Iron Chef Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 No need to "opt" for it any more - with personal imports these days, getting an independent valuation is the default course of action. Speak to the customs broker at this end for more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos fandango Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Speak to the customs broker at this end for more info. Are you meaning the Australian customs ????, in my case in Freemantle, Perth. I was wondering how you went about finding someone to value your vehicle when it arrived in OZ..... I thought I had read somewhere people getting valuations done for their vehicles whilst still in the UK in readyness for when it eventually arrives in OZ.....or am I wrong ??. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rjackson Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 thank you for your response - clearly a helpful and philanthropic guy - there should be more like you in the world. re your response, won't they just take the acquisition cost from the application form and be done with it or do they determine the customs value rather than me? thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest waltzing maltida Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I was just wondering if someone could advise. We are hoping to fly to perth in Feb next year. We were just about to change our car and then bring it with us in Feb. I have just seen information about owning your car for 12 months prior to leaving the country. We are going over on a PR visa can we bring our car even if we have not owned it for 12 months and just pay a higher tax etc or should we just forget about it. We currently own a Toyota avensis and they are not sold in OZ so not point in bringing it with us as this model is called something else (i think) over there! Thanks for any advice on this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Chef Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 Are you meaning the Australian customs ????, in my case in Freemantle, Perth.I was wondering how you went about finding someone to value your vehicle when it arrived in OZ..... I thought I had read somewhere people getting valuations done for their vehicles whilst still in the UK in readyness for when it eventually arrives in OZ.....or am I wrong ??. If they are, it's not worth the paper it's written on when it gets here. Most customs brokers will have access to accredited valuers here in Australia, just ask them when the time comes. thank you for your response - clearly a helpful and philanthropic guy - there should be more like you in the world. re your response, won't they just take the acquisition cost from the application form and be done with it or do they determine the customs value rather than me? thank you The valuer determines the customs value based on a whole range of factors, the amount on the original invoice when you purchased your car is not taken into consideration. I was just wondering if someone could advise. We are hoping to fly to perth in Feb next year. We were just about to change our car and then bring it with us in Feb. I have just seen information about owning your car for 12 months prior to leaving the country. We are going over on a PR visa can we bring our car even if we have not owned it for 12 months and just pay a higher tax etc or should we just forget about it. We currently own a Toyota avensis and they are not sold in OZ so not point in bringing it with us as this model is called something else (i think) over there! Thanks for any advice on this! The Avensis Verso is sold here, but not the Avensis wagon, which is just a normal Corolla wagon here (with different styling). At this stage, your options are the Avensis or nothing in terms of personal imports - there are certain other cars that can be imported under other schemes, but they're mostly sports cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blackwater Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Would you mind just giving your opinion if it is worth taking our family car. It is a 2007 Opel/Vauxhall Zafira. It is in excellent condition and very reliable. The thing is , after researching second hand cars I am now of the opinion that I won't get something as good when I get there in January. Also we are shipping early December have we missed the boat on all the paperwork. Thanks, D:biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest waltzing maltida Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Thanks a million for your quick reply! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteD Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 there are certain other cars that can be imported under other schemes, but they're mostly sports cars. Care to elaborate? What type of sports cars are we talking about? Vintage, replicas, modern day? Ownership period? thanks P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulswin Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Hi blackwater, we've got a 2010 zafira but because its gonna cost us around £6k in import taxes etc we've decided against it! Love my car too if we can get it any cheaper to ship it I would! Let me know what you come up with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Chef Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 Would you mind just giving your opinion if it is worth taking our family car. It is a 2007 Opel/Vauxhall Zafira. It is in excellent condition and very reliable. The thing is , after researching second hand cars I am now of the opinion that I won't get something as good when I get there in January. Also we are shipping early December have we missed the boat on all the paperwork. Thanks, D:biggrin: In terms of servicing, you won't have any problems because they share engines with a range of cars already sold here. When the time comes to sell, bear in mind that it will be a bit of an orphan here, as the Zafira was only sold in the first gen. Chances are it will impact on the resale value, so only bring it over if you love the car and are planning to hold on to it for a long time. Care to elaborate? What type of sports cars are we talking about? Vintage, replicas, modern day? Ownership period? thanks P Anything built prior to 1989 is ok, as a general rule. After 1989 some makes and models are eligible under the Specialist and Enthusiast Vehicle Scheme (SEVS). This site isn't the official govt site but it's far easier to navigate than the proper one - have a look in here for makes and models that are eligible: http://www.raws.com.au/SEVSRegC.asp Hi blackwater, we've got a 2010 zafira but because its gonna cost us around £6k in import taxes etc we've decided against it! Love my car too if we can get it any cheaper to ship it I would! Let me know what you come up with! That figure sounds very high! Feel free to contact me if you'd like a quote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porterpink Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Hello this is my first time in using the site,so I hope I'm doing this the correct way!My family and I are moving to Melbourne in Jan 2012 and was wondering if you would recommend bring our BMW X5 sports Auto estate 3.0 diesel 06 plate with us or not and how much it may be worth in Australia ? Thanks for your help in advance Zoey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Pom Queen Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Hello this is my first time in using the site,so I hope I'm doing this the correct way!My family and I are moving to Melbourne in Jan 2012 and was wondering if you would recommend bring our BMW X5 sports Auto estate 3.0 diesel 06 plate with us or not and how much it may be worth in Australia ? Thanks for your help in advance Zoey Hi Zoey, just wanted to say hi and welcome to the forum, iron chef will be the best person to chat with but he will probably be tucked up in bed now as it's midnight over here, but hopefully he will reply in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mijango Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Hi - I have been over here in Oz for about 4yrs now and have left behind my beloved half built kit car (a Dax Rush if anyone's interested) back in the motherland. I had owned the "car" for over 12mths while in the UK. Most of the running gear came from a ford sierra, and the chassis and pretty much everything else is supplied by Dax. I'm on a 457 but about to say good bye to the LAFHA gods and apply for PR. Does anyone know at what point the goods are viewed as a car, instead of a load of bits of metal?(which I expect would be a lot less punitive from a tax/duty perspective) All the bodywork, electrics, wheels, seats, interior, windscreen etc.. would come over as parts, whereas the chassis, enginge and transmission are all in place. There would also be parts such as the exhaust that I would buy from australia .. eye, eye mr tax man..:wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Chef Posted September 13, 2011 Author Share Posted September 13, 2011 Hello this is my first time in using the site,so I hope I'm doing this the correct way!My family and I are moving to Melbourne in Jan 2012 and was wondering if you would recommend bring our BMW X5 sports Auto estate 3.0 diesel 06 plate with us or not and how much it may be worth in Australia ? Thanks for your help in advance Zoey Hi Zoey, welcome to PIO :cute: If it's the second generation (I can't remember when they changed to the newer design), then I suspect it's probably worth your while importing it. The first gen X5s don't fetch much here any more. Have a look at http://www.redbook.com.au for the value of your car in Australia. Hi - I have been over here in Oz for about 4yrs now and have left behind my beloved half built kit car (a Dax Rush if anyone's interested) back in the motherland. I had owned the "car" for over 12mths while in the UK. Most of the running gear came from a ford sierra, and the chassis and pretty much everything else is supplied by Dax. I'm on a 457 but about to say good bye to the LAFHA gods and apply for PR. Does anyone know at what point the goods are viewed as a car, instead of a load of bits of metal?(which I expect would be a lot less punitive from a tax/duty perspective) All the bodywork, electrics, wheels, seats, interior, windscreen etc.. would come over as parts, whereas the chassis, enginge and transmission are all in place. There would also be parts such as the exhaust that I would buy from australia .. eye, eye mr tax man..:wink: I'm not an expert in parts, but I suspect the engine would have to be separated from the body to be classified as parts. I can double check if you're interested. Unfortunately it won't affect how much tax you pay - in fact sometimes the customs value of the parts valued separately makes it worth more than if you'd just brought the car in as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulswin Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Hi Ironchef I've emailed you with all our details, can you give us a quote what the roughish total would be for the import tax etc etc! Thanks!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Crosby Family Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Hi Ironchef, We are from ireland and cant see our 2007 Volvo c30 its in perfect condition but as it is 2ltr engine no one wants it here even do we droped the price, i will only own it a yr in March so if its not sold we are going to ship it next yr. do you think its a good idea and how much would it cost us on the other side, we were quoted around 1'800.00 euro for shipping but its the other side we are trying to work out . Thanks in Advance Muriel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteD Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Hi - I have been over here in Oz for about 4yrs now and have left behind my beloved half built kit car (a Dax Rush if anyone's interested) back in the motherland. I had owned the "car" for over 12mths while in the UK. Most of the running gear came from a ford sierra, and the chassis and pretty much everything else is supplied by Dax. I'm on a 457 but about to say good bye to the LAFHA gods and apply for PR. Does anyone know at what point the goods are viewed as a car, instead of a load of bits of metal?(which I expect would be a lot less punitive from a tax/duty perspective) All the bodywork, electrics, wheels, seats, interior, windscreen etc.. would come over as parts, whereas the chassis, enginge and transmission are all in place. There would also be parts such as the exhaust that I would buy from australia .. eye, eye mr tax man..:wink: Hi, I'm in a similar(ish) situation with a Dax Tojiero De-Dion (Cobra MkII). I want to ship it along with my daily car but it's a one car per person limit so I'm forced to break it down if I want to move both (not that I've finished it yet! but it does have the running gear in). If this is the only vehicle you're shipping, you may not have to. So far I've uncovered these snippets. http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page4371.asp#kits Importations of road vehicle kits including disassembled or partly disassembled road vehicles are subject to an assessment made by Infrastructure. If you wish to import a road vehicle kit, you must submit a full application to Infrastructure with all the relevant information. Infrastructure will assess the application and determine if a VIA is required. If a VIA is not required for your road vehicle kit, Infrastructure will advise you in writing. It is important to note that State and Territory registration authorities may not register a reassembled road vehicle or a road vehicle kit for use on public roads without a valid VIA. http://www.customs.gov.au/site/content2304.asp Precedent No. 15439800 relates to bodies for passenger motor vehicles for the purposes of subheading 8707.10.91. For these goods to be considered as parts they must be imported with at least the engine, transmission and all wheels and axles removed and these components must not be shipped on the same vessel; The duties on the specifics of unassembled/partially assembled kit cars and parts seems a bit grey on their webite, may be worth enquiring giving your personal circumstances. Hope this helps, please let me know anything else you found out .... P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mijango Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Cheers Steve. That is very helpful. So maybe it is better for my "car" to be considered a car!! I'll let you know how I go.. I've overcome the biggest hurdle though - getting the wife to give it the green light :biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Genelennon Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Hi, My car won't be a year old until April so I know I can't import it under the normal circumstances but I was wondering what the situation is if I bring it in on a temporary visa for up to 12 months? From what I can interpret from the customs website I could extend beyond the 12 months and also if I choose to remain in Australia I can apply to have the import declaration amended and keep the car there permanently? Under the Tourists and Temporary Residents section: http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page4371.asp Also, if possible can you give me a ballpark figure of the total cost involved in bringing my car into Perth? It's an Audi TT MY2011 Black Edition Coupe Manual 2.0T. Thanks, appreciate your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteD Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Hi Iron Chef, I see on your website .... The cost of replacement tyres (which must be done during compliance) is not generally included in a “landed and complied” quote, mainly because the cost depends what tyres you prefer. Why do I have to change tyres? What's the logic behind this one? Can I import my own set of brand new never used tyres and store them in the car during import? Also, apart from my daily use car, if my kit car has never been run, but has a set of rims & tyres which have never been used, never been mounted, do I need to replace them too? Thanks P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest birder Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Hi Iron Chef, I see on your website .... The cost of replacement tyres (which must be done during compliance) is not generally included in a “landed and complied” quote, mainly because the cost depends what tyres you prefer. Why do I have to change tyres? What's the logic behind this one? Can I import my own set of brand new never used tyres and store them in the car during import? Also, apart from my daily use car, if my kit car has never been run, but has a set of rims & tyres which have never been used, never been mounted, do I need to replace them too? Thanks P Ugh! I hope this is not true! We just bought new tyres for our vehicle this year, costing over $1100 NZ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gchapmanswfc Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Hi Iron Chef, I see on your website .... The cost of replacement tyres (which must be done during compliance) is not generally included in a “landed and complied” quote, mainly because the cost depends what tyres you prefer. Why do I have to change tyres? What's the logic behind this one? Can I import my own set of brand new never used tyres and store them in the car during import? Also, apart from my daily use car, if my kit car has never been run, but has a set of rims & tyres which have never been used, never been mounted, do I need to replace them too? Thanks P Nightmare if that is correct, my UK BMW X5 has just had (2 weeks ago) 4 brand new run flat tyres costing more than £1200! Previously Ironchef you advised my X5 was worth importing (2007 3.0d ) however this on top of all the taxes makes me wonder. If it is true I would not have had these tyres fitted but waited regards Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Chef Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 Sorry for the slow reply guys, I've been tied up with a few other business-related projects! Hi Ironchef, We are from ireland and cant see our 2007 Volvo c30 its in perfect condition but as it is 2ltr engine no one wants it here even do we droped the price, i will only own it a yr in March so if its not sold we are going to ship it next yr. do you think its a good idea and how much would it cost us on the other side, we were quoted around 1'800.00 euro for shipping but its the other side we are trying to work out . Thanks in Advance Muriel Hi Muriel, C30 values are here: http://redbook.com.au/used-cars/results.aspx?Ns=p_Make_String|0||p_ClassificationType_String|0||p_Family_String|0||p_Year_String|1||p_SequenceNum_Int32|0&N=2994+4294938350+4294843767+4294965584&TabId=1407342 Being a 2.0 litre your customs value will be lower, but in your case I don't think it would make too much difference when the time comes to sell. Without knowing the price you're trying to get in the UK, I suspect it would only be worth doing if you're planning to use it for a fair while here rather than bringing it over just to sell straight away. Hi, I'm in a similar(ish) situation with a Dax Tojiero De-Dion (Cobra MkII). I want to ship it along with my daily car but it's a one car per person limit so I'm forced to break it down if I want to move both (not that I've finished it yet! but it does have the running gear in). If this is the only vehicle you're shipping, you may not have to. So far I've uncovered these snippets. http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page4371.asp#kits'>http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page4371.asp#kits Importations of road vehicle kits including disassembled or partly disassembled road vehicles are subject to an assessment made by Infrastructure. If you wish to import a road vehicle kit, you must submit a full application to Infrastructure with all the relevant information. Infrastructure will assess the application and determine if a VIA is required. If a VIA is not required for your road vehicle kit, Infrastructure will advise you in writing. It is important to note that State and Territory registration authorities may not register a reassembled road vehicle or a road vehicle kit for use on public roads without a valid VIA. http://www.customs.gov.au/site/content2304.asp Precedent No. 15439800 relates to bodies for passenger motor vehicles for the purposes of subheading 8707.10.91. For these goods to be considered as parts they must be imported with at least the engine, transmission and all wheels and axles removed and these components must not be shipped on the same vessel; The duties on the specifics of unassembled/partially assembled kit cars and parts seems a bit grey on their webite, may be worth enquiring giving your personal circumstances. Hope this helps, please let me know anything else you found out .... P Great info Pete, you're spot on the money. In these situations, you submit the application and it's decided on a case-by-case basis. For kit cars of any kind, it is MUCH easier to bring the car in as parts, reassemble it in Australia, then apply for registration as an Individually Constructed Vehicle (ICV), same as any other kit cars are registered here. And yes engine/body/wheels and axles sent separately is generally the go. The problem with bringing in kit cars is, even if you meet all the criteria for a personal import, you may find it would need to be registered as an ICV anyway. Remember customs clearance and registration are two completely separate processes. Cheers Steve. That is very helpful. So maybe it is better for my "car" to be considered a car!! I'll let you know how I go.. I've overcome the biggest hurdle though - getting the wife to give it the green light :biggrin: See above! Hi, My car won't be a year old until April so I know I can't import it under the normal circumstances but I was wondering what the situation is if I bring it in on a temporary visa for up to 12 months? From what I can interpret from the customs website I could extend beyond the 12 months and also if I choose to remain in Australia I can apply to have the import declaration amended and keep the car there permanently? Under the Tourists and Temporary Residents section: http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page4371.asp Also, if possible can you give me a ballpark figure of the total cost involved in bringing my car into Perth? It's an Audi TT MY2011 Black Edition Coupe Manual 2.0T. Thanks, appreciate your help. We've discussed this situation earlier in the thread - whether someone could bring their car here on a carnet then transfer it to a personal import after 12 months of ownership. As I said before, I'm not going to recommend it in case the government disagrees with my interpretation of the regs, but I'd certainly be keen to hear if someone is successful as it would an interesting loophole. I suspect that, when the time came, you'd definitely be up for a bill for all the taxes and stamp duty that wasn't paid initially, and may even have to export the car from Australia and re-import it (another country nearby would be the obvious choice for this). Email me for quotes, as prices change fairly regularly. Hi Iron Chef, I see on your website .... The cost of replacement tyres (which must be done during compliance) is not generally included in a “landed and complied” quote, mainly because the cost depends what tyres you prefer. Why do I have to change tyres? What's the logic behind this one? Can I import my own set of brand new never used tyres and store them in the car during import? Also, apart from my daily use car, if my kit car has never been run, but has a set of rims & tyres which have never been used, never been mounted, do I need to replace them too? Thanks P Use the Iron Lady site in my signature, the Iron Chef site is for cars coming in from Japan under a different importing scheme. For personal imports, there is no need to change your tyres, unless they're under minimum tread depth obviously. As long as they're roadworthy, they are fine. Ugh! I hope this is not true! We just bought new tyres for our vehicle this year, costing over $1100 NZ! Nightmare if that is correct, my UK BMW X5 has just had (2 weeks ago) 4 brand new run flat tyres costing more than £1200! Previously Ironchef you advised my X5 was worth importing (2007 3.0d ) however this on top of all the taxes makes me wonder. If it is true I would not have had these tyres fitted but waited regards Glenn See above! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteD Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Use the Iron Lady site in my signature, the Iron Chef site is for cars coming in from Japan under a different importing scheme. Cheers for that, you might want to change the link at the bottom of your signature, it links to Iron Chef even though it says Iron Lady ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Chef Posted September 26, 2011 Author Share Posted September 26, 2011 Hahaha ok cheers - still trying to sort it out!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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