englishinaustralia Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Hi all - some quick Qs as just getting started on the ENS 186 Temporary Transition Application - have a TRN from employer and just getting started, quick searches brought some up but not exactly what looking for. Any help greatly appreciated! 1) As usual place of residence have put my current Australian address (been here 3 years now) - is that right? When asks about previous countries of residence I put my last UK address 2) On skills assessment ticked no, have not had one (as temporary residence transition scheme and been for more than 2 years in listed occupation) 3) On Employment history if you try and put in current role it only lets you put today as end date (even though not finishing?) so do you just put your current job in with today as end date? 4) On Character Declarations it asks the below - now I do have a caution (2005, in the UK) but my understanding is this is not a conviction?! Any help from on this would be amazing! Has any applicant ever been convicted of a crime or offence in any country (including any conviction which is now removed from official records)? Finally this thing freaks me out but from what I can work out is just a caution, The position that this application relates to must be a position that the applicant has been nominated for by their prospective employer. The nomination details provided cannot be verified, please check that the correct details have been entered before continuing. If you proceed with lodging this application and incorrect nomination information is provided, this application may be Refused. I have a ten digit number / letters code in document: 'IMMI Acknowledgement of Application' and is listed as Application ID: then ten digits All a bit daunting but excited.... just want to make sure get it right! Thanks for all your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaggieMay24 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 1) Correct, put your Australian address, and your UK address is your previous address. 2) Correct, as skills assessment isn't needed for TRT 3) Correct. It doesn't let you put "Current" so I did the same thing and put the date I was lodging my application. 4) Not sure, but I believe it's imperative you declare it and then perhaps include a statement of what the offense was, the fact that you got a caution, and a statement that you know it was wrong and you've learned from it and never offended since. However I don't have any experience with the UK criminal system to know how cautions are considered so perhaps someone else can clarify. And finally, you're correct that they're simply warning you that if it turns out that nomination TRN isn't related to you then the visa may be refused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishinaustralia Posted August 25, 2014 Author Share Posted August 25, 2014 1) Correct, put your Australian address, and your UK address is your previous address.2) Correct, as skills assessment isn't needed for TRT 3) Correct. It doesn't let you put "Current" so I did the same thing and put the date I was lodging my application. 4) Not sure, but I believe it's imperative you declare it and then perhaps include a statement of what the offense was, the fact that you got a caution, and a statement that you know it was wrong and you've learned from it and never offended since. However I don't have any experience with the UK criminal system to know how cautions are considered so perhaps someone else can clarify. And finally, you're correct that they're simply warning you that if it turns out that nomination TRN isn't related to you then the visa may be refused. Thanks MM From what I can work out from searching is that a caution is not a conviction so don't think would declare there. The caution shows in my ACPO. Anyone with any information on police cautions / applying for 186 be greatly appreciated! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 When we did ours a few months ago there was a question that referred to ever being charged OR convicted so watch out for that one. Much better to declare everything that might seem relevant than risk it coming up on a police check. Something like that is highly unlikely to have any impact on your application so anyway but looking like you have hidden something is more likely to. If you are lodging soon then I would get the police check done now (ours was back from the UK in a week) then you can be sure and can lodge it with the application anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishinaustralia Posted August 26, 2014 Author Share Posted August 26, 2014 When we did ours a few months ago there was a question that referred to ever being charged OR convicted so watch out for that one. Much better to declare everything that might seem relevant than risk it coming up on a police check. Something like that is highly unlikely to have any impact on your application so anyway but looking like you have hidden something is more likely to.If you are lodging soon then I would get the police check done now (ours was back from the UK in a week) then you can be sure and can lodge it with the application anyway. Thanks Alaska - do have my ACPO done though already and the caution shows up (from 2005), will be deleted next year so frustrating! Leaning towards just saying that I do have a criminal conviction just to keep myself covered, might also try and ring IMMI / get some external advice on this. Cheers for responses, again anyone with first hand experience would love to hear from! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 A caution is a conviction. It is just a quick one, it means you admitted your guilt and your punishment was a caution. Why do you think it will drop off next year? I thought they stayed there forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishinaustralia Posted August 26, 2014 Author Share Posted August 26, 2014 It stays on your record forever but will not show up in an ACPO check next year (ten years for this particular one, others might take less). So it is always there but might not show up in certain checks. According to some sources in the UK a caution is not deemed as a conviction i.e. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_caution http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10127220/What-accepting-a-police-caution-means.html I believe a conviction means you were found guilty in a court (as opposed to the agreement as above), so you are still guilty and get a caution but you are not convicted (by a court). Other sources I have found are to the contrary - hence me asking! Just worried as don't want to mess up the application but not wanting to pay a migration agent! Cheers for help and again anyone with firsthand experience or migration agents please step forward and put me out of my misery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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