budeman Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 You can say that again. They used to be, but now GSM applications are handled by 'teams', as far as I can tell it is a case of first up- best dressed. At the end of the day a (section 65) authorised delegate has to make the decision. I had a look to see if any cases similar to yours had gone to review, but I did not find one. Sorry with regards to the 'gone to review' what does that involve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Sorry with regards to the 'gone to review' what does that involve? II meant a case where a visa refusal had been taken to the Migration Review Tribunal. Here is a link to one of my cases that went to review: http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/MRTA/2006/148.html?stem=0&synonyms=0&query=osorio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budeman Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 II meant a case where a visa refusal had been taken to the Migration Review Tribunal. Here is a link to one of my cases that went to review: http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/MRTA/2006/148.html?stem=0&synonyms=0&query=osorio Ok in my mind that sounds positive - Am I right in thinking that if one can’t be found that went to review this was because in the end the Visa was granted? Or am I just reading this as an optimist?? :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Ok in my mind that sounds positive - Am I right in thinking that if one can’t be found that went to review this was because in the end the Visa was granted? Or am I just reading this as an optimist?? :smile: Only about 20% of review cases are published. The fact that I did not find a relevant review case is not conclusive. For a decision to be reviewable on the merits it must (with some exceptions) be lodged in Australia, or be sponsored. There might have been cases that did not go to review, because the decision was not reviewable on the merits. It is quite possible that some applicants who relied on vendor qualifications (not an accounting degree) for their positive pre-migration skills assessment were awarded a qualifying immigration points score without being awarded 15 points for a degree. This thread has wandered on and off topic, mostly because of irrelevant questions and answers. It is irrelevant that an applicant relied on vendor qualifications and were granted visas. The issue is - were they awarded 15 points for their vendor qualification? By way of further digression - I have represented and advised engineers and IT applicants and others who held qualifications, assessed as not comparable to an Australian degree; all of whom succeeded. All the accountants I have represented, or advised how to do it themselves (with 100% success, so far) held accounting degrees and in some cases 'making the case' was not straightforward, because of syllabi content and electives and having to dig essential information out of clients a–word-at-a-time over many months. If I were consulted by a prospective client who held a vendor qualification in accounting, for which they needed 15 points to qualify, I would consult colleagues who practise in this area. You have to ’make the case’ one way or another. It might not be entirely appropriate to email 5000+ RMAs for advice, but it might be appropriate to email people who claim to have been awarded 15 points for an ABCD vendor qualification in accounting to disclose the relevant particulars. I shall chase it up the topic one of these days and file it in my database of useful information. I hope I have pointed you in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budeman Posted December 24, 2014 Author Share Posted December 24, 2014 Only about 20% of review cases are published. The fact that I did not find a relevant review case is not conclusive. For a decision to be reviewable on the merits it must (with some exceptions) be lodged in Australia, or be sponsored. There might have been cases that did not go to review, because the decision was not reviewable on the merits. It is quite possible that some applicants who relied on vendor qualifications (not an accounting degree) for their positive pre-migration skills assessment were awarded a qualifying immigration points score without being awarded 15 points for a degree. This thread has wandered on and off topic, mostly because of irrelevant questions and answers. It is irrelevant that an applicant relied on vendor qualifications and were granted visas. The issue is - were they awarded 15 points for their vendor qualification? By way of further digression - I have represented and advised engineers and IT applicants and others who held qualifications, assessed as not comparable to an Australian degree; all of whom succeeded. All the accountants I have represented, or advised how to do it themselves (with 100% success, so far) held accounting degrees and in some cases 'making the case' was not straightforward, because of syllabi content and electives and having to dig essential information out of clients a–word-at-a-time over many months. If I were consulted by a prospective client who held a vendor qualification in accounting, for which they needed 15 points to qualify, I would consult colleagues who practise in this area. You have to ’make the case’ one way or another. It might not be entirely appropriate to email 5000+ RMAs for advice, but it might be appropriate to email people who claim to have been awarded 15 points for an ABCD vendor qualification in accounting to disclose the relevant particulars. I shall chase it up the topic one of these days and file it in my database of useful information. I hope I have pointed you in the right direction. Many thanks for your replies – it certainly has opened my eyes a bit more as to how the process works. I will update here once I get a reply either way. Thanks to all that have replied - wishing you all a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Fingers crossed for a Visa in 2015! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budeman Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Ok well some good news for the New Year - we have been granted our Visas! No mention on the grant notification of the previous correspondence, just looks like the persistence paid off. Many thanks for all the replies on here, am happy to return the favour so if anyone is in the same situation and needs help I am happy to oblige - just send me a PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benthomas010 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Fantastic news. Congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Ok well some good news for the New Year - we have been granted our Visas! No mention on the grant notification of the previous correspondence, just looks like the persistence paid off. Many thanks for all the replies on here, am happy to return the favour so if anyone is in the same situation and needs help I am happy to oblige - just send me a PM. Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinkla Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I'm glad it worked for you. I am sorry the DIBP gave you hassle when you had already given them enough information to make a visa grant. Hopefully their understanding - and our understanding - of how professional qualifications work will have improved for the next time. Enjoy Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shan Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Budeman... i am also in the same position and about to apply... So my question is should i fill in as having bachelors(others) ? and how you resolved your problem in the end (was CO satisfied with your membership standing and transcript) ? Appreciate your response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blink Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Hi all, I'm currently in a similar situation. Applied for the visa in July and have provided ACCA membership with all other papers. I do have my bachelor and masters diplomas however 1. there are not in accounting at all 2. I don't have mark sheets for them translated and had no intentions to do so. Really appreciate budeman (or other member with the similar experience) for the details on how it was finally resolved. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angeline Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 i am also acca qualified and I am waiting to pass my ielts, all your comments are very helpful, I intend to do my own application as I cannot afford an urgent. I really need to know the outcome of your application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makybe Diva Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I didnt have my membership certificate so asked ACCA to provide letter of good standing which was sufficient. I also asked ACCA for copy of exam transcripts which showed each individual exam score. The skills assessment process should be very simple for ACCA members. I contacted an agent and they would charge £600 + Vat for effectively forwarding a few documents. Other occupations may be much more involved if they include work experience etc but this isn't needed for accountants skill assessment which makes it so much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blink Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Hi all, I've got my visa a month ago. I haven't attached my other bachelor/master documents, as a confirmation of education I've provided to DIBP the following: - ACCA membership certificate - CPA letter stating that they consider my ACCA as a bachelor degree - ACCA transcripts and mark sheet. Case Office didn't raise any questions at all. Thank you and good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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