Ben Ling Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Evening all. A quick search of the forums shows this has in some ways been asked before, but not for a while and not specifically to this. I'm about to apply for a partner visa so me and the Australian wife can settle in Brisbane with her family. I have a concern that I will fail the medical becuase i have a) had cancer, 4 years ago but dismissed from NHS a year ago as they are happy i have no chance of reoccurance and b) becuase i have an ileostomy. I think its b. that will be the problem as i require medical prescriptions to maintain my stoma. anyone had an experience of this or have any advice? thanks all :-) Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzukiscottie Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 At the medical you'll be asked to provide further supporting info within 28 days. Your medical team will write a few sentences about your diagnosis, treatment and ongoing care. The Medical Officer at immigration will use that info to calculate a likely forward costing for any care you may need. My supporting info was basically along the lines of "he was diagnosed with......., we treated the symptom with.......... (Surgery, radiotherapy etc), his ongoing requirements are regular monitoring. Symptom now regarded as being dealt with satisfactorily". That type of thing. It doesn't sound to me like you have too much to worry about regarding the visa. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryannen Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Hi Ben, Can relate to this very much. I had just finished a year's Cancer treatment in my home of Australia when I was planning my then move to the UK with my then British future husband, this was back in end of 2003, and I was very worried as I thought there was a snowballs chance of me passing any physical at that time due to all the treatments and drugs that would have still been in my system. I rang up and eventually spoke to a lovely gentleman about it prior to putting my application in ...As written above he told me to get got a letter from my oncologist regarding it all, to verify that I was considered clear and only needing check ups, and to send it all in with my application. When it came to my actual interview the UK lady had all the information before her and the only question was... if the UK required it of me would I be willing to take out private health insurance? I said yes I would and that I had already looked up who provided that. End result was I didn't need to do that as yes they were satisfied that barring any reoccurence of my Cancer I would only need the follow up check ups periodically so they didn't see that as anything out of the ordinary or extra than anyone else might need. It pays off to be completely honest, I certainly wasn't trying to hide anything, and my visa was approved at the end of that very same interview. ....I will never forget being granted permission for my UK driver's licence picture allowing me to wear headgear in the picture ...in my case a scarf ....reason being my hair took a long time to grow back, at the time I was still pretty much bald, and I was upset to think I'd have to carry a bald pic of me for years ... I went to see the DVLA when I was changing my Aussie licence to a UK one ....the DVLA and the UK police agreed it was under the circumstances permissable for me to be exempt from the no head covering in pictures and accepted a picture of me with a scarf on. Small kindnesses but it meant a lot to me at the time. Am glad to read you have been given an all clear, I've been clear for 12 years now too, and I hope it all goes well with you. Just be honest and get that documentation from your docs. I appreciate this is the reverse situation however some things are very reciprocal with the UK and Aus I'm heading home to Australia in May this year cheers Mary-Anne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Pom Queen Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Hi Ben, I was in a very similar situation as you and am also now with a Stoma. The cancer didn't stop me having a visa and I've had cancer and complications since being here. I think like you say it may be the Stoma that's a problem. I would definitely run your case by George Lombard as he has an ex panel doctor on his team. If you need help or advice on the Stoma programs here give me a shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzukiscottie Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just to be clear, the referral you get from the doctor at the medical will ask some specific questions to be answered by your medical team. It will also state what to do with the report, where it needs to be sent etc. You don't need to do anything right now. It all flows on from the medical. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just to be clear, the referral you get from the doctor at the medical will ask some specific questions to be answered by your medical team. It will also state what to do with the report, where it needs to be sent etc. You don't need to do anything right now. It all flows on from the medical. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sorry, but I disagree. The OP hasn't applied yet and as a result, it is important to get professional advice from someone such as George Lombard before applying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Pom Queen Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just to be clear, the referral you get from the doctor at the medical will ask some specific questions to be answered by your medical team. It will also state what to do with the report, where it needs to be sent etc. You don't need to do anything right now. It all flows on from the medical. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Mine was referred but they didn't request anything else as I had taken the step to get letters from my specialists acknowledging that no further treatment was necessary. This was years ago though, mind you I bet they wish they had never let me in as I've spent the last 4 years in and out of hospital and cost them a fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just to add that there is a medical waiver that can be applied to Partner Visas - ie they can be dealt with more leniently than Skills visas, and so many people who would not normally pass a medical can be allowed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzukiscottie Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Sorry, but I disagree. The OP hasn't applied yet and as a result, it is important to get professional advice from someone such as George Lombard before applying I know there is no application in progress yet. Hence why there is no requirement to get anything from the "docs" just yet. I was referring to the advice given to "get that info from your docs". No point getting anything from the "docs" until you have the medical referral for further info. The referral will ask for specific info which the "docs" will then be able to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryannen Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I know there is no application in progress yet. Hence why there is no requirement to get anything from the "docs" just yet. I was referring to the advice given to "get that info from your docs". No point getting anything from the "docs" until you have the medical referral for further info. The referral will ask for specific info which the "docs" will then be able to answer. Hi ya, Just to clarify my comment about getting the info from your doctor ....was after me seeking advice from the UK consulate ie phoning up and talking to the medical people there, PRIOR to submitting my visa application. It was indeed helpful, and was something they advised me to do, prior to submitting my application....The consulate interviewer did not need to refer me back to medical once they had my application with that documentation because they already had all the medical information. Perhaps it is different, as yes I was going from Australia to the UK at the time ....however I still feel it was easier to get that info from my doc beforehand, to submit it with my application, and yes was advised to do that by the very medical people who would making that assessment.....so no not a requirement but a strong recommendation from the consulate themselves. As some said above it's a good idea to get some professional advice from the very people who make those decisions ....Yes it took me quite some time to get to speak with the person who could give me the correct advice BUT it was worth it knowing what else might be required beforehand. Respectfully I disagree with you saying there is no point getting anything from your docs beforehand ....there is a very valid point in doing that as long as you know exactly what will be required ...and that can be found out prior to submitting the application by speaking to the medical people. Was just my experience and not trying to 'lead anyone up the garden path' so to speak. cheers Mary-Anne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Pom Queen Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Hi ya,Just to clarify my comment about getting the info from your doctor ....was after me seeking advice from the UK consulate ie phoning up and talking to the medical people there, PRIOR to submitting my visa application. It was indeed helpful, and was something they advised me to do, prior to submitting my application....The consulate interviewer did not need to refer me back to medical once they had my application with that documentation because they already had all the medical information. Perhaps it is different, as yes I was going from Australia to the UK at the time ....however I still feel it was easier to get that info from my doc beforehand, to submit it with my application, and yes was advised to do that by the very medical people who would making that assessment.....so no not a requirement but a strong recommendation from the consulate themselves. As some said above it's a good idea to get some professional advice from the very people who make those decisions ....Yes it took me quite some time to get to speak with the person who could give me the correct advice BUT it was worth it knowing what else might be required beforehand. Respectfully I disagree with you saying there is no point getting anything from your docs beforehand ....there is a very valid point in doing that as long as you know exactly what will be required ...and that can be found out prior to submitting the application by speaking to the medical people. Was just my experience and not trying to 'lead anyone up the garden path' so to speak. cheers Mary-Anne Hi @maryannen this was my experience to and saved us lots of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzukiscottie Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Perhaps it is different, as yes I was going from Australia to the UK at the time Yes immigration from Australia to the UK is different. It has nothing to do with the processes required by Australian immigration! When you are going through the process of immigration to Australia, you have to follow the rules and processes stipulated by Australian immigration. I'll repeat myself again. At the medical, you will be given a referral letter instructing your medical team to provide info and answers to any specific questions raised by the doctor conducting the medical. The referral letter has the date on it. The date of the medical consultation. What use would it be providing a report dated prior to the request for further info. Anything could happen medically in the time after that report. What would you know to ask to be put in the report? It's not really a difficult process, and comparing it to a process followed by someone emigrating to another country 13 years ago is pointless. By all means consult a migration agent to get a professional opinion on the immigration process. They don't write the medical report though. You still have to go through the process required of getting a HAP ID, booking medical, medical consultation, likely referral for further info, provision of said info within 28 days. And then waiting. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryannen Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Yes immigration from Australia to the UK is different. It has nothing to do with the processes required by Australian immigration! When you are going through the process of immigration to Australia, you have to follow the rules and processes stipulated by Australian immigration. I'll repeat myself again. At the medical, you will be given a referral letter instructing your medical team to provide info and answers to any specific questions raised by the doctor conducting the medical. The referral letter has the date on it. The date of the medical consultation. What use would it be providing a report dated prior to the request for further info. Anything could happen medically in the time after that report. What would you know to ask to be put in the report? It's not really a difficult process, and comparing it to a process followed by someone emigrating to another country 13 years ago is pointless. By all means consult a migration agent to get a professional opinion on the immigration process. They don't write the medical report though. You still have to go through the process required of getting a HAP ID, booking medical, medical consultation, likely referral for further info, provision of said info within 28 days. And then waiting. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Hi again, You are making assumptions here that some things are not the same when moving to Australia from the UK as opposed to moving from Australia to the UK. At the time I moved from Aus to the UK I also looked into my then fiance moving to Aus from UK ...so yes I was aware what was the same and what was different. I looked into it both ways so yes some requirements are very much the same. As an aside ....I ended up moving to the UK instead of him moving to Aus as at that time he had been caring for his ill father in the UK ....his father passed away suddenly and I felt it would be too much upheaval for him to come to Australia so offered to move to the UK instead. That is how I came to be in the UK instead of him moving to Australia. Things have changed in my life since then, my marriage split up a few years back, and that is why I am now returning home to Australia. I am in no way invalidating your experience by speaking of my own ....however I feel you have been nothing but disrespectful of my own experience in return and are making assumptions that I know nothing about the process of going to Australia. What is pointless is continuing to talk with someone who point blank will not acknowledge that others in this very thread have had different experiences from yourself and used different options. The very reply above yours from another poster confirms that there can be very valid reasons for supplying that medical information with the application, after seeking information from the medical people at the consulate, no matter whether you are going to Aus or to Britain. With respect I repeat we shall agree to disagree....my intention was to give the OP some feedback regarding my own experiences and to pass on the advice to contact the very people who could give the advice he was asking for in advance of him putting his application in ...which yes can save time. cheers Mary-Anne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Ling Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 Thanks for the advice guys. the eneral response seems to be it shouldnt be an issue, which is great news! didn't fancy spending $10k only to get rejected for somthing we could have predicted to start with! Speaking to various people and migration experts the consensus seems to be get the medical letters from surgons and oncologists now. Yes anything could happen between now and the medicals, but that's not their concern, they are writing reference to an illness 4 years ago, and our experience with UK immigration was that the more information and evidence you have when you start the process, the quicker and easier it will be. Currently in Oz and have been told the best way to apply is from outside, so we leave at the end of the month and going to have it handed in then, we will wait and see what happens! Thanks again for taking the time, appriciate it. B x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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