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Ah insults again, default response from you. At least you're consistent. I find you so sad, pitiful really, you only come on here to provoke, on subjects that have absolutely nothing to do with providing information to those looking to come to Oz. But if that's what turns you on. Wouldn't mind so much if you offered anything constructive in your threads, other than shouting down or insulting those who don't share your rather extreme views. Not sure why you think your views deserve so much airtime. Have a nice life

Thats a cracker! Mind you, if you consider China, Russia, North Korea, Ukraine, Belarus, Bahrain, etc....not part of the civilised world you may......just have a point. I just love how, in the hands of a Marxist, personal indignation goes to fact in a fraction of a sentence.

Being open minded means being willing to listen to those whose opinions differ from your own and making up your mind after that. I do.... Do you?

Here we go again. But I think I get where you're coming from. You use 'right wing' as an insult and no doubt would love to see dissent from your righteous views banned. You regard your opinion as fact and attack anyone who doesn't automatically agree with you. I already stated I have mixed views on abott, but at least I've met him and spoken to him. I base my views on that, I'm guessing you haven't and can only rely on your preferred newspapers to tell you your opinion. I find your comments about Scott Morrison odd, and rather childish. Have you met him? Or are you forming an opinion based on media coverage only? I hate to break it to you, but media outlets have agendas and bias. That's why, in order to be properly informed you should read both sides of the political debate and formulate an opinion that is your own. Don't worry, when the revolution comes you can ban or burn all of us moderates and open minded individuals.

I didn't complain about you having a go at those on the right. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of you insulting those who don't share your political views yet have a hissy when some one calls you left wing. Free speech knock yourself out, insult away. Abbot fan, mixed. I have had the opportunity to spend a bit of time chatting to him at a dinner in Adelaide I sponsored a couple of months ago. Nice bloke. Didn't like his speech, bit formulaic, but he was very friendly and down to earth. He let a couple of my staff take selfies with him. Had dinner just before the last election with Scott Morrison in a closed room (no press). I've got a lot of time for that guy. If he gets to be the next leader it could be vey interesting. Met a few pollies now since coming here four years ago. Julia G told a very un-PC joke about homosexuals in a lift... What I do like here is the access you get to pollies. If you have an opinion it doesn't take a lot to get in front of any of them and express it.

At a recent office after work 'hydration' session were were debating whether it would be possible to fit an 'outrage' button to a computer keyboard. It would save soooo much time. Read one line on a web page you disagree with and you can bash the outrage button which will immediately draft a 'horrified'...'disgusted'....'outraged' email and sent it to someone. I'm beginning to think some members on here have beaten me to it. I was going to get rich off that.

Odd isn't it, you can use words like 'uber conservative' but get all indignant over phrases like 'left wing' Having shared a student flat many years ago with a full on citizen smith devotee, I've never ceased to be amazed at how those on the left demand to be heard, and hector, smear and heckle anyone who doesn't agree with them. Yet when you ask a question or look to engage in debate they run away, or deflect. or, as I found out on here recently, they'll suddenly pull an accusation of racism, etc, out of nowhere and hide behind that. Anything to avoid a real discussion b

I'm not sure the 'vast majority' did think he was a loon. Not sure where you get this fact from. You seem to use the word 'conservative' (small c) as an insult when conservatism in life is fairly common. Many aspects of social change take time. Just because a small group of activists decide today on the new issue for change, doesn't mean that everyone either agrees or is ready a handbrake turn of change. Hectoring people because they aren't as socially aware as you is simply soapboxing and has no more relevance than my elderly neighbours opinion. If you are running a country you can knee jerk to every news article and a particularly vocal left wing view of life which seems very loud these days. Or, you can respond to the views of the wider public and find a path acceptable to a diverse electorate Much of the vitriol aimed at Abbot by the left appears to be because he didn't just roll over and accept their student politic preaching and agenda.

We were given as a leaving gift, a sheepskin rug (no flaming idea what possessed the mother in law). So we had it in checked baggage As I'd been through the entry process before and new what a pain in the bum it was I looked forward to this thing with dread after 24 hrs flying. As I pushed four kids, wife, three trolleys into the quarantine line a senior officer wandered up and 'asked' what have you got. Sheep skin *****dy rug..... He paused and said, 'see that door marked exit....mate, just run......' So sheepskin rugs no problem, neither are oak tables that have been machined and varnished, etc. we had plenty of timber furniture from my former life as a cabinet maker.

I know exactly where you're coming from. We arrived here more by default than intention. It was our fourth country since leaving the uk so we were never approaching this as a 'golden ticket' My wife and I are in a fortunate position that I have a great job, but I don't really feel that I belong here. We won't be leaving anytime soon as our kids enjoy it, schools are great and quality of life suits them. So while, deep down we would prefer to be back in Spain or France, that is for when the kids have left home. That knowledge does make for difficult periods sometimes when this place frustrates me, but they sort themselves out and you get on with it.

Squealing hysterically doesn't make the story go away. There's been little reporting of the 'asylum seeker arrivals' so focusing on a genuine disaster is hardly creating a diversion. As it has be acknowledged many times in this thread, genuine refugees exist and take risks to come here. But, many have also argued, that not everyone who arrives by boat is a genuine refugee, a point you have continued to deride. This ABC article blows a hole through that argument. People come here and pretend to be refugees....it happens, and the government is entitled to manage these arrivals in the way it feels appropriate, especially when backed by a majority electorate.

Nice diversion into the missing plane..... Now can we get back on topic, or is it still too painful for those who argue any one who arrived by boat is a genuine refuge Damn ABC.......why did they have to pick this story to report both sides of the story.....

Nearly a week of silence...........I can feel the pain of those who hate Tony. And it's the abc reporting......et tu brute.....

Practices in Sydney and Melbourne are pretty open to foreigners, almost all of the companies I work with from those cities have a high proportion of overseas architects. They are moving quickly into revit with some firms now working in revit almost exclusively on some projects. There is also a big emphasis on BIM now with full modeling right through to maintenance post construction, so familiarity with that would be a big selling point.

Volume is one issue, but not insurmountable. A quick assessment requires identity papers, etc. The vast majority of those many would consider to be economic migrants, destroy passports, etc to delay the process. Genuine refugees often have lost their passports but are keen to prove identity and assist the authorities in doing so.