n111kkx Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 My husband, daughter and myself are currently applying for state skilled sponsorship in Victoria. My sister already lives in Sydney. If all is succesful this would just leave my mum and dad in the UK and they would look to move to Australia. However, I have been looking at visas for them and the timeline is saying it can take 10 years to get? Can anyone advise if this is correct or if there is a better route for my parents to come to Australia. Both are aged 60 and financially secure and both have very good health. N111kkx Dorset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Hi N111kkx Welcome to Poms in Oz. The Contributory Parent visa takes about 18 months at present: Family - Visas & Immigration Parent Migration Booklet Parent Visa Charges The first issue with Parents is always the Balance of Family Test. Are you and your sister your parents' only children? No children from earlier relationships on either side? If they are OK on that bit, is your sister in Sydney an Australian Citizen or Permanent Resident? Sister would need to Sponsor Mum & Dad's application and ideally she is able to do so immediately without waiting for the outcome of your own application. Most Parents doing the CPV route opt for the immediately permanent CPV 143. If your Parents are able to apply before 30th June 2010 then the current fees for a CPV 143 are as follows: $1,705 - the charge for processing the application. One fee covers both Parents. $34,330 - per parent. This money is not payable until just before the visa is granted. It is a deemed notional Contribution of 12.5% of the Parent's possible health etc costs on a remainder-of-life basis and is the idea that gives the visa its name. In addition there are costs for the meds, police checks, certifying copy documents etc plus Agent's fees if they decide to use an agent though it is not a complicated visa so it is up to the family to decide whether or not to involve a third party. This visa also requires that the Parents must be provided with an Assurance of Support. Centrelink administer the AoS side of things on DIAC's behalf: Assurance of Support Up to three individuals can club together to provide an Assurance of Support. The Assurers must all be Australian Citizens or Permanent Residents but they do not have to be related to the visa applicants or to each other. The Assurers are means-tested by Centrelink according to the rules described in the Guide below: 9.4 Assurance of Support Scheme Part of the AoS Scheme is a requirement that the AoS must be backed up by the deposit of a Bond with the Commonwealth Bank of Australia. The Bond is held for 10 years but is released in full after the 10 years is up provided that the Parents have not made any recoverable claims on Centrelink during the AoS period. The amount of the Bond is $10,000 for the main applicant and $4,000 for the secondary applicant. The aim of the whole idea is that those who can afford it can buy a fast track visa without undue risk to the Government's coffers. It undoubtedly works. The CPV scheme has been a roaring success. My mother has a CPV 143 and by now so do thousands of other Parents of all nationalities since the introduction of the CPV Scheme in July 2003. Are there any perks with a CPV or is it all just one-way cost?! There are some perks: 1. Permanent Residency and a pathway to Citizenship if desired. 2. Full access to Medicare. 3. First Home Owners Grant. 3. Seniors Card in the short term. 4. Commonwealth Seniors Health Cards are usually also possible after 2 years. You probably know about the FHOG because it is relevant to you as well. Seniors Card can be claimed immediately if one qualifies for it: Welcome to Seniors Card The main thing with this card is not the discounts in shops, art galleries, public transport etc. Most States give Seniors Card holders up to 25% of their rates, water rates and car registration fees each year. After 2 years most CPV holders who are old enough are also able to claim the Commonwealth Seniors Health Card: Commonwealth Seniors Health Card Seniors Concession Allowance gives a second amount of up to 25% off rates, water rates and car registration fees each year, plus help with phone bills etc. It is costly but it is comparitively quick. Cheers Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n111kkx Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 Thank you so much for your help, me and my sister are the only relatives. If our visa comes through during the next year could my mum and dad come out on a 1 year holiday visa? I cant bear the thought of them being on their own in the UK for 2 or more years wiating for a visa to come through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Hi N111kkx DIAC are normally very generous about allowing British Parents to visit Oz for up to a year at a time if they want to. Tourist Visa (Subclass 676) This bit is not a problem, so dont worry about it. You can all be assured that there is no reason for Mum & Dad to be stuck on their own in the UK for any longer than they want to be. Cheers Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris_mac Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Great thread, much applies to my family to. Brilliant information Gill, thank you. Just replying so its in my cp. Best wishes Chris x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest threespire Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 ....and me Gill - same will a[pply to my parents too ! My sis is already in Sydney (has PR and will be citizen this year hopefully) so she'll supply the AoS and we're awaiting our 175 - hoping to be in Sydney next year ---if house sells !!! Thanks for the great info and Good luck N111kkx and Chris Kirst xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 ....and me Gill - same will a[pply to my parents too ! My sis is already in Sydney (has PR and will be citizen this year hopefully) so she'll supply the AoS and we're awaiting our 175 - hoping to be in Sydney next year ---if house sells !!! Thanks for the great info and Good luck N111kkx and Chris Kirst xx Hi Kirst Have your parents already lodged their CPV application? If you and your sister are the only children that either of your Parents have (ie there are no other children from earlier relationships on either side) then if they want to Mum & Dad could apply for Parent migration whenever they like. As long as she has PR, there is no need to wait for your sister's Citizenship to be granted or for your own visa to be processed. Cheers Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest threespire Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Hi Kirst Have your parents already lodged their CPV application? If you and your sister are the only children that either of your Parents have (ie there are no other children from earlier relationships on either side) then if they want to Mum & Dad could apply for Parent migration whenever they like. As long as she has PR, there is no need to wait for your sister's Citizenship to be granted or for your own visa to be processed. Cheers Gill Hi Gill, They are waiting til we get our 175 just to be certain that we can all be there. I know it is unlikely we will be refused , but better safe than sorry. They will then have to selll their house as they will need the capital from that to pay the CPV fee (although I notice they don't need to pay the huge part til near visa grant time) so it may be that they will apply as soon as we get ours and then can put house up for sale in the meantime? Thankyou so much , your advice is always spot on and very much appreciated !! Kirst xxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n111kkx Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 A huge relief, thank you. We have applied for state sponsorship, my OH has his skills test on 7th August then fingers crossed we can apply for a 176 visa (everything crossed, it seems to be moving far quicker than we expected) VETASSESS only took 10 days to book his skills test, we applied for regional sponsorship but was told that they need the trade (electrician) so to apply for state sponsorship instead so fingers crossed all is looking positive! Good luck everyone, and thank you all for your good advice N111KKX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Hi again, Kirst I've just noticed that you are in Lichfield. My half-sister lives near there. I've not been there for years but my late brother in law was the Tory MP for Staffs SE until his sudden death in December 1996. I went up to Lichfield for his funeral and I recall that it was bitterly cold outside the Cathedral and not that much warmer inside. Really much colder than the South Coast were we get the micro climate from the IoW. Turrning to your visa, I see that OH's occupation is on the CSL. If he meets all the criteria for the visa then the legislation states that DIAC must grant the visa. They do not have a discretion about it. This being so, in your shoes I would at least get Mum & Dad's CPV application prepared, because you will find that just getting everything ready for their application to be ready for submission will take 2-3 months. It always takes longer than people expect it to take, you will find. Do everything else but just leave dating and signing it until the day you are ready to send it off, I would suggest. There is no sense in delaying things for Mum & Dad in my view because you need not actually send the application until all of you feel comfortable about doing so. Cheers Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Annabe Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 thanks so much for the excellent concise info; I wonder if I could trouble you for an opinion. My son lives in Brisbane, earns enough to sponsor me - I am soon to turn 54 and have funds for a contributory parent visa; however I do not have funds to live in retirement! I need - and want - to work. After paying the visa fees and contribution I would not be able to buy a house, but really want to work in Oz. Is this allowed? Could I come out on a 12 month visitor's visa and look for work while waiting for a CP visa to be processed? I am fit and health (touch wood). I appreciate how you took the gobbledegook out of all the jargon, and am a newcomer to forums at all, and would like to 'thank' you but haven't worked out how! - Ann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest threespire Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Hi Ann, Have a look on teh immigration website www.immi.gov.au and then under migrants, family and parents you can get all the necessary info. I have copied the overview below for you for the CPV and you can see it allows you to work once granted. Hope it helps, Kirsty x PS - Gill - just re read old posts on here and saw you know Lichfield - small world hey !!!! Contributory Parent (Migrant) Visa (Subclass 143) About this Visa How this Visa Works Eligibility Obligations Applying for this Visa About this Visa This visa allows parents to migrate to Australia permanently, to join their children who are living in Australia. This visa requires that you be sponsored by your child, or another eligible sponsor, in Australia. Who is this visa for? This visa is for you if you are a parent of a child or stepchild who is a settled Australian citizen, settled permanent resident or settled eligible New Zealand citizen and: at least half of your children are permanently resident in Australia or you have more children living permanently in Australia than in any other country Your partner and other family members may be included in your application if they meet certain requirements. See: Definitions How much will this visa cost? You must pay a visa application charge when you lodge your visa application. This application charge covers you and all family members included in your application and will usually not be refunded if your application is unsuccessful, or if you decide to withdraw your application after you have lodged it. A second visa application charge for each person included in the application is also required before the visa is granted. See: Parent Visa Charges What does this visa let me do? This visa allows you, your accompanying partner and dependent family members to live as permanent residents in Australia. You can also: work and study in Australia receive subsidised healthcare through Medicare and the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS) access certain social security payments (subject to waiting periods) be eligible to apply for Australian citizenship (subject to the residency eligibility criteria) sponsor people for permanent residence (subject to waiting periods). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Annabe Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Thanks for this; I have downloaded info and can meet the fees ... but am not an IT specialist or mining engineer ... I see some of the contributors in this thread are living in the UK .. maybe waiting to get to Oz? - anyway, I hear rumours of the recession biting down under too ... my son is a Civil Engineer in Brisbane. He couldn't really shed much light on my chances of finding work, but hey I'm 'job-seeking' here in the UK. I was trying to get a feel for my chances of finding work as an ancient crock in a land of the young - I am very eager and young-minded and fit, but apart from not really looking my age, folk just seem to think I should be thinking about early retirement - I'm not ready for that. Anyway, thanks for the pointers and - how do I do the 'thanks' thing?:confused: Ann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest threespire Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Just click the "thanks" tab at the bottom of the post you want to thank !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Hi Annabe Welcome to Poms in Oz. Most of the contributors on this thread are skilled applicants themselves, concerned about how their Parents might follow them to Oz. Parents and Contributory Parents are not expected to have any skills or to be able to speak English. They do not test either aspect. Once you have your CPV you can work at any job you like, absolutely without any restriction or question. You can literally accept any job offer, or start your own business, or a combination of both - you are as free to work as if you had been an Australian Citizen all your life. What is your current occupation and what work would you like to do in Brisbane as a matter of interest? Depending on what you do, I might be able to put you in touch with a very helpful recruitment agent in the Brisbane area. My mother has a CPV but she is in her late 80s so she isn't a candidate for the mainstream workforce in Perth! I know loads of CPV holders though. One of the ladies living in Brisbane on a CPV must be around 60 or 61 now. She wanted a full time job so she went out and got one. She loves it. She is doing something in an office but I don't know what, exactly. Similarly younger Parents in Perth who want to work full time have all been able to find full time jobs. Cheers Gill Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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