Betty40 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 We really want to move over. My husband is the career one but being in the police moving is not an option (even though he is in specialised cyber crime department - you would think being a wizz in it security would be sought after but i cant see it) So then, maybe i should re train. But what in? My background is marketing but i am pretty savvy and can study etc. Any advice? I need a long term feasible plan. Help appreciated, Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Can your husband apply as an IT Professional, I'm pretty sure security is still on the SOL that's what my OH did his skills assessment in. Otherwise whatever you do is a huge risk as the SOL changes and you could spend 3 years studying and be 2 years into post qualifying experience to find your skill is taken off the list. And that's the thing, almost every skill needs post qualifying experience so it's not just the time training. The one exception I know of is engineering where a degree (that meets specific criteria) is all that is required so that is probably the quickest route. If your husbands skills are transferable outside the police then a risky option is for you to study in Australia whilst he up skills to pass an ACS skills assessment - he would be able to work full time while you were a student. You could work 20 hours a week and full time in holidays. Unless there was a route via your husband though once you finished the course you would need to return to the UK to gain experience before applying for a skilled visa. It would be very expensive to be an international student though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Unfortunately nothing is guaranteed these days. Doctor, dentist or nurse would probably be the most secure options if you are looking very long term but those are so long that you might be too old by the time you've qualified anyway. Plenty of people in Australia want to be policemen too - it's more of a recession proof occupation and with the rise in unemployment it is in quite high demand again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty40 Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 i know we missed the boat on the police front which is a nightmare. I understand what you mean about the training and taking things off the list too. Not sure about the it but this may be thes best way but then again unsure how much they want his skills and who to ask/go to. He is doing a job which i think is really good for the future- investigating cyber crime so putting his detective skills together with it skills surely is desirable. There arnt many people in the uk doing this so you would think it would be a good thing but its where to start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Oh I see Security is no longer on SOL - is on CSOL so another risky route is for your husband to seek a sponsor - again no guarantee you can stay but it works out for some. You don't mention children so I have assumed it's just the two of you, if not then the student or 457 route are really not recommended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty40 Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 we have children Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 http://deltaimmigration.com.au/ICT-Security-Specialist/262112.htm There are some state sponsorship options (assuming his IT skills are sufficient to pass a skills assessment) I suggest seeing a migration agent for an initial consultation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 we have children Hey people have different views and it depends on age but the education systems are quite different so you don't want to be forced to move after they reach 14 IMHO. State sponsorship would give you permanent residency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty40 Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 thanks will look, they are only young so would be primary age. thanks any any other advice is great as feeling very about it all but will keep searching! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Our son spent 5 years in Australia from age 5-10 and I don't think it has done him any harm, he is maybe not as settled as he would have been but on the plus side he sees a world full of opportunity and talks about working in Vancouver or LA in a way that most 13 year olds probably don't. We chose to come back though which is quite different from losing your job and having to move back in 90 days which is what faces some that are employee sponsored, it must be hard to settle with that hanging over you. The first thing to look at is whether your OH would be able to get a positive ACS skills assessment. You don't need an IT related degree as you can do a 'recognition of prior learning' From the ACS website: There are 2 categories of RPL applications. 1. Applicants with a degree qualification that does not contain ICT content, require a minimum of6 years of full time professional ICT skilled employment in a field closely related to thenominated occupation ANZSCO Code. 2. Applicants with no tertiary qualifications require an additional 2 years of ICT skilledemployment (8 years in total) but in this instance the additional 2 years are not required to berelevant to the ANZSCO code. The ACS assessment rules are quite complex and the RPL itself not trivial, I would always commend ICT applicants & especially those doing an RPL to get help from a migration agent. We used OE and I would recommend them, my OH got a lot of help with his RPL and references. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) Maybe it's time to sit down and analyse what is really so fabulous about Australia that it's worth working for years to get there? Don't get me wrong - I love Australia and I'm heading back there shortly. But if something happened tomorrow and I couldn't go back, I would NOT put my life on hold for four or five years while I worked on a plan which might or might not let me return. I would just accept that door is closed, and make the most of my life in the UK. Ask almost anyone on these forums and they'll tell you, life in Australia is not better than in the UK, it's just different. It's a matter of personal preference which fits you best, just like some people prefer milk chocolate and some people prefer dark chocolate. As evidence of that, look at the number of members on PIO who tried Australia (sometimes for several years) and decided they preferred the UK - and remember, all of those people originally went to Australia thinking they were going to "live the dream", or they wouldn't have jumped through all those hoops! Of course you'll also find many members who love their life in Australia, just pointing out that it's nowhere near as much of a no-brainer as you may think. I think it's still a great lifestyle for young kids growing up, so I can understand the attraction of bringing them to Oz while they're little. But once they finish school, they'll have more limited education choices and fewer career opportunities than in the UK, simply because it's a smaller market. I don't know what other features of Australian life are making you so desperate to get to Oz, but perhaps if you share some of them, people can advise whether they're realistic or not? Edited June 23, 2016 by Marisawright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty40 Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 Thanks i understand that but then i open up a whole debate on the subject which is very subjective isnt it. Although i am free for any pm's if anyone would like to its just not something i want to debate really. I wouldnt want to put my life on hold for years more like work towards something whilst living at the same time if you see what I mean. For example if there is something my husband should be doing with work to gain employment there he could do it at the same time here which also benefits regardless. As i see it its a no go but i want to at least try, try and work towards something.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I wouldnt want to put my life on hold for years more like work towards something whilst living at the same time if you see what I mean. For example if there is something my husband should be doing with work to gain employment there he could do it at the same time here which also benefits regardless. As i see it its a no go but i want to at least try, try and work towards something.. No reason why you shouldn't, if the course will benefit you in your future in the UK as much as in Australia then it's worth doing. As you say, opinions of Australia are completely subjective, that's my point too. I do worry that being reluctant to discuss your perception of the country means you're not willing to have your dream challenged - if you've got the right reasons for wanting to go, it won't be dented by a few people expressing contrary views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selina Smith Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Do you have a degree? If so you could think about doing a one year PGCE course to go into teaching. You don't need post qualification experience to pass the skills assessment. I completely changed careers to be able to migrate to Australia so our life for the past 5 years has been about making the move and now we have our visa and fly out in August :-) My degree was in animal science but I was accepted onto an Early Years PGCE after volunteering in a local primary school. If you really want it you can do it! Good luck x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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