills assessments are required for 457 Visa applications for some trades for applicants from certain countries. UK Chefs do not require one. Shouldn’t your Lawyer be answering these questions for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newtothis Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 Skills assessments are required for 457 Visa applications for some trades for applicants from certain countries. UK Chefs do not require one. Shouldn’t your Lawyer be answering these questions for you? The lawyers charge quite a lot for their time...just figured it was worth asking on the forum for that reason and also with the time difference it can take a while to get answers via email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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