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Thank you for the links, that's helpful.

Thanks a lot, I'll check that out!

@rammygirl actually, just re-reading your post...so do you know of people who have left, then come back to do the interview and ceremony? That could be viable if so...

Thanks Cal. Yes I can see that will be difficult to say the least. I would be willing and able to come back to do those if possible. Who knows, maybe the situation would have improved by then and travel will be easier. I've also heard they are doing some ceremonies online now, though I don't hold out much hope of that as a possiblity for me. I haven't quite given up hope yet.

The fact that it is your opinion doesn't preclude it from being rude. If you're an immigration lawyer, then sure, tell it to me straight. However, I would personally refrain from making sweeping and negative pronouncements about other people's families' futures, unless I was quite sure what I was talking about.

Re: residence requirement? That is the same general residence requirement which is on the immi official site. But yes, thanks for the flag that agent pages need to be taken with a pinch of salt.

Thanks for the analysis. I haven't been rude, I've been appreciative and asked for clarification where I wasn't sure what people meant. I admit I was a bit curt to one person, and I apologise, but I didn't really appreciate her response, I thought it was rude. Thanks for policing my tone though. It's actually quite hard to read that in text as I'm sure you know. This response is pointed (at worst rude) though, to be clear.

Thanks for the info. I'm not convinced that's correct though. The page I linked specifically links to the general residence requirement, rather than this one you've shared. I suspect it may just be they've thrown the word 'special' in there and this is confusing things. It says at the top of the page you shared that this provision is for people who do not meet the general residence requirement, but require an exemption. I do meet the general residence requirement. Perhaps you're right though, I'll look into it more.

Thanks very much. That's what I fear really, I'm just hoping against hope that there's some way to do it because we really don't want to wait.

Right, thanks for that. Unless you've actually got anything helpful to add, based on concrete knowledge rather than negative speculation, I'm probably good for any more of your help. As I say, I'm eligible to apply for citizenship, and I also meet one of the exemptions listed re: having to be onshore for approval of application; the residence requirement. If anyone has any info on whether I've got those specifics right I'd be really grateful, but appreciate it's quite technical and I probably need to speak to a specialist.

Thanks, yes I did read that bit. My son being a citizen would possibly help with the ongoing ties criterion. That section from the official website is helpful. I think I need to get some clarity, from an agent, on where they draw the line regarding those 'most cases' for which approval can't be granted offshore.

That is precisely the page I linked in my OP. Can you elaborate on what you think I have misunderstood? As per my OP, that article states that those without a return date can apply if they meet the residence requirement, which it seems to me I do.

Thanks - I understand all that in principle. However as stated in my OP it seems it is in fact possible to apply and then leave, given that we meet all the criteria of eligibility. Are you aware of any specific rules that would prevent that out of interest? Thanks. As far as I can see once you're a citizen you can remain out of the country for an indefinite period.

The residency requirement is the one I linked in my OP: https://www.seekvisa.com.au/australian-citizenship-residency-requirement/ We do meet this, as I said.

Hi there, My wife (and small baby, who is an Aussie citizen by birth) are from the UK and considering returning very soon. My partner and I are both PRs. However, we would like to get our citizenship. We're looking into the possibility of lodging the citizenship application and then leaving, with a view to coming back one day. I realise this is an unusual circumstance, but has anyone had any experience of this, or know if it is possible? I've read around it a bit. This page from a migration agent suggests that people who don't have a return date but meet the residence requirement at the time of lodgement (which we would) should in theory be eligible for granting of citizenship while offshore. So from that it seems it should be possible, but I just wanted to check if anyone knows of any complications or barriers I might have missed? Many thanks!

Hi Ricks. I applied for the Australian passport first which has arrived and am now planning to send off for the British one.

Thank you!

Thanks all. Yes it seems a passport should prove his citizenship given we’re born in the UK. It’s confusing because the Hong Kongers you refer to actually are also ‘British Overseas Citizens’ rather than ‘nationals’, whatever that means, but can’t reside or work in the UK. This page was helpful as well: https://www.gov.uk/types-of-british-nationality

I have read the gov.uk extensively, it’s not really clear. I could probably just get him a passport, but as I say I’m not sure if that would give him full citizenship rights. As I say I’ve never really had to look into this. But it seems it’s a legally unclear area and I just want to be sure. From another site: All British nationals are eligible to be issued with UK passports. However, only British citizens have the automatic right to live and work in the UK. It’s also unclear to me what the difference between nationality and citizenship is despite having researched it a bit.

Also according to this he must be registered as a citizen to qualify for a passport: A child must be registered as a British citizen before they can apply for a British passport. They must also be registered before they can enter the country. Registering as a British Citizen for a child born abroad can be done at any time before the child turns 18. https://iasservices.org.uk/british-citizenship-for-child-born-abroad/

This whole thing is very confusing. It's a good question. The question of British nationality vs citizenship vs passport holders is complex and legally cloudy according to what I've read. I'm concerned he won't have access to full civic rights unless I properly register him. I'm conscious of the awful Windrush scandal and lots of people who are having to prove their citizenship even when they clearly qualify. I'd rather just get it out of the way.

Hi there! I've recently had a new baby. He was born here in Australia. My wife and I are looking into registering him as a British citizen. We are both British citizens by birth and permanent residents here. I've read the guidance on gov.uk and it is clear that he qualifies. What I can't find any information on is how specifically to apply. I have found this page here which is as close as it gets: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/form-ns-guidance It covers eligibility and what happens after application, and states that documents need to be provided to prove eligibility. It doesn't say where these should be sent or in what format though. I rang the consulate here but they won't pick up the phone. If anyone has done this before any help would be really appreciated!

hi there! I'm just applying for the TRT 186 and a little confused by this section of the form: Add It's unclear whether you are expected to provide every address that you lived at or just the last one. The form asks for an address and to and from dates. And there is an option to add another row. Can anyone offer advice? Thanks!

Hi there - my nomination has recently been submitted for TRT stream by my employer. My employer is new to the process, as am I obviously, and would like to manage the next stage of the application process in-house without an agent. I would be keen to take the next stage on myself, so that I can prioritise it and submit as quickly as possible. Can anyone advise the usual procedure in this circumstance? Particularly in regards of whether it would be more appropriate for the employer or the applicant themselves to submit and manage the application? Thanks!

Thanks!