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Subclass 886-The waiting game


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Depends on the type of job you are going for. If you are a graduate, then most of the jobs ask for visa status on the application form. You have to tick OTHER!!!! so you are very very lucky to even get an interview without PR. Then if you are lucky enough to get an interview, you are up against all the other applicants who are usually Australian. Unless you have something very special to offer you have very little chance. Hardly any employer knows anything about the bridging visa A, even if you take the appropriate copy of the details with you. According to interview last week, the employer has to check your status every 3 months, so how many are going to bother to employ someone who needs that to be done.

 

All off the above are true unless you got really high grades (HD) and/or good contacts in workforce.

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If you have already made an onshore application, you need to be onshore at the time of grant. If you leave and dont want to come back until you get the PR then you can leave and come back in on a tourist visa.

 

If I was you, I'd appoint a Migration Agent, but if you keep immigration informed you can do it yourself.

 

If you leave your BV A will terminate but your 885 application will keep being processed. Basically you'll lose your work rights until the 885 is granted.

 

There is no point making an offshore application, as its slower and will cost you.

 

cheers

 

Mark Hoath

MARN 0956672

markh@ausmigrate.biz

 

Why would you want to work on casual jobs on BVA when you can work overseas in a professional role that is relevant to your studies

There is no obligation to be onshore during processing

 

Maybe having a 485 and then leaving makes more sense ... then you have work rights and entry rights for 18 months ...

 

Hi Jane

 

I'd suggest double checking with an experienced RMA before you follow the above advice from Mr Hoath, frankly.

 

The first two digits of a Registered Migration Agent's MARN show the year in which the Agent first became registered with the MARA.

 

Mr Hoath's "About us" page is here:

 

Australian Migration & Employment - Visa Specialists

 

On their Home Page, the above trio of beginners say that they all completed the Grad Cert, Which did not begin until mid-2006 and the course contents are so basic that it is a disgrace imho. It is alarming that none of the trio claim to be Australian solicitors as well? Does any of them have a degree in Aussie Law, at least, do you know?

 

If somebody on a BVA leaves Australia, how is this person going to get back into Australia for the grant of the onshore visa? They cannot use a tourist visa to get back in because the purpose of their return would be "to obtain Permanent Residence in Oz" - which is NOT the purpose of a tourist visa so a tourist visa would not be granted and trying to apply for one could raise Character issues with the PR visa if the applicant does not tell the absolute truth in the application for a tourist visa.

 

If, as Hoath claims, the onshore visa application would continue to be processed, it could be processed so fast that the CO would find it necessary to refuse the PR visa because the applicant is not in Australia at the time when the CO is ready to make a decision. DIAC could use their "early decision" procedure to bring this about.

 

If you want top quality, accurate, experienced immigration law advice in Sydney, the only people whom I, personally, would trust are George Lombard or Nigel Dobbie:

 

Profile | George Lombard Consultancy Pty. Ltd.

 

Dobbie and Devine Immigration Lawyers Pty Ltd

 

George was first registered in 1996, Nigel in 1993. If Nigel is in Sydney, he will give you some free advice about Bridging Visas over the phone and his advice would be 100% accurate. I think George charges for telephone advice but Nigel definitely doesn't.

 

Personally, I have far more faith in the organ grinder than I have in the monkey.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

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Thanks Gill ! Most of us have multiple entry rights through visa 485 that we get after graduation. So we don't need a BVB to come back or even a tourist visa ... Therefore circumventing the Character issues

 

This method works only if a person is on CSL or SS/ :biggrin: because the applicant is granted a visa within 20-25 months as a rule....

 

 

A 485 takes 4-5 months depending on what you studied ... during that time you have to stay in Aus ... once you get the 485... you can come and go as you please for 18 months ...

 

Yes I think I will be better off double checking the advice ...

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LOCATION WHEN VISA IS GRANTED - 'ONSHORE' GSM VISA APPLICATIONS:

 

If you apply for an 'onshore' GSM visa, you must be in Australia for your visa to be granted. If you are outside Australia when your visa application is due to be finalised, the department will contact you, requesting your arrival details. Advice will be sent to the last contact address you provided. The letter will specify the time period you and all family members included in your application, have to return to Australia.

 

Apparently things are shaping up now. This is an excerpt in email from DIAC ... I had asked them if I can go offshore after I apply for 885. Basically they said yes you can but you must be back in Australia for it to get granted.

 

So now I have to figure out if I can get a visa that will let me have entry rights :-)

 

YEY one hurdle down ... a million more to go

So now onto the next question ...

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well i just started looking, so cant say much, but i havnt seen anyone in 4 years that i spent here, who doesnt have PR and have a job... so i think it is hard

 

It's not THAT hard. If anybody asked, which was rare - but I am Anglo-Saxon so not obviously an International, I just said "My visa affords me full work rights". This is technically true for a BV and that is all any employer needs to know.

 

Ignore anything that says you need PR to apply and if you need to tick a box always tick "YES". If you get an interview and they ask, you can always explain that your BV affords you full working rights and your PR application is being processed.

Basically if you tick "No" or don't apply you won't even get your foot in the door so it's better to bend the truth slightly and at least give yourself the opportunity to explain.

 

Whatever you do DO NOT:

1. VOLUNTARILY MENTION YOUR VISA STATUS

2. ENQUIRE ABOUT SPONSORSHIP

 

1. will just lead to a lot of questions and 2. makes it look like you are just after sponsorship and don't care about the job.

 

I know lots of people from all over who have got proper jobs on BV's.

 

If they want you and you impress them your visa status is not an issue.

 

It is always harder to find a job without PR but don't handicap yourself! You won't get a job for being too forthcoming, just tell them what they need to know - you are eligible to work, full stop.

 

Best of luck.

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Hi adrianyts

 

Have you heard from your C/O yet? I'm in a similar situation as you. I'm a mechanical engineer and applied for 886 (state sponsored + CSL) on 30th April 2010. I'm still waiting for my C/O. thks

 

Cheers

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It is always harder to find a job without PR but don't handicap yourself! You won't get a job for being too forthcoming, just tell them what they need to know - you are eligible to work, full stop.

 

Best of luck.

 

It always depends on a range of factors such as uni grades, who you know in workforce and luck to an extent.

 

People on work visa have no PR yet they are working, so I guess its not too hard. Government jobs are out of question but there are lot of opportunities in private sector.

 

Those who are accountants, KPMG allows international accounting graduates to apply, Same with Deloitte.

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