Sandgroper

On 12/9/2017 at 04:30, bristolman said:

Thats a bit of a silly thing to say, we must remain diligent. 

'we must remain diligent' it's pretty obvious if something doesn't fit your rose tinted view of everything the UK has you will choose to ignore it, major changes are already starting to happen in the NHS. Maybe not in your lifetime but certainly your childrens the NHS will see massive wholesale changes in the way it is run and delivered. But she'll be right eh.

I blame global warming I know Mr trump will deny it though, an English winter is supposed to be frosty crisp and fresh it's a shame the English seasons just seem to merge now and people seem to be actually glad about it! I used to love frosty mornings as a kid.

You have to be honest with yourselves if the weather was that good in the UK you wouldn't feel the need to post pictures of a blue sky when it occurs.

I spent about 35 years in the UK and from memory the weather was pretty crappy the majority of the time not all the time though there were nice days I remember them well everyone put photos of them up on social media 

On 10/26/2017 at 19:20, simmo said:

Drizzle ?

I have read about it a lot on here. Now we have it.  Yes it's miserable... But rare

Rubbish lol drizzle is a British tradition!

12 minutes ago, simmo said:

rubbish

No it's not! English weather is pretty crap I was being diplomatic before 

On 10/23/2017 at 18:03, bristolman said:

This isn't aimed at anyone but a post did make me think about this a little. 

It's often said (mainly by expats) how awful the weather and how it rains literally all the time and it's always cold. Now of course there are those who will talk the country into the ground to make themselves fit in. We saw it with a friend who moved to Brisbane and one day at a BBQ at our place they were telling people all this stuff about the UK and I estimate 30% if it was in any way accurate. I digress slightly and as I said this isn't aimed at anyone it's just a comment got me thinking about this. The comment was basically that they are stuck inside for 7 months of the year, now that isn't even close to accurate for most people I would guess. My wife was talking about this the other day and said that really we have 2 months (January and February) that are pretty horrible because leading up to Christmas is usually pretty mild and then March starts to pick up again. We see everyone out doing what they do pretty much all year round, I'm not talking about essential stuff but out seemingly enjoying life. There really is no sign of people being locked in their houses for most of the year, just the opposite. 

Just imagine if someone said they lived in Brisbane and couldn't go outside for half the year because of the heat and humidity, they would be jumped on by everyone on the forum but if it is said about the UK it seems to be accepted as the truth. 

We have a convertible car that we drive a lot and 2 weekends ago was the first time we had to put the top up.

There just seems to be the need amongst the British to put their country down and some will seemingly agree with any criticism regardless of how outrageous or inaccurate. 

We live in a beautiful friendly country with to my mind an agreeable temperate climate, unless you live up in Scotland no one is locked away in their houses for months on end, get out and enjoy what we have available. ?

I love how in one breath you defend the weather in England to the hilt then totally dismiss the weather in Scotland as crap!

Whilst I agree the English weather isn't always cold and it's not always raining it is bloody dismal it's grey so often! The seasons are non existent when people defend the English seasons they are delusional try living Canada some parts of the US or Northern Europe where they have proper seasons the English seasons just merge together.

1 hour ago, Parley said:

It is telling that all the fatal terrorist incidents in Australia have been conducted by refugees or the children of refugees.

Shows the lie of this idea of be nice to them and they will be nice to you.

We took them in and they perpetrate violence on us in return.

Yes there is certainly something reassuring about Australia's stance on asylum seekers. 

Well it seems the bomber had been reported to security services by family members and other members of the Muslim community but was allowed to slip through the net wether he was considered low priority or just lack of resources available within the security services let him carry out the atrocity I'm sure some sort of inquiry will happen.........at least we have trident though that'll come in handy.

2 hours ago, newjez said:

You had two people's in conflict. The British army got involved to try and resolve the situation, and the UK mainland got attacked as a result. Where is the difference?

The difference is the PIRA's action were as a result of what they saw as inequality and wanting a untited Ireland.

Islamic fundamentalist's are following the teachings of a fictitious book and choosing to interpret them how ever they want to justify killing people who do not conform to there way of thinking are you starting to understand yet?

If you are naive enough to think this is happening purely as a result of Western governments actions in the Middle East you are gravely mistaken, 68 Syrian children didn't get blown to pieces as a result of Western policy wake up!

6 hours ago, newjez said:

All Muslims obviously. Let's have a Muslim free country. 

You seem to be the only person on the thread saying that, not very nice is it.

41 minutes ago, Pura Vida said:

The sentiment at the time was not entirely different. Of course they are not the same but they can be compared.

WOW you are so far off the mark the sentiment was completely different. The only similarity was they both attempted to use terrorism and fear as a means to achieve there individual aims which are poles apart.

22 minutes ago, newjez said:

All Muslims obviously. Let's have a Muslim free country. 

Tut tut not all muslims are terrorists haven't you had that drilled into you often enough......but all Islamic terrorists do come from within the muslim community though lose lose situation really.  

7 hours ago, newjez said:

A lot of people thought that about northern Ireland.

The two are totally different scenarios don't even entertain comparing them.

3 hours ago, newjez said:

But what will you do about it? Deport them all?

By all who do you refer to?

1 hour ago, Pura Vida said:

Just as I'm equally sure a few others are fed up with reading the same ignorant bile from numerous sources not only yours. But as you ask, views clearly stated and just what do you and your 'tribe' propose to do to' better' the situation. You say you are aware not all Muslims are terrorists, how noble it must be to be so enlightened. It certainly doesn't necessary come out in your  posts that show Islam phobic tendencies but perhaps you can find some fairness.

I don't harp on about the extreme Right. They are a major threat on many fronts. I have given examples and you may care to seek out US reports of where they find the serious long term threats.  Not forgetting to look whom they voted for President.

Ah true colours showing now 'bile' 'tribe' your an apologist weak minded and your 'tribe' will never reach a resolution because you aren't strong enough to confront and address issues. 

4 hours ago, Pura Vida said:

If you drop your prejudices just for one moment, and focus on the fact that it was not a special infidel killing bomb, but one that would kill without discrimination. Just as the bombs in schools and other places in countries like Pakistan or Turkey. No one can ever plan for a lone wolf attacker. Be that a misguided Islamist or a Right Wing nut job.

Having just read your post again I begin to realise just how much you really do not understand what is going on. The fact is, the bomb was absolutely a special infidel killing bomb in your words and it totally discriminated against people of all ages and races enjoying what everyone in a civilised democratic society should be able to do enjoy a music concert without the fear of getting peppered with nails!

2 hours ago, Pura Vida said:

So plucking a few unfortunates out of the desert and locking them up on a base in Cuba, for propaganda purposes was in your opinion a good idea? Were any actually terrorists? Or combatants?

Yes many were both and have gone back to being so.

1 hour ago, Pura Vida said:

If you drop your prejudices just for one moment, and focus on the fact that it was not a special infidel killing bomb, but one that would kill without discrimination. Just as the bombs in schools and other places in countries like Pakistan or Turkey. No one can ever plan for a lone wolf attacker. Be that a misguided Islamist or a Right Wing nut job.

I have no prejudices to drop, I speak about things as I see them, fact this bomb was an attempt by an Islamic fundamentalist to strike fear in those that do not align with there contorted views. 

You harp on about the extreme right? What extreme right a few EDL idiots who that try and jump on the band wagon after an event like this. Your an apologist scared to admit that this terrorism has it's roots in the Islamic faith. I know all Muslims are not terrorists I'm fed up of hearing it repeated but this stems from within there community the community that will never integrate fully in a Western society.......................keep dreaming if you think they will because you are wrong. 

24 minutes ago, newjez said:

Long time between 2005 and 2017. Ask yourself why?

And you think what? Nothing has been going on in the meantime? That they have suddenly woke up and thought 'you know what we've not hit the UK for a while lets go blow up a few infidels' ??

9 minutes ago, simmo said:

what is the "cooperative solution" then? 

This will never go away, there will never be any co operation, the divide is permanent, it a cultural divide here to stay. The root of all this terrorism (the Islamic faith) is not compatible with Western society. The Islamification of certain countries in Western Europe will continue over the next few decades and the problems will just get worse. 

12 minutes ago, robfromdublin said:

Of course there are thousands of Muslims who speak out about this.  You only have to take the trouble to google it for 5 seconds.

 

https://www.facebook.com/Muslims-Against-ISIS-1444672609121662/

 

You will probably find though these people protesting against radical Islam (and I don't know this for a fact in this instance) are from minority muslim groups like that poor chap In Glasgow where the normal run of the mill muslim travelled across the UK to stab on his shop doorstep just because he a was from a minority muslim group! WTF!!

11 minutes ago, Parley said:

I would like to know why this great Allah who is so great would want his followers to blow up children.

 

He didn't mind his prophet marrying and raping them so hardly going to bat an eyelid at a few getting blown up.

I should imagine the apologists will be on the UK media soon....it's just a minority blah blah blah 

Shocking cowardly act.