A question to the helpful MARA agents here or anyone who is knowledgeable.

When using an agent to lodge an EOI and eventually the visa application, as a client, is one able to view what has been submitted right from the EOI? Is this something that agents offer their clients or are meant to offer? How does the client stay on top of their application process - it is their life so a bit invested in the process as you’d imagine.

Thanks

On 21/05/2021 at 07:40, TJC_UK said:

What is SES?

Skilled Employment Statement that you can apply for after obtaining a skills assessment 

https://www.aitsl.edu.au/migrate-to-australia/skilled-employment-statement

11 hours ago, helpplease said:

Hi all,

Not sure if this is the right thread but given the current economic climate, am I able to accept a short term contract (3/6 months) outside a designated postcode area? 

I will still be living in a regional area though. Will this affect my chances of getting PR?

Should I contact immigration first before accepting the offer?

Thanks!

From my understanding, as long as you steer clear of cities, I think you can work in any area classified as a regional area. 

@UdeMStudent, see if this might help. List of 190 occupation invites including points. 

https://www.iscah.com/state-190-invitations-20192020/

@Coshay91, I have a few uni mates who moved to London as teachers through agencies and as @cheese n pickle says, there are a few agencies around in the big cities. Off the top of my head I can think of Anzuk and TES who have ads out often about teaching abroad. There are a couple more but you might need to google. Possibly check on their employment section to see what they offer and ask a few questions to test the waters.

 I would seriously consider what @wrusselland @paulhand have said. Get a migration agent to look at your situation and devise a strategy. With a family you don’t want to go for a temporary dead end visa as @Marisawright says while you might qualify for something better. Best to get it right the first time and save yourself a headache down the line. 

https://migration.qld.gov.au/

10 hours ago, Icey said:

Is it mandatory to have work experience if you want to apply for 491? I tried to find that information but I cannot find anywhere stated you need work experience. As far as I know this is just the case for 190. Or am I wrong? If I am wrong, can you please send me a link where this is mentioned?

I got my NESA accreditation in NSW and I am about to get my QCT in QLD as well. At the moment I am on a student visa with EOI 80 points for just 189. And curious if I am eligible for 491 without work experience.

It is difficult with work experience on a student visa because you are just entitled to work maximum 20 a week but to get work experience accredited you need a minimum of 20 hours.

Are there any other possibilities for me to get PR as a secondary teacher on the long run?

Which state? If QLD, get on to BSMQ site. They have all the information you need for a 491. Onshore you just need to have lived and worked in a regional area for 3 months in a full time capacity. 

May I ask, if you are on a student visa, are you not applying for the Graduate Visa? I don’t know your circumstances but you would qualify for the post study work visa 485 if you studied in Australia. It will give you 2 years full work rights which you can then use to buy you time to get your paperwork in order for a 491. 

If you haven’t yet, I would contact a MARA agent ASAP to help you navigate this so you do not lose the invite unnecessarily. I am not sure about a 190 but I know for the 491 both Queensland (BSMQ) and Tasmania have issued word on the s48 condition. Check with @wrussell @Raul Senise or @paulhand. I am sure there are other migration agents on the forum but these guys are the ones I see provide information often and are quite knowledgeable.

@Mel1995, I am not sure how many ECTs are on this forum. If there’s many, I’d love to know where they’ve been hiding  

To your question, first have you checked if your diploma is ACECQA approved? I am sure there’s a way that’s AITSL can honour an approved one. https://www.acecqa.gov.au/qualifications/nqf-approved

Also, have you looked at AITSL’s ‘Assessment for Migration Applicant Checklist’ and ‘Assessment for Migration Guide to applying for a skills assessment’ downloads? It talks about proof of supervised teaching prac statement from affiliated colleges, schools or training providers not being accepted. Not sure how this affects you with your college amongst other things.

If it were me I’d skip TAFE and go straight for the degree as it’s less paperwork for them to pick at and your chances are better (in my opinion) of getting a positive skills assessment. Personally after researching what it took to get a skills assessment, I chose to redo my qualifications with a 4 year degree as opposed to attempting to get my previous diploma recognised. It turned out much easier for me this way. Not sure if this is helpful but have a dig around their website. 

My apologies if this is not the info you are after. Maybe edit your question to include the subclass you are asking about. I was only giving you the information that I know about. 

Also, even after a state has nominated you, doesn’t your application still end up with Department of Home Affairs? (Correct me if I am wrong on this). State nomination would then still be covered by your general question regarding processing of applications for offshore applicants. I can also see Green above responded in general terms. 

If you had already applied for a visa and are awaiting a response from DHA it’s a different scenario to waiting for an invite. People might have different pointers for you. That said, editing your original question or clarifying it might get you the responses closer to what you are after.

Cheers

Here is news from Queensland as of 25/03/2020. It is a tough time for everyone with so much up in the air.

https://migration.qld.gov.au/

3 hours ago, 31Hillbury said:

We received a 190 for Qld in January. 
just patiently waiting for the grant now! 

Good luck Let us know how it goes

1 hour ago, Areyousure said:

Do you think the number of people applying to Australia would decrease over the next few months? ( recession, job losses, delay in doing exams)

and the possibility of Australia increasing the intake to boost the economy, leading to a decrease in the points required to get an invite?

 

what are your thoughts on this guys?

Oh how we would hope for this. Or at least an intake for those who are onshore, with points in the 80s (maybe?) and who currently have jobs to keep the wheels of the economy moving. Migration will also bring money into their hands as we pay the fees. I know it’s speculation but would be interesting to hear opinions from the RMAs on the ground.

Hi @AusDream,

I think you could tackle this in a few different ways - from the teacher front and from an immigration side.

I’d first join an Australian teacher forum - there’s a couple on FB that you could put into the search terms e.g. Beginning teachers, Australian Secondary teachers [I’m assuming there’s one like this as there’s Australian Prep teachers, Australian Grade 1,  Early Years etc.] I’m sure you catch my drift. On these forums you can ask your professional questions and get on the ground feedback. I think also look on the different State education websites and see what sorts of adverts they have for teachers and the requirements expected. Once you’ve established what the requirements are, you can then check that against your qualifications and see where you sit. 

Next, choose the state you’d like to teach in and see what their teacher registration requirements are.

On the immigration front, you can also google AITSL and click on their migration tab. See their requirements for a positive skills assessment. You’ll need this to migrate.

Depending on which State you’ve chosen, check what their requirements are for offshore applications for teachers in terms of work experience post qualification. You could also look into a working holiday visa that you can use to come over if you qualify, try and get a teaching job to gain Australian work experience and as a way to scout the industry to see if it’s what you want. 

As much as your concerns on teaching native English speakers are valid, I really wouldn’t stress too much about this. If you are passionate about your role, relationships with your students will overcome any language issues that may arise. Most times students want to be valued and heard to breakdown these barriers. 

I am sure I have left out other relevant  information but others will chip in as well.

Good luck

On 25/03/2020 at 16:15, Areyousure said:

I’ll be having 85 points with state sponsorship for early childhood teacher, so I have chance to be called this year?

I’m also an ECT. Good to finally find another one as haven’t seen too many around  I think secondary is more popular.

2 hours ago, Arcadia53 said:

It doesn’t seem to have head teacher on it but I definitely saw it . My wife still has regular teaching experience though 

Possibly check on the VETASSESS site as it might be under them.

4 hours ago, Otugo said:

So, when one is on a bridging visa A awaiting partner visa, when you get invited for a skilled permanent visa 190 6 months post Bridging visa A; can one apply for the 190?

I would get in contact with one of the reputable MARA registered agents who post regularly on this site to find out. You don’t want to shoot yourself in the foot nor miss out on a potential opportunity due to lack of knowledge. 

15 hours ago, Arcadia53 said:

No none of the above yet but have contacted go Matilda who are getting back to me Monday . 

For teachers, AITSL is the best place to start to check what is required to get a positive skills assessment. It takes about 10 weeks from submission to know the outcome. Have a poke around the AITSL site and download the information pack that best suits your circumstances.

As for the State sponsored 190, check the specific state’s requirements as they differ.

https://www.aitsl.edu.au/migrate-to-australia

Migrate to Australia

The Australian Institute for Teaching and School Leadership (AITSL) provides skills assessment services to teachers who wish to migrate to Australia. A skills assessment determines suitability for school teacher occupations for Australia’s skilled migration program.

24 minutes ago, Lucindansw said:

Hi yes we're hoping to get an extra 10 points with superior, but the test is crazy hard! 

Are you taking IELTS? If so, try E2 Language even if it’s self study on YouTube. There’s some lessons by one of their guys called Jay who is great. He breaks it down so you understand what is needed and how to get there.  

10 minutes ago, BethanLouise88 said:

This is why I was making enquiries. I have 85 points, all of which are fully accounted for. 

I'm looking into the additional 5 for work experience in Australia to potentially change my EOI to 90. But I would not do this without being certain. Hence asking if anyone knew of anything about the issue.

 

The best advice I have recieved is to send off my details to AITSL and complete the SES. (Yes I have a positive AITSL). My understanding is that I would need to complete the SES either way for the visa, so I shall do that and see how it goes. 

'How many hours do I need to work for my employment to be considered?

You must have worked a minimum of 20 hours per week and for at least a continuous four-week period before the employment can be considered as contributing to the requirement of either one year in Australia or three years overseas.'

 

This is from the AITSL and this is why I was asking about whether anyone had any information.

 

Thank you for your responses all

I am a teacher as well and the last time I checked with AITSL (I called them before the new system of email only kicked in) they said that to claim Australian work experience one needs to have completed a full year of teaching IN AUSTRALIA at the time of application for the SES to reflect the same. What you’ve quoted above are their minimum requirement for teaching work experience to be considered. Some teaching positions e.g. early childhood teachers teach in a 5 day *a fortnight* government approved Kindy program that would lock them out if the requirement were 38 hours *per week* in the classroom.

My thoughts are, send them an email with your inquiry and they’ll respond in a week or so. Tell them what you stated that you’ve worked for 11 weeks etc and see what they say. They’re usually pretty good at clearing things up before you commit the odd $200+ for an SES. Good luck

Sorry the content I pasted from the Live in Victoria site did not attach properly when viewed on phone. I am also unable to edit it.

On 15/05/2019 at 21:28, Guest said:

I've everything ready for AHPRA, I'd rather a 190 visa as I'm 38 etc. I was informed I didn't need the registration to apply for the 190 . 

I  enquired about sponsorship as I thought  I would be waiting longer for an invite. 

So I have to register and fly over to Australia to collect my registration and fly home if I don't have my visa granted. 

Sorry to hear about your predicament but looking at the Live in Melbourne site on state 190 nomination, it does say that the person 'Must have registration (or approval in principle) from the Nursing and Midwifery Board of Australia.' I will attach a link to the site. Not sure if this is what you read when applying but it might be of some help to you. Good luck

https://liveinmelbourne.vic.gov.au/migrate/visa-nomination-occupation-lists/visa-nomination-occupation-list-for-victoria

Health

Applications for Nursing occupations have a new application process. All other Health occupations remain unaffected by this new process. For more information, see How to apply for Victorian visa nomination: ICT, nursing, engineering and building occupations on the Skilled Nominated visa (subclass 190) page.

Education

Hi @BethanLouise88,

Do you have a positive skills assessment from AITSL yet? They are in charge of doing your SES (Skilled Employment Statement) that you’d use to claim your work experience. If you have a suitable skills assessment then gather the evidence you require and apply for an SES. Visit their website for the specific requirements. If it’s comes back as positive then Bob’s your uncle. Good luck 

Forms the AITSL site

When can I apply for a Skilled Employment Statement?

Applicants who have obtained a Skills Assessment Certificate will be eligible to request a Skilled Employment Statement (SES). Only employment undertaken after the date you have met the AITSL skills assessment qualification criterion will be counted as skilled employment. You can request an SES at any time within the two-year period your Skills Assessment Certificate remains valid. Applicants who do not receive a Skills Assessment Certificate are ineligible to apply for an SES.

I think you also may need a skills assessment as per immi website:

You must

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/temporary-graduate-485/graduate-work

2 hours ago, Raul Senise said:

Except for the $800 fee 

5 points don’t come cheap Raul (That is said in jest by the way). I am still in the ‘waiting for invite’ journey so sometimes you do what you have to do to get yourself ahead.