Cubiscus Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Hi Guys, We moved here as PRs in September and had a child in January, just got her UK passport and now looking at her Aussie one which is proving trickier - Can anyone help with proof of permanent residency? Apparently visa labels are no longer available and none of the items here are acceptable - http://www.border.gov.au/Lega/Lega/Form/Immi-FAQs/born-after-1986-one-parent-resident I’m confused, why can’t the passport office just check VEVO? What is acceptable? Anyone have any experience of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungo Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 You don't go straight to the passport application. You have to first of all obtain proof of her citizenship, then when you have that you apply for the passport. I am sure immigration can see that you are permanent residents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubiscus Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 You don't go straight to the passport application. You have to first of all obtain proof of her citizenship, then when you have that you apply for the passport. I am sure immigration can see that you are permanent residents.Yes I know, the certificate of citizenship requires one parent's proof of PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungo Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Yes I know, the certificate of citizenship requires one parent's proof of PR. I am baffled, why don't they just look you up? Failing that, visa grant letter? Look yourself up o VEVO and take a screen prints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Do you not have your visa grant notice? I printed a couple of full copies of that off for when required to show PR status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubiscus Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 As per the DIPB website the following are not acceptable - http://www.border.gov.au/Lega/Lega/Form/Immi-FAQs/born-after-1986-one-parent-resident parent's foreign passport with visa label Visa Entitlement Verification Online (VEVO) printout visa grant notification letter Certificate of Evidence of Resident Status (CERS) Certificate of Status for New Zealand Citizens in Australia (CSNZCA) ImmiCard Freedom of Information (FOI) letter from the Department of Immigration and Border Protection. Which invites the question of what is acceptable?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Libra Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 As per the DIPB website the following are not acceptable - http://www.border.gov.au/Lega/Lega/Form/Immi-FAQs/born-after-1986-one-parent-resident Which invites the question of what is acceptable?! That is an application for a passport. You have to get Citizenship Cert first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubiscus Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 That is an application for a passport. You have to get Citizenship Cert first.I know. Which also needs proof of permanent residency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Libra Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I know. Which also needs proof of permanent residency. https://www.passports.gov.au/passportsexplained/theapplicationprocess/eligibilityoverview/Pages/confirmingcitizenship.aspx Seems pretty clear cut to me. You did your visa app yourself, surely this is easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungo Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I know. Which also needs proof of permanent residency. I am really struggling to understand your issue. It is very easy to prove your PR status, why is it that you cannot do so? You have listed a number of ways to do so yourself, so what exactly is the problem? It is very hard to help you when it all seems so very straight forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyNook Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 The OP has listed all the documents that are NOT acceptable for proving his PR status. The only acceptable item which will prove his PR status is a stamp in his passport - which he doesn't have and cannot get. Hence his dilemma. There was a similar discussion on here a few weeks ago - think it was Brian (trying to organise passports for his new baby) who had the same issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyNook Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Apologies for misunderstanding in previous post but I'm a bit slow today. Bungo is correct. The list of unacceptable documents you listed are for passport applications. They're not necessarily unacceptable for the Evidence of Citizenship Certificate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubiscus Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 I am really struggling to understand your issue. It is very easy to prove your PR status, why is it that you cannot do so? You have listed a number of ways to do so yourself, so what exactly is the problem? It is very hard to help you when it all seems so very straight forward.Those are documents that are NOT acceptable for a passport application. If they were I wouldn't be asking the question. The question is related to both the citizenship certificate and passport application itself. The certificate I'll try with VEVO or my visa grant and we'll see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubiscus Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 The only acceptable item which will prove his PR status is a stamp in his passport - which he doesn't have and cannot get. There was a similar discussion on here a few weeks ago - think it was Brian (trying to organise passports for his new baby) who had the same issue. Correct - was there a resolution to that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isabelj28 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 If you look on the form that is attached to the link you posted, the form (pg.5) says; You were born in Australia after 20 August 1986. At least one of your parents was a permanent resident of Australia at the time of your birth. This is would apply to your daughter. Then, when you look over in the supporting documents needed, column, it says; evidence of one parents permanent residence in Australia (if available). i think the 'if available' is the key. Elsewhere on the form you have to provide your passport details, so I'm sure that they'll just check this to ensure the attached visa was current at the time of the birth of your daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Re the stamp in the passport, if that is what is required to show you were resident, surely you had your passport stamped on entry to Aus by immigration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubiscus Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 Double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubiscus Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 Re the stamp in the passport, if that is what is required to show you were resident, surely you had your passport stamped on entry to Aus by immigration?No stamp for me, all electronic. I understand they stopped doing visa labels too as of September last year. i think the 'if available' is the key. Elsewhere on the form you have to provide your passport details, so I'm sure that they'll just check this to ensure the attached visa was current at the time of the birth of your daughter.Thanks, and any idea what is acceptable for the passport application itself? It specifically says VEVO and the grant letter are not acceptable (I'm not sure why). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isabelj28 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 just her citizenship certificate is all that's required for the passport. Sorry and her birth certificate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubiscus Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 just her citizenship certificate is all that's required for the passportIt's not, unless I've misunderstood something I'm required to provide proof of PR as part of the application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isabelj28 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 You have misunderstood. You don't need to provide proof of your residence status for the passport application, just your photo ID and proof of address. It's on the passport office website. For the child to qualify for a passport, you need to confirm their Australian citizenshipand prove their personal identity, using original documents. Persons born in Australia on or after 20 August 1986 are Australian citizens only if at least one of their parents was an Australian citizen or permanent resident at the time of their birth. If your child was born in Australia, you must present their full Australian birth certificate when you lodge their application, together with additional documentation to prove their Australian citizenship. When you click on the 'prove their Australian citizenship' link you get the following; If you were born in Australia on or after 20 August 1986 and one (or both) of your parents was an Australian permanent resident, you must provide evidence of your own Australian citizenship with a citizenship certificate issued by the Department of Immigration and Border Protection (DIBP). You will need to apply for this using Form 119 Application for evidence of Australian citizenship (pdf). You should take into account DIBP and passport processing times before booking any travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubiscus Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 Are you sure? http://www.border.gov.au/Lega/Lega/Form/Immi-FAQs/born-after-1986-one-parent-resident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isabelj28 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Certain. Go on the passport office website and follow the links to the child passport section. What the link that you've posted is trying to say is that you can't apply for a passport without the citizenship certificate just by proving your parents are permanrnt residents, you have to get the certificate first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaggieMay24 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 You need to complete form 119 as mentioned above, to get proof of her citizenship. You can then apply for her passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubiscus Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 So I don't need any proof of PR for the certificate or passport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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